| Jacobs 11:07 - May 27 with 2136 views | ipswichtillidie |
Does the Jacobs story imply that under the Cook era the signing of Edwards was made by Ashton without perhaps the agreement of the manager. Obviously on reflection it’s worked well on this occasion. Also perhaps maybe more evidence that Cook wasn’t GC appointment and in this case they were doing what they thought best for the club rather than what the manager at the time wanted. Both player and Cook seemed disappointed. [Post edited 27 May 2023 11:10]
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| Jacobs on 11:42 - May 27 with 2034 views | BigCommon |
Can't believe Cook was behind every single signing. Think there were 22 signings in that window.. Harper?, Fraser? Piggot?....Bit of a weird transitional period, imo.
But, the "demolition" was needed, for the greater good. |  | | |
| Jacobs on 12:24 - May 27 with 1912 views | WD19 |
It was very obvious that Cook was a dead man walking as soon as GC came in. It’s why he nearly walked immediately on principle and I am strongly of the view it is why he didn’t try too hard to build a ‘long term’ back room team.
That’s not to say he couldn’t have made it work for a little longer, but he was never their man and had had some negative experience with Ashton previously. |  | | |
| Jacobs on 12:40 - May 27 with 1870 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Jacobs on 12:24 - May 27 by WD19 |
It was very obvious that Cook was a dead man walking as soon as GC came in. It’s why he nearly walked immediately on principle and I am strongly of the view it is why he didn’t try too hard to build a ‘long term’ back room team.
That’s not to say he couldn’t have made it work for a little longer, but he was never their man and had had some negative experience with Ashton previously. |
I disagree, he was given opportunity albeit short. Results were not there and it was clear because he wasn’t their man the axe was probably going to come quickly. Had he have gone on a run of results win after win then we won’t know will we. My point being it appears the Jacobs signing “may” have been against his wishes. Which I thought was worth discussion. | |
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| Jacobs on 13:24 - May 27 with 1787 views | Churchman |
How recruitment was done then and is done now has been explained by Ashton and others. There’s no evidence to doubt what they’ve said, unless people still hold to the Bristol City Satan view of MA two years on. If you do, there’s 68 pages of bile on OTIB still ongoing to back you.
The appointment of Cook, timing, approval: the rationale will never be known. I don’t think the situation with Jacobs says anything other than his and Cowley’s view. The later has proven to be pretty dysfunctional. There’s two sides to every story.
Overall though, the process with Jacobs appears to have been handled badly and reflects for me the lack of infrastructure at the club and Cook’s chuck mud at wall approach, the appointment of Ashton 1 June so lack of time. Perhaps if a more structured approach than bomb squad the lot had been adopted, this sort of thing wouldn’t have happened. I can’t imagine it happening now. |  | | |
| Jacobs on 13:36 - May 27 with 1747 views | PhilTWTD |
| Jacobs on 11:42 - May 27 by BigCommon |
Can't believe Cook was behind every single signing. Think there were 22 signings in that window.. Harper?, Fraser? Piggot?....Bit of a weird transitional period, imo.
But, the "demolition" was needed, for the greater good. |
Indeed, was a bit of committee type situation. Manager, CEO, chairman, coaches all threw their suggestions into the ring regarding who to sign based on their contacts, knowledge of the individuals etc. I'm sure it would have been MA or MOL who were behind the Edwards signing. From the club's overall approach, signing him in his early 20s was more in line with the aim than Jacobs in his late 20s. |  | | |
| Jacobs on 13:40 - May 27 with 1729 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Jacobs on 13:36 - May 27 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, was a bit of committee type situation. Manager, CEO, chairman, coaches all threw their suggestions into the ring regarding who to sign based on their contacts, knowledge of the individuals etc. I'm sure it would have been MA or MOL who were behind the Edwards signing. From the club's overall approach, signing him in his early 20s was more in line with the aim than Jacobs in his late 20s. |
Do you think because Cook wasn't their 'man' it seems on a few transfers he didn't get the final say.
You can't imagine that happening to McKenna, indeed Ashton has said as much that his decision is final now. |  | | |
| Jacobs on 14:31 - May 27 with 1628 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Jacobs on 13:40 - May 27 by burnbudgiesburn |
Do you think because Cook wasn't their 'man' it seems on a few transfers he didn't get the final say.
You can't imagine that happening to McKenna, indeed Ashton has said as much that his decision is final now. |
This is what I believe to be the case hence the OP. I think they had a clear plan how they wanted to generally approach recruitment. Someone come up and I reckon a combination of MOL and MA trumped Cook and moved for Edwards at the last moment. Would this be the case under KMc if push came to shove.. I hope not… | |
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| Jacobs on 15:10 - May 27 with 1549 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Jacobs on 13:40 - May 27 by burnbudgiesburn |
Do you think because Cook wasn't their 'man' it seems on a few transfers he didn't get the final say.
You can't imagine that happening to McKenna, indeed Ashton has said as much that his decision is final now. |
McKenna has a final say. I think Cook also had a final say. I'm sure I recall at some point after Cook speaking a little more on it. I think just a case that a really quality younger player became available and it made more sense.
Cook was more active with actually identifying players just because recruitment set up wasn't in place. | |
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| Jacobs on 17:08 - May 27 with 1384 views | PioneerBlue |
To say it was against Paul Cook’s wishes is looking for something that’s either not there or that will likely not come into the open. In all transfers there will be much debate, particularly in a CEO structure, more so now with a recruitment team. It’s clear that summer was a rush to destruct and reconstruct at pace. Whilst over the first two years, Edwardo has not ripped up trees he still has potential and a future value. Jacobs is now knocking on over 30. Even if MA has the final say or veto, he’s made a decision based on longer term value as the situation changes and Edwards became available late in the Jacobs deal process. | |
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