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Looks like Mariupol is about to finally fall to the Russians and their attack in the east is underway. I think the Russians will end up with the Eastern region and a corridor all the way to Crimea. I wonder if that was their objective originally? But I think it's what they will end up with getting.
Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:02 - Apr 19 by ElderGrizzly
So they'll end up with cities they have totally destroyed and will need to rebuild from scratch?
Not the most efficient of strategies?
My take - the corridor is exactly what they wanted.
However - they didn't expect Ukraine to put up the kind of resistance they have but Russia couldn't lose face and stop and therefore have had to go all out and level the cities to get the end result.
Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:06 - Apr 19 by homer_123
My take - the corridor is exactly what they wanted.
However - they didn't expect Ukraine to put up the kind of resistance they have but Russia couldn't lose face and stop and therefore have had to go all out and level the cities to get the end result.
As you say, this is about political face-saving now.
5 million Ukrainians have left the region and they have a 'pathway' to what was probably their goal in the first place
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Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:25 - Apr 19 with 771 views
They wanted and will always want Kyiv. Even if they do just consolidate the eastern regions, that won't be the end if it long term.
I suspect in about October there will be a settlement allowing what is left of Ukraine independence in return for neutrality from NATO. They'll then go back to disrupting the Ukrainian government structure from within with the intension of getting a Russian sympathiser in power.
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Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:26 - Apr 19 with 756 views
Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:25 - Apr 19 by Mookamoo
They wanted and will always want Kyiv. Even if they do just consolidate the eastern regions, that won't be the end if it long term.
I suspect in about October there will be a settlement allowing what is left of Ukraine independence in return for neutrality from NATO. They'll then go back to disrupting the Ukrainian government structure from within with the intension of getting a Russian sympathiser in power.
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I agree. Zelensky will not be 'allowed' to remain.
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Ukraine - The final outcome on 12:30 - Apr 19 with 596 views
Ukraine - The final outcome on 10:25 - Apr 19 by Mookamoo
They wanted and will always want Kyiv. Even if they do just consolidate the eastern regions, that won't be the end if it long term.
I suspect in about October there will be a settlement allowing what is left of Ukraine independence in return for neutrality from NATO. They'll then go back to disrupting the Ukrainian government structure from within with the intension of getting a Russian sympathiser in power.
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I was wondering the other day - if they join the EU but not NATO how would that affect the EU's reaction to Russian interference in Ukrainian affairs? Wouldn't it drawn the EU into direct military confrontation with Russia? OK it;s not NATO, but it's still pretty serious.
Ukraine - The final outcome on 12:30 - Apr 19 by Vic
I was wondering the other day - if they join the EU but not NATO how would that affect the EU's reaction to Russian interference in Ukrainian affairs? Wouldn't it drawn the EU into direct military confrontation with Russia? OK it;s not NATO, but it's still pretty serious.
Or am I missing something?
'Keir Giles, a senior consulting fellow at London-based think-tank Chatham House, said President Putin’s aim of “reversing history and going back to Russia’s status as it was over 100 years ago also directly affects other neighbours”.
“This means Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Finland,” he said.
The EU has a mutual defence clause for any member nation that is “victim of armed aggression on its territory”.
This means if Russia were to invade Finland, it could find itself at war with all 27 EU member states, which could then engage Russian forces directly.'
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