| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... 03:19 - Jan 6 with 1037 views | monytowbray |
Between China and the USA, I don’t see how even the biggest corps using Chinese slavery and torture camps cam argue against the obvious path the CCP is taking.
Surely sh1tting on Hong Kong was never in the best long term interests? Or is it more of a d1ck waving contest to see how far they can push the boat out to no global repercussions? I’m not entirely sure of the motivations beyond total subservience of a population. |  |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:18 - Jan 6 with 878 views | Guthrum |
When you say 'going to be' and 'new', it sounds like you're implying it isn't already in progress. |  |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:20 - Jan 6 with 868 views | Swansea_Blue |
Sounds like we need the third Opium War so we can get HK back. Now we're 'free' of the EU there's nothing holding us back... |  |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:22 - Jan 6 with 859 views | monytowbray |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:18 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
When you say 'going to be' and 'new', it sounds like you're implying it isn't already in progress. |
In everything but name then.
I still wonder if historians will look back and debate if we can call the present WWIII? It certainly is already underway in an informational sense. | |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:41 - Jan 6 with 825 views | IpswichKnight |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:18 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
When you say 'going to be' and 'new', it sounds like you're implying it isn't already in progress. |
The 1st cyber world war is very hot! |  | | |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:44 - Jan 6 with 825 views | StokieBlue |
As Guthers said, it's already well underway. The Chinese have a lot of their current tech through espionage, the US is still ahead because it's spent trillions on defence over the last 40 years but China is catching up and has access to essentially free labour.
I see that 600,000 people have applied to resettle from HK to the UK under the government resettlement offer. It's not been covered in the press very heavily and I haven't seen a Brexiteer meltdown which is weird it's higher than 2 or 3 years annual EU immigration.
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:52 - Jan 6 with 794 views | Radlett_blue |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:44 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue |
As Guthers said, it's already well underway. The Chinese have a lot of their current tech through espionage, the US is still ahead because it's spent trillions on defence over the last 40 years but China is catching up and has access to essentially free labour.
I see that 600,000 people have applied to resettle from HK to the UK under the government resettlement offer. It's not been covered in the press very heavily and I haven't seen a Brexiteer meltdown which is weird it's higher than 2 or 3 years annual EU immigration.
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As soon as Britain handed over Hong Kong, it was inevitable that the "two systems" wouldn't co-exist for ever. I think the HK Chinese were foolish to fight a battle which they couldn't win, while the West was never going to take on a country as large & important as China.
China will supersede the US as the #1 global superpower in time & there's nothing the US can do about it. They won't like it but those at the top have realised that the Pacific is effectively the new Cold War & Europe is now a side-show for the US (hence the more powerful position of Putin's Russia. The US is also far less interested in the Middle East, especially since it became self sufficient in energy. The US is still #1 militarily, because of its superior technology & huge defense budget. |  |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 10:12 - Jan 6 with 748 views | WD19 |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:52 - Jan 6 by Radlett_blue |
As soon as Britain handed over Hong Kong, it was inevitable that the "two systems" wouldn't co-exist for ever. I think the HK Chinese were foolish to fight a battle which they couldn't win, while the West was never going to take on a country as large & important as China.
China will supersede the US as the #1 global superpower in time & there's nothing the US can do about it. They won't like it but those at the top have realised that the Pacific is effectively the new Cold War & Europe is now a side-show for the US (hence the more powerful position of Putin's Russia. The US is also far less interested in the Middle East, especially since it became self sufficient in energy. The US is still #1 militarily, because of its superior technology & huge defense budget. |
Isn't the general schtick that China has always been the worlds global superpower, with recent history being the exception rather than the rule!?
As I think Facters posted on here a year or so ago, the World War for water vs China & her African allies is going to be a doozy. |  | | |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 17:56 - Jan 6 with 616 views | Guthrum |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:22 - Jan 6 by monytowbray |
In everything but name then.
I still wonder if historians will look back and debate if we can call the present WWIII? It certainly is already underway in an informational sense. |
Technically, we're up to about 4 or 5. The Seven Years War (plus associated conflicts, e.g. the French and Indian War) of 1756-63 was at least as global in reach as World War One. | |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 18:25 - Jan 6 with 584 views | Radlett_blue |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 17:56 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
Technically, we're up to about 4 or 5. The Seven Years War (plus associated conflicts, e.g. the French and Indian War) of 1756-63 was at least as global in reach as World War One. |
WWI was largely a European war & was initially called "The Great War" until the far more horrendous - certainly in terms of civilian deaths - WWII came along 20 years later. | |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 18:26 - Jan 6 with 582 views | wkj |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 09:18 - Jan 6 by Guthrum |
When you say 'going to be' and 'new', it sounds like you're implying it isn't already in progress. |
Indeed, the cold war is already in full swing, the flash point to an actual war in the next decade seems much more worthy of discussion. |  |
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 19:07 - Jan 6 with 548 views | StokieBlue |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 18:26 - Jan 6 by wkj |
Indeed, the cold war is already in full swing, the flash point to an actual war in the next decade seems much more worthy of discussion. |
I wouldn't be surprised that at some point in the next 5 to 10 years some commander on the Spratly Islands (which they have seized) will take a pot shot at a western ship, probably US or Australian.
The Chinese have staked a claim to essentially the entire South China Sea even though it's totally against international law.
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| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 19:33 - Jan 6 with 513 views | Bangor31 |
| There’s almost certainly going to be a new Cold War in the next decade... on 19:07 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue |
I wouldn't be surprised that at some point in the next 5 to 10 years some commander on the Spratly Islands (which they have seized) will take a pot shot at a western ship, probably US or Australian.
The Chinese have staked a claim to essentially the entire South China Sea even though it's totally against international law.
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its such a difficult player for the west. do you get all puffy chest an get all Donald on them or do you do what we have been doing and just tut whenever they misbehave?
China and Russia are both annexing land illegally but if no one stands up to them they'll keep doing it. if you do stand up to them you could:
- get into a military war
- economic war
- cyber war | | | |
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