| Scotloland..... 21:36 - Oct 12 with 2463 views | Bloots |
....what a goal for Spain.
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| Scotloland..... on 21:48 - Oct 12 with 2421 views | Reus30 |
I can already hear the bleating in the office tomorrow...
We were robbed, perfectly good free kick, best goal of all time taken away from us.
No, it was a foul mate. Soz |  | | |
| Scotloland..... on 06:56 - Oct 13 with 2236 views | ibbleobble |
| Scotloland..... on 21:48 - Oct 12 by Reus30 |
I can already hear the bleating in the office tomorrow...
We were robbed, perfectly good free kick, best goal of all time taken away from us.
No, it was a foul mate. Soz |
A foul??? Hahahaha! 😂😂😂
The keeper was brushed, hardly fouled or restrained. His eyes aren’t even on the flight of the ball and he had no intention of coming for it. It makes no odds as they deserved to lose but that’s yet another VAR joke. The sooner they get rid of this farce the better. |  | | |
| Scotloland..... on 07:29 - Oct 13 with 2208 views | Reus30 |
| Scotloland..... on 06:56 - Oct 13 by ibbleobble |
A foul??? Hahahaha! 😂😂😂
The keeper was brushed, hardly fouled or restrained. His eyes aren’t even on the flight of the ball and he had no intention of coming for it. It makes no odds as they deserved to lose but that’s yet another VAR joke. The sooner they get rid of this farce the better. |
Yes fella, a foul. Hendry didn't play the ball and essentially nudged the keeper so he couldn't try to save it regardless of how strong the nudge was, out of the path of the ball.
Not really a farce in this instance, they got it right in the end.
VAR is still a WIP but here to stay but they got this one right for a change. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 08:14 - Oct 13 with 2165 views | braveblue |
| Scotloland..... on 07:29 - Oct 13 by Reus30 |
Yes fella, a foul. Hendry didn't play the ball and essentially nudged the keeper so he couldn't try to save it regardless of how strong the nudge was, out of the path of the ball.
Not really a farce in this instance, they got it right in the end.
VAR is still a WIP but here to stay but they got this one right for a change. |
They now say it was offside and no foul. Work that one out. Shambles. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 10:55 - Oct 13 with 2063 views | Stewart27 |
The strangest thing about it all was grown men getting upset about the result. Scotland have had lots of humiliating results over the years so why cry about losing to Spain? I know they are not the team they once were but it would have still been a hell of a shock if Scotland would have won. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 11:08 - Oct 13 with 2044 views | BlueStreak |
| Scotloland..... on 08:14 - Oct 13 by braveblue |
They now say it was offside and no foul. Work that one out. Shambles. |
I appreciate the use of VAR is a joke, but it WAS offside, quite clearly no? |  | | |
| Scotloland..... on 11:12 - Oct 13 with 2035 views | Simonds92 |
| Scotloland..... on 07:29 - Oct 13 by Reus30 |
Yes fella, a foul. Hendry didn't play the ball and essentially nudged the keeper so he couldn't try to save it regardless of how strong the nudge was, out of the path of the ball.
Not really a farce in this instance, they got it right in the end.
VAR is still a WIP but here to stay but they got this one right for a change. |
It is never a foul, suggesting it was is pretty ridiculous especially when you see the level of contact a defender is able to make on an attacking player at set pieces.
However..... its definitely offside and he is interfering with play so it has correctly been ruled out. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 11:27 - Oct 13 with 2019 views | Reus30 |
| Scotloland..... on 11:12 - Oct 13 by Simonds92 |
It is never a foul, suggesting it was is pretty ridiculous especially when you see the level of contact a defender is able to make on an attacking player at set pieces.
However..... its definitely offside and he is interfering with play so it has correctly been ruled out. |
It's a foul, it's not a high ball coming in for a corner, it's a shot coming across the keeper. He is being prevented from saving the ball (not that he is going to), contact is minimal but it's still a bump.
Put it this way, if that is Vaz getting bumped, you bet your soul I am screaming foul.
Yes it's offside but it's also a foul. | | | |
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| Scotloland..... on 11:32 - Oct 13 with 2006 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Scotloland..... on 11:27 - Oct 13 by Reus30 |
It's a foul, it's not a high ball coming in for a corner, it's a shot coming across the keeper. He is being prevented from saving the ball (not that he is going to), contact is minimal but it's still a bump.
Put it this way, if that is Vaz getting bumped, you bet your soul I am screaming foul.
Yes it's offside but it's also a foul. |
Never a foul in a million years, but as pointed out elsewhere he was offside
Personally I think some of the interfering with play by distracting etc is overblown and this being a case where it was a bit soft, but based on the rules in place then yes it’s offside
VAR is still rubbish [Post edited 13 Oct 2023 11:32]
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| Scotloland..... on 11:45 - Oct 13 with 1969 views | BlueStreak |
| Scotloland..... on 11:32 - Oct 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Never a foul in a million years, but as pointed out elsewhere he was offside
Personally I think some of the interfering with play by distracting etc is overblown and this being a case where it was a bit soft, but based on the rules in place then yes it’s offside
VAR is still rubbish [Post edited 13 Oct 2023 11:32]
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VAR isn't rubbish, the operators are. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 11:53 - Oct 13 with 1947 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Scotloland..... on 11:45 - Oct 13 by BlueStreak |
VAR isn't rubbish, the operators are. |
Couldn’t disagree more, the whole concept is rubbish. Referees being imperfect is part of the fun and having to wait to see if goals are confirmed is a complete farce (and still would be even if the obvious issues with the review process are sorted, it can’t be instant for this type of decision)
FWIW I didn’t like goal line tech either for the same reasons but happy to say I have changed my mind on that, it’s instant and factual and so adds to the game rather than detracting from it [Post edited 13 Oct 2023 11:54]
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| Scotloland..... on 11:58 - Oct 13 with 1925 views | ibbleobble |
| Scotloland..... on 11:32 - Oct 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Never a foul in a million years, but as pointed out elsewhere he was offside
Personally I think some of the interfering with play by distracting etc is overblown and this being a case where it was a bit soft, but based on the rules in place then yes it’s offside
VAR is still rubbish [Post edited 13 Oct 2023 11:32]
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Agree. The keeper isn’t saving that or getting close it so arguing whether it’s a foul (it wasn’t) or it was offside (it was but he wasn’t affecting the goalkeeper) is trivial so the idea that anything is interfering or impeding him is a moot point. The keeper fell back in the net when it went in, he didn’t complain as he knew he’d been beaten all ends up.
“GOAL”. Brilliant free kick. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 13:21 - Oct 13 with 1863 views | BlueStreak |
| Scotloland..... on 11:53 - Oct 13 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Couldn’t disagree more, the whole concept is rubbish. Referees being imperfect is part of the fun and having to wait to see if goals are confirmed is a complete farce (and still would be even if the obvious issues with the review process are sorted, it can’t be instant for this type of decision)
FWIW I didn’t like goal line tech either for the same reasons but happy to say I have changed my mind on that, it’s instant and factual and so adds to the game rather than detracting from it [Post edited 13 Oct 2023 11:54]
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It is a good conversation to have. I may be wrong, but you are a cricket fan right? If so, does the same opinion apply for DRS etc? Genuine question not meaning to be funny or anything. | | | |
| Scotloland..... on 17:19 - Oct 13 with 1790 views | noggin |
| Scotloland..... on 10:55 - Oct 13 by Stewart27 |
The strangest thing about it all was grown men getting upset about the result. Scotland have had lots of humiliating results over the years so why cry about losing to Spain? I know they are not the team they once were but it would have still been a hell of a shock if Scotland would have won. |
Yeah, man up, like England fans when they lose. |  |
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| Scotloland..... on 09:02 - Oct 14 with 1675 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Scotloland..... on 13:21 - Oct 13 by BlueStreak |
It is a good conversation to have. I may be wrong, but you are a cricket fan right? If so, does the same opinion apply for DRS etc? Genuine question not meaning to be funny or anything. |
Sorry never replied to this
It’s a fair question and no, I don’t mind it in cricket as the game is naturally a lot slower anyway so doesn’t really hold things up. Also think the way it’s used is much better - teams choosing when to review actually adds a tactical element and then decisions basically follow a set criteria avoids the way a lot of VAR decisions in football still end up being the referee/VAR officials interpretation on things
The second point probably comes back to your ‘way it’s used’ argument however I think even with those resolved the flow point is key. I guess if football could get to a place where decisions are real time and basically factual (eg. technology that immediately identifies an offside and allows the referee to be notified to blow his whistle) then great but difficult to see how it gets to that point given the complexities involved | |
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| Scotloland..... on 09:17 - Oct 14 with 1652 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Scotloland..... on 09:02 - Oct 14 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Sorry never replied to this
It’s a fair question and no, I don’t mind it in cricket as the game is naturally a lot slower anyway so doesn’t really hold things up. Also think the way it’s used is much better - teams choosing when to review actually adds a tactical element and then decisions basically follow a set criteria avoids the way a lot of VAR decisions in football still end up being the referee/VAR officials interpretation on things
The second point probably comes back to your ‘way it’s used’ argument however I think even with those resolved the flow point is key. I guess if football could get to a place where decisions are real time and basically factual (eg. technology that immediately identifies an offside and allows the referee to be notified to blow his whistle) then great but difficult to see how it gets to that point given the complexities involved |
Would the X number of challenges per team rule work in football, as it does in cricket and tennis? VAR only brought into play on request of a team.
If you had a finite list of things that could be challenged by the captain eg
- Concede a goal where you believe was an infringement (eg offside, foul in buildup etc)
- have goal disallowed for infringement you believe is erroneous
- concede penalty you believe is erroneous
- are not awarded penalty that you believe is erroneous
- challenge by opponent not given as red card
- red card received by your team
Not sure it would work in reality, but might stop VAR checks for tiny possible infringements where it may have brushed the wrist of a player which nobody noticed in real time. |  | | |
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