| Clear and obvious error… 12:23 - Aug 20 with 1474 views | pointofblue |
If it’s clear and obvious why does it take so long to make a decision? |  |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:26 - Aug 20 with 1436 views | redrickstuhaart |
No idea. But there is a clear movement towards it. But if its not immediately clear, its not a clear and obvious error. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 12:26]
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:26 - Aug 20 with 1433 views | gainsboroughblue |
Overly dramatic. FFS. |  |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:28 - Aug 20 with 1394 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:26 - Aug 20 by gainsboroughblue |
Overly dramatic. FFS. |
Never good when the ref seems to love it so much.... | | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:32 - Aug 20 with 1356 views | pointofblue |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:28 - Aug 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Never good when the ref seems to love it so much.... |
Think the officials across the men and women’s game like being the centre of attention. | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:36 - Aug 20 with 1309 views | Chrisd |
Yes, Walsh clearly moves her arm towards the ball. Thought that was an easy decision to make. | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:38 - Aug 20 with 1293 views | pointofblue |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:36 - Aug 20 by Chrisd |
Yes, Walsh clearly moves her arm towards the ball. Thought that was an easy decision to make. |
Which is fair enough. I have no idea why it took five minutes to conclude it should be a penalty. Clear and obvious errors should surely be rectified quickly. | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:40 - Aug 20 with 1284 views | Chrisd |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:38 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
Which is fair enough. I have no idea why it took five minutes to conclude it should be a penalty. Clear and obvious errors should surely be rectified quickly. |
100% agree. | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:41 - Aug 20 with 1281 views | strikalite |
Not sure where she was meant to put her hand/arm, like you could see she was saying, the ref was 50/50 too as with the length of time viewing it.. |  | | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:45 - Aug 20 with 1263 views | Chrisd |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:41 - Aug 20 by strikalite |
Not sure where she was meant to put her hand/arm, like you could see she was saying, the ref was 50/50 too as with the length of time viewing it.. |
Walsh definitely moves her arm towards the ball as the Spanish player touches it past her. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 15:30]
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| Clear and obvious error… on 12:48 - Aug 20 with 1243 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:45 - Aug 20 by Chrisd |
Walsh definitely moves her arm towards the ball as the Spanish player touches it past her. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 15:30]
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Indeed. Patent second yellow there though. Ref is certainly not our friend. | | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:50 - Aug 20 with 1224 views | strikalite |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:45 - Aug 20 by Chrisd |
Walsh definitely moves her arm towards the ball as the Spanish player touches it past her. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 15:30]
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But that's really slowed down which makes it look more obvious, I think it's very harsh, it's at such speed it's like a balance of her body movement... | | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:51 - Aug 20 with 1213 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:50 - Aug 20 by strikalite |
But that's really slowed down which makes it look more obvious, I think it's very harsh, it's at such speed it's like a balance of her body movement... |
Whilst I am moaning at refs, I am sick and tired of the failure to deal with time wasting. Adding time does not properly deal with it. | | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:53 - Aug 20 with 1202 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:51 - Aug 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Whilst I am moaning at refs, I am sick and tired of the failure to deal with time wasting. Adding time does not properly deal with it. |
And then she's given a handball, from a ricochet 2 yards away against bronze. Really poor. | | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 13:11 - Aug 20 with 1130 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Clear and obvious error… on 12:45 - Aug 20 by Chrisd |
Walsh definitely moves her arm towards the ball as the Spanish player touches it past her. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 15:30]
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She has put her hand across the player in order to foul her but insufficient to actually foul. I can see why it has been given but it feels a tad harsh. As said above a clear and obvious error should be quicker to correct. It seems as if the referee took some convincing. In the end it didn't matter anyway. |  |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 14:25 - Aug 20 with 1030 views | monty_radio |
Not only did it take forever, but the process seemed to include the ref chatting it through with the VAR people. Perhaps they'll eventually let them share a pint while they analyse how the game has gone up to that point.
As is regularly said on here "it's all about opinions" - but surely it's not for the officials to chew it over at such length thereby blowing any credible cover that it's about a "clear and obvious error". | |
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| Clear and obvious error… on 15:32 - Aug 20 with 935 views | Chrisd |
| Clear and obvious error… on 13:11 - Aug 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
She has put her hand across the player in order to foul her but insufficient to actually foul. I can see why it has been given but it feels a tad harsh. As said above a clear and obvious error should be quicker to correct. It seems as if the referee took some convincing. In the end it didn't matter anyway. |
Opinions of course, but I watched the replay once and thought it was a pen. It really didn’t need a huge debate about it. [Post edited 20 Aug 2023 17:44]
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| Clear and obvious error… on 16:25 - Aug 20 with 872 views | Wickets |
Yup quite clear from the first replay it was a Penalty but i suppose with the world looking on you would make super sure . |  | | |
| Clear and obvious error… on 16:45 - Aug 20 with 844 views | Radlett_blue |
| Clear and obvious error… on 14:25 - Aug 20 by monty_radio |
Not only did it take forever, but the process seemed to include the ref chatting it through with the VAR people. Perhaps they'll eventually let them share a pint while they analyse how the game has gone up to that point.
As is regularly said on here "it's all about opinions" - but surely it's not for the officials to chew it over at such length thereby blowing any credible cover that it's about a "clear and obvious error". |
Once I'd seen the replay, it looked a clear pen under the current laws & I don't know why the VAR official didn't simply tell the ref to change her decision. Maybe they were reluctant to make a VAR call that was likely to decide a World Cup Final (although, as it happened, it didn't). Ref bottled a few decisions e.g. not sending off a Spaniard by giving her a clear second yellow for kicking the ball away; also not booking Bronze for her endless delaying of the penalty kick, but maybe refs are all reluctant to make big decisions in big games. |  |
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