| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it 18:31 - May 31 with 1444 views | redrickstuhaart |
I cloned my system SSD to a larger SSD. I missed the fact that you have to alter the size of partitions whilst cloning and cant do it afterwards. So I now have a bigger drive, but limited to the same very tight partitions of the original drive.
I can correct that by doing it again and getting the cloning software to adjust parittion sizes in the process. However, I cannot re-clone without resetting the new disk which is now full of system partitions and "dynamic". None of the disk management tools will let me delete those partitions- presumably because they are system files (albeit duplicate and unecessary ones). Any thoughts other than buying another new SSD and starting again....? |  | | |  |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:36 - May 31 with 1400 views | Mercian |
You can format the drive to return it to factory condition. Then redo the process. |  | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:37 - May 31 with 1393 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:36 - May 31 by Mercian |
You can format the drive to return it to factory condition. Then redo the process. |
Already formatted it. It doesnt remove the system partitions! | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:49 - May 31 with 1369 views | NthQldITFC |
Why can't you adjust partition sizes afterwards? I'm a Linux user, but GParted will do that without problems on an SSD. Surely you can do the same through a Wind*ws GUI or command line? |  |
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| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:49 - May 31 with 1368 views | Mercian |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:37 - May 31 by redrickstuhaart |
Already formatted it. It doesnt remove the system partitions! |
I am lost then. I am a nerd who is not particularly tech savvy. Try this website, they are very good. It's where I go if I have issues.
Go to the forums and they have sections on anything you need.
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk [Post edited 31 May 2024 18:50]
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| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:55 - May 31 with 1353 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:49 - May 31 by Mercian |
I am lost then. I am a nerd who is not particularly tech savvy. Try this website, they are very good. It's where I go if I have issues.
Go to the forums and they have sections on anything you need.
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk [Post edited 31 May 2024 18:50]
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Thanks for your efforts | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 19:06 - May 31 with 1330 views | NthQldITFC |
This might be worth a look.
https://www.lifewire.com/gparted-review-2624945
Download and create a boot disk / USB stick and do your partition management outside of the operating system. | |
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| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 19:08 - May 31 with 1325 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 19:06 - May 31 by NthQldITFC |
This might be worth a look.
https://www.lifewire.com/gparted-review-2624945
Download and create a boot disk / USB stick and do your partition management outside of the operating system. |
Ill have a look- thanks. Although my system is already running from a different drive. | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 21:47 - May 31 with 1230 views | factual_blue |
This is the sort of sniping, divisive post Phil wants to put a stop to. |  |
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| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 22:21 - May 31 with 1192 views | NthQldITFC |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 21:47 - May 31 by factual_blue |
This is the sort of sniping, divisive post Phil wants to put a stop to. |
You don't know what you're talking about. | |
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| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 22:38 - May 31 with 1170 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 22:21 - May 31 by NthQldITFC |
You don't know what you're talking about. |
Clearly have him on Ignore 😀 |  | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 22:57 - May 31 with 1145 views | WicklowBlue |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 22:38 - May 31 by Eireannach_gorm |
Clearly have him on Ignore 😀 |
Who said that? |  | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:09 - May 31 with 1125 views | WicklowBlue |
As a person who has worked in Tech Support for far to long than I can remember....can you give more details?
You cloned a SSD drive to a larger SSD drive, which kept the original partition size.
What filesystem did you clone, ntfs or ext etc? What did you use to clone the SSD?
Detail is important, depending on the filesystem, partitions can be extended as previously posted. From the word dynamic I'm thinking this is a Windows partition which I spent many many years having fun with before. Primary Secondary partitions etc. One thing is certain you most definitely do not need to buy another SSD.
Can you post images of the partition structure? Maybe the cloning software is the issue... | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:17 - May 31 with 1109 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:09 - May 31 by WicklowBlue |
As a person who has worked in Tech Support for far to long than I can remember....can you give more details?
You cloned a SSD drive to a larger SSD drive, which kept the original partition size.
What filesystem did you clone, ntfs or ext etc? What did you use to clone the SSD?
Detail is important, depending on the filesystem, partitions can be extended as previously posted. From the word dynamic I'm thinking this is a Windows partition which I spent many many years having fun with before. Primary Secondary partitions etc. One thing is certain you most definitely do not need to buy another SSD.
Can you post images of the partition structure? Maybe the cloning software is the issue... |
Macrium Reflect is the software. It literally just clones the drive onto the new one. As the old drive was 220MB it set up the new one with the same partitions.
Windows would not let me extend the partitions. It says not enough disk space (which there plainly is) and equally would not let me clean or delete any partitions via Diskpart.
I am confident that if I can clear the new SSD I can run the clone again and adjust the partitions during the cloning process.
Cant do screenie at the moment as the old drives are all back in and the covers back on. The issue seems to be that windows blcoks me from messing with partitions it thinks are system related, even though its a duplicate of the actual system boot drive. | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:24 - May 31 with 1099 views | WicklowBlue |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:09 - May 31 by WicklowBlue |
As a person who has worked in Tech Support for far to long than I can remember....can you give more details?
You cloned a SSD drive to a larger SSD drive, which kept the original partition size.
What filesystem did you clone, ntfs or ext etc? What did you use to clone the SSD?
Detail is important, depending on the filesystem, partitions can be extended as previously posted. From the word dynamic I'm thinking this is a Windows partition which I spent many many years having fun with before. Primary Secondary partitions etc. One thing is certain you most definitely do not need to buy another SSD.
Can you post images of the partition structure? Maybe the cloning software is the issue... |
If Windows is your OS, then disk management is your friend. (In a way I'm kinda happy things haven't changed that much)
Does this link help?
https://www.asus.com/me-en/support/faq/1044688/
There are different partition types and you haven't stated whether you want to boot your PC from the new SSD. | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:33 - May 31 with 1083 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:24 - May 31 by WicklowBlue |
If Windows is your OS, then disk management is your friend. (In a way I'm kinda happy things haven't changed that much)
Does this link help?
https://www.asus.com/me-en/support/faq/1044688/
There are different partition types and you haven't stated whether you want to boot your PC from the new SSD. |
Yep- Im in disk management, and gave up on that because it would not allow the operations. So I moved to the CMD approach with Diskpart. No luck there either. i think that everything is blocked because Windows thinks its operatin system stuff that idiot users shouldnt mess with.
The plan is to boot from the new one and remove the old one- but enlarge the general data partition which is very tight on space at the moment. | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:58 - May 31 with 1068 views | WicklowBlue |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:17 - May 31 by redrickstuhaart |
Macrium Reflect is the software. It literally just clones the drive onto the new one. As the old drive was 220MB it set up the new one with the same partitions.
Windows would not let me extend the partitions. It says not enough disk space (which there plainly is) and equally would not let me clean or delete any partitions via Diskpart.
I am confident that if I can clear the new SSD I can run the clone again and adjust the partitions during the cloning process.
Cant do screenie at the moment as the old drives are all back in and the covers back on. The issue seems to be that windows blcoks me from messing with partitions it thinks are system related, even though its a duplicate of the actual system boot drive. |
I hear your pain! I'm not up to speed these days on 3rd party tools and their efficacy, but from a quick Google that software leverages MS's VSS service.
A quick look on the Interweb and found some comments here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/replacing-the-system-ssd-w
Out of interest, why use a third party cloning software? Why not use MS native tools?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-windows-pc-87a81f8a-78f
Again, not sure if you want to install a larger SSD to boot from. If so a complete Windows backup and system recovery etc would be a better path imho. Rather than battling with partitions.
Or do a full backup to the cloud or external storage then a clean install of windows on the new SSD, update to the latest, setup the partitions as needed and restore the data.
From decades of experience...Windows is great at destroying itself bloat wise over years and years. Maybe Win11 is better but I've lost count of the Windows issues I've given up with in favour of a fresh install.
Also make sure you have updated all the hardware firmware, whether is BIOS, chipset, GPU etc.
Good luck! | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 00:01 - Jun 1 with 1062 views | WicklowBlue |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 18:49 - May 31 by NthQldITFC |
Why can't you adjust partition sizes afterwards? I'm a Linux user, but GParted will do that without problems on an SSD. Surely you can do the same through a Wind*ws GUI or command line? |
Linux yeah baby! Seriously....sure that's what MacOS essentially is. Viva la kernel! | | | |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 00:09 - Jun 1 with 1046 views | WicklowBlue |
| Pc nerds technical question on wiping an SSD with system files on it on 23:58 - May 31 by WicklowBlue |
I hear your pain! I'm not up to speed these days on 3rd party tools and their efficacy, but from a quick Google that software leverages MS's VSS service.
A quick look on the Interweb and found some comments here:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/replacing-the-system-ssd-w
Out of interest, why use a third party cloning software? Why not use MS native tools?
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-windows-pc-87a81f8a-78f
Again, not sure if you want to install a larger SSD to boot from. If so a complete Windows backup and system recovery etc would be a better path imho. Rather than battling with partitions.
Or do a full backup to the cloud or external storage then a clean install of windows on the new SSD, update to the latest, setup the partitions as needed and restore the data.
From decades of experience...Windows is great at destroying itself bloat wise over years and years. Maybe Win11 is better but I've lost count of the Windows issues I've given up with in favour of a fresh install.
Also make sure you have updated all the hardware firmware, whether is BIOS, chipset, GPU etc.
Good luck! |
Final thought, if you are cloning a filesystem you may have permission issues on the clone. Make sure you have full admin rights propegating down to the filesystem. That could prevent you doing what is needed to the partitions.
Similar to the Linux chmod rwx commands. | | | |
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