| Now, are we going too far here? 14:36 - May 5 with 1454 views | homer_123 |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65496426
So, a kids TV show has been edited :
"Some said they did not want their children to see adults being dissatisfied with the shape of their bodies, and only using exercise to lose weight."
Surely, you want the opposite of this don't you? If I, as a parent, recognise that I'm overweight and look to do something about that (including exercise or looking to eat more healthily), from a health and wellbeing perspective, why would that be an issue for kids?
This seems nuts to me. [Post edited 5 May 2023 14:38]
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:37 - May 5 with 1414 views | GeoffSentence |
I think so too, especially as the real health crisis, the elephant in the room if you like, is obesity, yet it seems to be the thing to encourage it. |  |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:41 - May 5 with 1368 views | J2BLUE |
Absolute madness. The world is going insane. |  |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:41 - May 5 with 1369 views | DanTheMan |
I can understand where they are coming from, but it does seem odd not to promote exercise to children. |  |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:43 - May 5 with 1357 views | unbelievablue |
Depends really. Parents saying nasty stuff about their kids weight doesn't seem like it would fit well on a kids TV show. If it was loving, supportive, caring etc. then sure, leave it in.
EDIT - read the article. Madness. [Post edited 5 May 2023 14:44]
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:44 - May 5 with 1345 views | homer_123 |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:43 - May 5 by unbelievablue |
Depends really. Parents saying nasty stuff about their kids weight doesn't seem like it would fit well on a kids TV show. If it was loving, supportive, caring etc. then sure, leave it in.
EDIT - read the article. Madness. [Post edited 5 May 2023 14:44]
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Seen your edit, yep, that isn't the case here, just madness isn't it. | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:45 - May 5 with 1342 views | BlueBadger |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:37 - May 5 by GeoffSentence |
I think so too, especially as the real health crisis, the elephant in the room if you like, is obesity, yet it seems to be the thing to encourage it. |
Interestingly enough, irresponsible and thoughtless media and family/peer messaging in earlier life can drive and/or fuel eating disorders in later later life.
https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/eating-disorders-weight-shaming-a |  |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:48 - May 5 with 1319 views | homer_123 |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:41 - May 5 by DanTheMan |
I can understand where they are coming from, but it does seem odd not to promote exercise to children. |
I'm not sure I can.
Parent recognises that they are overweight and need to maybe trim up and eat better etc. That shows self-awareness, self-respect, a good amount of looking after ones own body and by doing so improve ones mental wellbeing etc.
I cannot fathom why these would not be good things for your child to see in you, as a parent? | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:49 - May 5 with 1315 views | homer_123 |
No doubt Badge, absolutely right.
I am struggling to see the issue with this particular episode. Maybe it's me. | |
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| In 50 years time.... on 14:50 - May 5 with 1313 views | Bloots |
....everyone will be dropping dead from heart disease, whilst not knowing what sex they are.
Can't wait.
Actually I'll probably be long gone.
Hooray. |  |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:58 - May 5 with 1272 views | BlueBadger |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:49 - May 5 by homer_123 |
No doubt Badge, absolutely right.
I am struggling to see the issue with this particular episode. Maybe it's me. |
Again, the messaging.
'The decision was welcomed by Dr Laura Renshaw-Vuillier, a senior lecturer at Bournemouth University and an expert on eating disorders and mental illness.
"I think it's extremely important that we have discussions around healthy eating and exercise, but more from a health perspective rather than from a fat-shaming perspective," she told BBC News.
"I did not see that episode, but I like how Bandit is so playful with his kids, and I think that if they can promote a way of doing exercise for fun rather than to lose weight it's great." | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:02 - May 5 with 1258 views | homer_123 |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 14:58 - May 5 by BlueBadger |
Again, the messaging.
'The decision was welcomed by Dr Laura Renshaw-Vuillier, a senior lecturer at Bournemouth University and an expert on eating disorders and mental illness.
"I think it's extremely important that we have discussions around healthy eating and exercise, but more from a health perspective rather than from a fat-shaming perspective," she told BBC News.
"I did not see that episode, but I like how Bandit is so playful with his kids, and I think that if they can promote a way of doing exercise for fun rather than to lose weight it's great." |
The give away, though, is surely this: "I did not see that episode..."
That aside, I wonder what aspect of this episode is 'fat-shaming'? | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:04 - May 5 with 1250 views | BlueBadger |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:02 - May 5 by homer_123 |
The give away, though, is surely this: "I did not see that episode..."
That aside, I wonder what aspect of this episode is 'fat-shaming'? |
To be honest, I don't really know either. But I doubt much has been lost and there's no harm to be gone, tbh. | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:16 - May 5 with 1195 views | DanTheMan |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:02 - May 5 by homer_123 |
The give away, though, is surely this: "I did not see that episode..."
That aside, I wonder what aspect of this episode is 'fat-shaming'? |
I think their point would be basically you can promote healthy eating and exercise without the episode having a character in a show point out they are doing so because one of them is fat. Something like that.
The danger, as outlined by Badger, isn't so much that you end up with loads of people who are fat but lots of people who have very unhealthy relationships with food from the other direction.
My wife is currently an assistant psychologist who works in an eating disorder clinic. The waiting list is very, very long and the people they see tend to be on the younger side and even then only the most extreme as they have barely any funding. The pandemic has not helped either.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/03/nhs-treating-record-number-of-young-people-fo
There is definitely a conversation to be had around this area about where you draw the line of course. [Post edited 5 May 2023 15:18]
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:26 - May 5 with 1145 views | homer_123 |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:16 - May 5 by DanTheMan |
I think their point would be basically you can promote healthy eating and exercise without the episode having a character in a show point out they are doing so because one of them is fat. Something like that.
The danger, as outlined by Badger, isn't so much that you end up with loads of people who are fat but lots of people who have very unhealthy relationships with food from the other direction.
My wife is currently an assistant psychologist who works in an eating disorder clinic. The waiting list is very, very long and the people they see tend to be on the younger side and even then only the most extreme as they have barely any funding. The pandemic has not helped either.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/2022/03/nhs-treating-record-number-of-young-people-fo
There is definitely a conversation to be had around this area about where you draw the line of course. [Post edited 5 May 2023 15:18]
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Yep, first para makes sense Dan.
Though I'd refer back to my reply to you below....not sure what is wrong with self-awareness (i.e. the parent hasn't been fat shamed, they recognised they may need to do some things to be healthier) and why would this be a 'bad' thing for their kids to see? | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:29 - May 5 with 1132 views | DanTheMan |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:26 - May 5 by homer_123 |
Yep, first para makes sense Dan.
Though I'd refer back to my reply to you below....not sure what is wrong with self-awareness (i.e. the parent hasn't been fat shamed, they recognised they may need to do some things to be healthier) and why would this be a 'bad' thing for their kids to see? |
The simple answer is, I don't know. Not my field of specialty, I only know a little because of what my wife does and also some exposure to people with eating disorders.
My wife probably would probably know whether this sort of thing works or actually makes the problem worse but she's in the office at the moment. I'm sure there is research out there that would show one way or the other. | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:31 - May 5 with 1117 views | homer_123 |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:29 - May 5 by DanTheMan |
The simple answer is, I don't know. Not my field of specialty, I only know a little because of what my wife does and also some exposure to people with eating disorders.
My wife probably would probably know whether this sort of thing works or actually makes the problem worse but she's in the office at the moment. I'm sure there is research out there that would show one way or the other. |
Fair does Dan. | |
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:33 - May 5 with 1080 views | unbelievablue |
| Now, are we going too far here? on 15:26 - May 5 by homer_123 |
Yep, first para makes sense Dan.
Though I'd refer back to my reply to you below....not sure what is wrong with self-awareness (i.e. the parent hasn't been fat shamed, they recognised they may need to do some things to be healthier) and why would this be a 'bad' thing for their kids to see? |
I guess the argument would go something like this:
- Ideally kids should exercise for enjoyment as much as anything else
- Adults therefore shouldn't link exercise to weight loss either primarily or exclusively
Edit - in principle I actually do subscribe to the above but I don't think this cartoon was anywhere near the line. [Post edited 5 May 2023 15:35]
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| Now, are we going too far here? on 18:25 - May 5 with 915 views | Bluespeed225 |
And Doughnut is the reason why we can't see The Double Deckers on TV! |  | | |
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