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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics 17:21 - Dec 5 with 1384 viewsDarth_Koont

But that’s the second time he’s dropped into a deep central position and looked good. Made us look good too as he certainly picked up the tempo.

Deserves a re-think of our formation perhaps as I could see a deep-lying pair of Dozzell and Judge working well too.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:23 - Dec 5 with 1319 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Out wide he doesn't get involved enough in games. Further advanced he doesn't have enough physical presence. He looked far better today than he has done for some time. Agree about him providing better tempo from there.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:24 - Dec 5 with 1290 viewsHealysBackPocket

Only if that re-think comes with a way to ensure we can play against 10 men every week.
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:26 - Dec 5 with 1256 viewsBloomBlue

I thought that was his best game (overall) for a long time. Still need to see him more consistent during the whole game rather than in bursts but I agree he's looking better in the deeper role
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:27 - Dec 5 with 1238 viewsDarth_Koont

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:24 - Dec 5 by HealysBackPocket

Only if that re-think comes with a way to ensure we can play against 10 men every week.


No, he did the same before. Got on the ball and turned forwards looking to move the ball quickly.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:30 - Dec 5 with 1195 viewslmfcblue

He hasn’t got the pace to play out wide
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:30 - Dec 5 with 1195 viewsgordon

My view is that Judge is alright as a decent ball-playing deep midfielder, but that he's competing against Dozzell, McGavin and Skuse for that role.

One of those should be alongside a dynamic, physical, up-and-down player with an eye for goal - Downes is the best, and Nolan should be his understudy.

If you get that sorted along with the back four, then you just have to think about how the attacking four players are organised - the key is that if we go with one up front, the three supporting players need to be able to carry the ball forward at pace to join up the space quickly to support him - so they must come from Bishop, Dobra, Edwards, El Mizouni & Bennetts.
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:33 - Dec 5 with 1155 viewsstiff_talking

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:30 - Dec 5 by gordon

My view is that Judge is alright as a decent ball-playing deep midfielder, but that he's competing against Dozzell, McGavin and Skuse for that role.

One of those should be alongside a dynamic, physical, up-and-down player with an eye for goal - Downes is the best, and Nolan should be his understudy.

If you get that sorted along with the back four, then you just have to think about how the attacking four players are organised - the key is that if we go with one up front, the three supporting players need to be able to carry the ball forward at pace to join up the space quickly to support him - so they must come from Bishop, Dobra, Edwards, El Mizouni & Bennetts.


His cross field pass to there center forward should have lost us the game.

Clutching at straws with his performance today. He was bang average
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:41 - Dec 5 with 1086 viewsclive_baker

He's not a winger, but I agree he was good today. Very good in that central role, as he was last weekend to be fair to him. He brings that older head to proceedings and he's definitely street wise. Neat and tidy in possession and covers so much ground. With the exception of 1 square ball that was very poor, he did a good job.

At the risk of sounding Alan Hansen I do think you need a bit of balance in terms of youth and experience in a side, and a team of Judge's will get us nowhere, but equally a team of Dobra's wont either. Judge is savvy. I'm not going to sit here and claim he swung us that game but what I love about an experienced vocal player in there like him is before the 2nd half kicked off you could see the ref almost apologising to Judge as we walked out. Within 5 minutes he's booking Mayor for time wasting. When do you ever see a player booked after 50 minutes for time wasting and I don't think any of us were shouting for a yellow for him. I'm not crediting that to Judge but you have to wonder to what extent refs at this level especially are influenced. 20 minutes later he's making a lazy tackle and sent off. The younger players don't carry that influence. The way I see it is games are won or lost based on many things that happen across a 90 minutes which are hard to quantify but you need balance in a side.

I don't think Judge starts if Dozzell, Downes & Bishop are fit but he's done well in his last 2 games after a real shocker vs. Hull.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:44 - Dec 5 with 1042 viewsgordon

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:33 - Dec 5 by stiff_talking

His cross field pass to there center forward should have lost us the game.

Clutching at straws with his performance today. He was bang average


I'm not really clutching at straws, I think he's awful and agree he did nothing of note today - I'm just agreeing that his position is as a deep central midfielder, and that Dozzell is way better in that role.
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:56 - Dec 5 with 938 viewsLankHenners

If Dozzell’s available then that position is his and Judge doesn’t play. If he has to play at all then it should be centrally like that but he wasn’t supposed to be playing there today. Thankfully when it’s 11v10 having someone drift miles out of position isn’t such an issue.

Played centrally against Hull of course and was a major part of us looking disjointed as his positional discipline is non-existent. Him and Ward seemed to be the two bigger beneficiaries of Plymouth going down to 10 today as they were suddenly doing a lot of cajoling and geeing-up.

I think people have gone in a bit OTT with criticism of him in the past but his role should now be the experienced head to come on to help secure a lead rather than start.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:04 - Dec 5 with 880 viewsDarth_Koont

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:56 - Dec 5 by LankHenners

If Dozzell’s available then that position is his and Judge doesn’t play. If he has to play at all then it should be centrally like that but he wasn’t supposed to be playing there today. Thankfully when it’s 11v10 having someone drift miles out of position isn’t such an issue.

Played centrally against Hull of course and was a major part of us looking disjointed as his positional discipline is non-existent. Him and Ward seemed to be the two bigger beneficiaries of Plymouth going down to 10 today as they were suddenly doing a lot of cajoling and geeing-up.

I think people have gone in a bit OTT with criticism of him in the past but his role should now be the experienced head to come on to help secure a lead rather than start.


Why not the two of them though? Neither are sitters like Skuse, the deep position is just where they would return to pick up the ball.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:05 - Dec 5 with 879 viewsbilllm

I'm with u on all of that post
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:09 - Dec 5 with 849 viewsLankHenners

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:04 - Dec 5 by Darth_Koont

Why not the two of them though? Neither are sitters like Skuse, the deep position is just where they would return to pick up the ball.


Don’t think we need them both in there. If he was actually capable of sticking to his positional brief then there might be some merit in it, particularly as we’re stretched with injuries. However we’ve seen too many times he just wanders around picking up the ball but not having much influence with it all the while making us look a bit ragged.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:28 - Dec 5 with 759 viewsgordon

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:04 - Dec 5 by Darth_Koont

Why not the two of them though? Neither are sitters like Skuse, the deep position is just where they would return to pick up the ball.


Definitely not - together they just aren't physical / strong enough - Judge has lost his pace, gets pushed off the ball too easily, can barely get off the ground to win a header, doesn't have the positional awareness to provide defensive cover. Dozzell is streets ahead, but also isn't great defensively, so we need a streetwise midfielder alongside.
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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:44 - Dec 5 with 684 viewstractordownsouth

I said in September that Judge should be considered as a CM, and that seems more appropriate now we have midfield injuries and Lankester/Dobra/Bennetts to choose from out wide, with Edwards and Sears to return.

We seriously got out of jail today but thought Judge did well, save for that pass that nearly let them score a second.

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I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 18:48 - Dec 5 with 648 viewsCheltenham_Blue

I’m one of Judge’s biggest critics on 17:33 - Dec 5 by stiff_talking

His cross field pass to there center forward should have lost us the game.

Clutching at straws with his performance today. He was bang average


McGavin, Lankester and Nolan all gave the ball away in dangerous positions today too.

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