Unrest in China 12:04 - Nov 27 with 1322 views | TractorWood | Many on here have commented on how the facade of control in China is very brittle. Amazing to theorise that the world cup is helping to draw attention to the bizarre COVID rules that remain in China to this day. Clearly a nation totally exhausted from autocratic rule. I suspect this is the beginning of a something very important. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63771109 [Post edited 27 Nov 2022 12:04]
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Unrest in China on 12:09 - Nov 27 with 1273 views | Nthsuffolkblue | It is a massive country and ultimately rule of law depends on the support of sufficient of the populace. However, this happened more than 33 years ago now and little as changed off the back of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre I am sure things will change sometime but not certain a single protest can be seen to be the turning point. |  |
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Unrest in China on 17:52 - Nov 27 with 1128 views | RIPbobby | This does look like an uprising is forthcoming. Wow. How can you control 1 billion+ people. |  | |  |
Unrest in China on 17:58 - Nov 27 with 1105 views | nodge_blue | I doubt it. China showed what happens in Hong Kong. It's hard for any public uprising when the police and military are loyal to the ruling powers. |  |
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Unrest in China on 18:02 - Nov 27 with 1094 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Unrest in China on 17:58 - Nov 27 by nodge_blue | I doubt it. China showed what happens in Hong Kong. It's hard for any public uprising when the police and military are loyal to the ruling powers. |
There must be a tipping point, though. The fall of the iron curtain was a dramatic time. But, as I say above, China has ridden out protests before with no major change. |  |
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Unrest in China on 18:17 - Nov 27 with 1054 views | MJallday | I was talking to someone yesterday about this - and we were discussing how another lockdown would work in the U.K. Short answer, it wouldn’t |  |
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Unrest in China on 18:24 - Nov 27 with 1028 views | Trequartista | Lockdowns are autocratic? Hmmm. |  |
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Unrest in China on 18:33 - Nov 27 with 987 views | TractorWood |
Unrest in China on 18:24 - Nov 27 by Trequartista | Lockdowns are autocratic? Hmmm. |
I didn't say that. I said they were seemingly exhausted from autocratic rule.....are you rebutting autocratic rule in China? [Post edited 27 Nov 2022 18:40]
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Unrest in China on 18:39 - Nov 27 with 970 views | TractorWood |
Unrest in China on 17:58 - Nov 27 by nodge_blue | I doubt it. China showed what happens in Hong Kong. It's hard for any public uprising when the police and military are loyal to the ruling powers. |
Some elements of that article imply the police's support is not as absolute as it appears. Again the facade of order and control is brittle. 200,000 people have fled HK. For what it's worth, that 2 part documentary by the BBC focusing on the Polytechnic University siege in November 2019 is incredibly harrowing viewing. Highly recommended. [Post edited 27 Nov 2022 18:52]
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Unrest in China on 18:46 - Nov 27 with 936 views | Trequartista |
Unrest in China on 18:33 - Nov 27 by TractorWood | I didn't say that. I said they were seemingly exhausted from autocratic rule.....are you rebutting autocratic rule in China? [Post edited 27 Nov 2022 18:40]
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The opposite. I'm pondering if lockdowns are autocratic. |  |
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Unrest in China on 19:02 - Nov 27 with 861 views | Bent_double |
Unrest in China on 18:39 - Nov 27 by TractorWood | Some elements of that article imply the police's support is not as absolute as it appears. Again the facade of order and control is brittle. 200,000 people have fled HK. For what it's worth, that 2 part documentary by the BBC focusing on the Polytechnic University siege in November 2019 is incredibly harrowing viewing. Highly recommended. [Post edited 27 Nov 2022 18:52]
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Watched that the other day. Brutal. Fair play to the students for fighting back, but with hindsight, perhaps blockading yourself in the University wasn't the best idea. |  |
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