| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery 23:03 - Mar 1 with 2156 views | Lord_Lucan |
all day and I’m thinking - where are Insulate Britain when you need them? |  |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:08 - Mar 1 with 2108 views | Swansea_Blue |
I’m thinking a few runs with the US A-10s that used to buzz eastern Ipswich would soon sort it. Sitting ducks. Just needs someone with the balls to hit them. |  |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:23 - Mar 1 with 2052 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:08 - Mar 1 by Swansea_Blue |
I’m thinking a few runs with the US A-10s that used to buzz eastern Ipswich would soon sort it. Sitting ducks. Just needs someone with the balls to hit them. |
If you want to be serious for one moment it’s not about having the balls to hit them.
If we were to engage right now it would be an act of war and Putin is quite capable of sending the nukes. Until Russian forces put a boot over NATO territory we simply cannot intervene- for the sake of the world.
If it escalates then yes we have to step in but let me tell you, war has a habit of quickly escalating and I don’t like the look of it to be honest.
We are all looking on with concern but also in a bit of denial, Putin is a bit bonkers and there is a possibility we might force each other’s hand.
Don’t really want to think about it. | |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:33 - Mar 1 with 2005 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:23 - Mar 1 by Lord_Lucan |
If you want to be serious for one moment it’s not about having the balls to hit them.
If we were to engage right now it would be an act of war and Putin is quite capable of sending the nukes. Until Russian forces put a boot over NATO territory we simply cannot intervene- for the sake of the world.
If it escalates then yes we have to step in but let me tell you, war has a habit of quickly escalating and I don’t like the look of it to be honest.
We are all looking on with concern but also in a bit of denial, Putin is a bit bonkers and there is a possibility we might force each other’s hand.
Don’t really want to think about it. |
Obviously doesn’t have to be openly Western Allies/NATO does it (and can’t be). They ARE sitting ducks though. Surely some covert assistance can be offered to get Ukraine forces close enough with all the anti-tank missiles European countries have been sending them… [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 23:39]
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:37 - Mar 1 with 1973 views | ZXBlue |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:33 - Mar 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Obviously doesn’t have to be openly Western Allies/NATO does it (and can’t be). They ARE sitting ducks though. Surely some covert assistance can be offered to get Ukraine forces close enough with all the anti-tank missiles European countries have been sending them… [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 23:39]
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With that long line on narrow country roads, some select strikes would cause havoc with timings and logistics in terms of actually getting the convoy through. |  | | |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:59 - Mar 1 with 1903 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:33 - Mar 1 by Swansea_Blue |
Obviously doesn’t have to be openly Western Allies/NATO does it (and can’t be). They ARE sitting ducks though. Surely some covert assistance can be offered to get Ukraine forces close enough with all the anti-tank missiles European countries have been sending them… [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 23:39]
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I agree. They are sitting ducks. Any proper force could wipe the lot out - just like in the Gulf.
Like most things though it’s political, but this time it’s a capital P. | |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:02 - Mar 2 with 1886 views | ZXBlue |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:59 - Mar 1 by Lord_Lucan |
I agree. They are sitting ducks. Any proper force could wipe the lot out - just like in the Gulf.
Like most things though it’s political, but this time it’s a capital P. |
No idea what sort of air power ukraine has left, or how superior russian air support is. | | | |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:23 - Mar 2 with 1853 views | jeera |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:02 - Mar 2 by ZXBlue |
No idea what sort of air power ukraine has left, or how superior russian air support is. |
I was wondering the same.
I was just reading this as it goes:
https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-mi
It suggests that Russia seem to be holding back somewhat for now on its air support, having done a fair bit of damage it intended to in the early part of the conflict.
Although it also suggests some Ukrainian aircraft are still flying low-level sorties, so yes it would seem the obvious answer to broadside the tank column.
No doubt there are reasons we know little of. It's hard to get the full picture on the snippets we rely on isn't it.
Edit: I should have added the piece also mentions it's likely Russia's aircraft missile stocks will have been depleted significantly by their intervention in Syria which might explain their reluctance to go in too heavy too soon [?]
Perhaps Ukraine are suffering from a lack of suitable anti-tank ammo too. [Post edited 2 Mar 2022 0:35]
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:45 - Mar 2 with 1804 views | Kievthegreat |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:23 - Mar 2 by jeera |
I was wondering the same.
I was just reading this as it goes:
https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-mi
It suggests that Russia seem to be holding back somewhat for now on its air support, having done a fair bit of damage it intended to in the early part of the conflict.
Although it also suggests some Ukrainian aircraft are still flying low-level sorties, so yes it would seem the obvious answer to broadside the tank column.
No doubt there are reasons we know little of. It's hard to get the full picture on the snippets we rely on isn't it.
Edit: I should have added the piece also mentions it's likely Russia's aircraft missile stocks will have been depleted significantly by their intervention in Syria which might explain their reluctance to go in too heavy too soon [?]
Perhaps Ukraine are suffering from a lack of suitable anti-tank ammo too. [Post edited 2 Mar 2022 0:35]
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I think the issue Ukraine may have is that it's anti-tank weapons are handheld. Infantry attacking an armoured column across flat open terrain with very little cover is risky. Especially a column of the size Russia have sent.
In theory they should have plenty of equipment, but it remains to be seen if it's all in the right places. No good having 1,000 NLAWs if none of them are where the tanks are, and Ukraine are defending multiple fronts. |  | | |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:47 - Mar 2 with 1799 views | ZXBlue |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:45 - Mar 2 by Kievthegreat |
I think the issue Ukraine may have is that it's anti-tank weapons are handheld. Infantry attacking an armoured column across flat open terrain with very little cover is risky. Especially a column of the size Russia have sent.
In theory they should have plenty of equipment, but it remains to be seen if it's all in the right places. No good having 1,000 NLAWs if none of them are where the tanks are, and Ukraine are defending multiple fronts. |
Lots of trucks. Blow up 12 of them, and the rest of the column has to go around.... | | | |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:26 - Mar 2 with 1715 views | Kievthegreat |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:47 - Mar 2 by ZXBlue |
Lots of trucks. Blow up 12 of them, and the rest of the column has to go around.... |
Still need to get close enough to do that. If they could, they surely would. | | | |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:49 - Mar 2 with 1703 views | Guthrum |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 00:02 - Mar 2 by ZXBlue |
No idea what sort of air power ukraine has left, or how superior russian air support is. |
Ukraine has some air assets left, as far as is possible to tell. Including drones capable of firing missiles. That column is likely to have a fair amount of anti-aircraft protection.
However, it's also a very extended line, which can also be attacked by ground forces with artillery, armour and anti-tank missiles. And if moving on a single road, blocked by defensive positions and blown bridges.
Tho I get the impression it's not so much an advancing column as a massive traffic jam. It's been two days and they haven't sorted it out yet, let alone moved forwards. Going to take a long time for the right people to get to the right places and deploy. [Post edited 2 Mar 2022 1:55]
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:54 - Mar 2 with 1696 views | Guthrum |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:26 - Mar 2 by Kievthegreat |
Still need to get close enough to do that. If they could, they surely would. |
Javelins have an effective range of a couple of miles, the lighter missiles the British and other supplied about half a mile. But it's very difficult to spot a couple of blokes sat in a bush that far away and a row of vehicles on a road is a big target. | |
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| [Redacted] on 05:55 - Mar 2 with 1555 views | victorywilhappen |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:54 - Mar 2 by Guthrum |
Javelins have an effective range of a couple of miles, the lighter missiles the British and other supplied about half a mile. But it's very difficult to spot a couple of blokes sat in a bush that far away and a row of vehicles on a road is a big target. |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 06:55 - Mar 2 with 1458 views | solomon |
Resistance forces need time to organise and get used to and find the tactics that work best, resistance and guerrilla groups will eventually find ways of inflicting casualties on the Russian forces much as we’ve seen in Recent conflicts possibly use of IED’s and the like. This war will run for some time and I expect this still to be in the news, albeit in not such blanket coverage, 12 months from now. |  | | |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 07:13 - Mar 2 with 1426 views | Ely_Blue |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 01:49 - Mar 2 by Guthrum |
Ukraine has some air assets left, as far as is possible to tell. Including drones capable of firing missiles. That column is likely to have a fair amount of anti-aircraft protection.
However, it's also a very extended line, which can also be attacked by ground forces with artillery, armour and anti-tank missiles. And if moving on a single road, blocked by defensive positions and blown bridges.
Tho I get the impression it's not so much an advancing column as a massive traffic jam. It's been two days and they haven't sorted it out yet, let alone moved forwards. Going to take a long time for the right people to get to the right places and deploy. [Post edited 2 Mar 2022 1:55]
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What they need to take out in the convoy is the fuel tankers, not only will it cause bigger explosions it will also start to cripple the advance of the convoy once they start to run out of fuel (something which has also so far been hampering the progress to Kyiv |  |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 10:05 - Mar 2 with 1083 views | Guthrum |
Blowing bridges is a tricky business. Right up to the moment the enemy siezes them, they are an asset to defenders, vital for moving men and supplies.
Too late and you've lost the chance, especially if it doesn't completely work (c.f. Remagen). Too early and the bridge still has people on it (civilian or military - c.f. Leipzig 1813), plus rearguards - often drawn from amongst your best troops - are marooned on the wrong side to be killed or captured.
Which is why you often get a last man or group staying behind in the face of near-certain death to fire the charges. Such as this: https://www.newsweek.com/heroic-ukrainian-soldier-blows-bridge-himself-halt-russ | |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 11:57 - Mar 2 with 921 views | J2BLUE |
| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 23:23 - Mar 1 by Lord_Lucan |
If you want to be serious for one moment it’s not about having the balls to hit them.
If we were to engage right now it would be an act of war and Putin is quite capable of sending the nukes. Until Russian forces put a boot over NATO territory we simply cannot intervene- for the sake of the world.
If it escalates then yes we have to step in but let me tell you, war has a habit of quickly escalating and I don’t like the look of it to be honest.
We are all looking on with concern but also in a bit of denial, Putin is a bit bonkers and there is a possibility we might force each other’s hand.
Don’t really want to think about it. |
Build a DIY Altoids survival tin.
That will stop the nuclear missiles. |  |
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| I’ve been thinking about this 40km Russian convoy of tanks and heavy artillery on 12:14 - Mar 2 with 891 views | DinDjarin |
Its not a convoy of 40 miles bumper to bumper, its lots of units in smaller convoys spread over 40 miles so may only be a few hundred vehicles.
Not like the media to exaggerate now is it. |  | | |
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