| A grassroots women / men comparison 14:08 - Jul 10 with 667 views | giant_stow |
This may well be boring, but re the standard of women's football compared to men's...
I went training for an over 35s version of a step 6 club last night. We were short of numbers, so someone invited their mrs along who plays for the women's first team of the same club.
She was good - probably in the upper quarter of the players standard wise. The strength difference didn't seem to matter. She wasn't as fast as come of the fellas, but was more skillful than nearly all.
Like i say, apologies if boring.
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:08 - Jul 10 with 500 views | Swansea_Blue |
The top level women's football I’ve seen is pretty good quality. However (and I don’t want to be that guy) I saw some of the Wales game last night and oh my word. I’d be annoyed if an U12s made similar mistakes. I don’t know at what level the Welsh girls play, but some of them were quite poor. It was a bit disappointing really, as the game in general seems to be coming on in leaps and bounds in terms of quality and popularity, which is great to see. |  |
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:23 - Jul 10 with 483 views | redrickstuhaart |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:08 - Jul 10 by Swansea_Blue |
The top level women's football I’ve seen is pretty good quality. However (and I don’t want to be that guy) I saw some of the Wales game last night and oh my word. I’d be annoyed if an U12s made similar mistakes. I don’t know at what level the Welsh girls play, but some of them were quite poor. It was a bit disappointing really, as the game in general seems to be coming on in leaps and bounds in terms of quality and popularity, which is great to see. |
Bear in mind the pool of players from which those who are currently professional was very small. Even now, there are vastly more boys (or mixed) teams than girls teams. It is probably only around now, that we are beginning to see a decent proportion of female players who have played with teams since they were young and have been well coached from an early stage. [Post edited 10 Jul 18:33]
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:25 - Jul 10 with 481 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:23 - Jul 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Bear in mind the pool of players from which those who are currently professional was very small. Even now, there are vastly more boys (or mixed) teams than girls teams. It is probably only around now, that we are beginning to see a decent proportion of female players who have played with teams since they were young and have been well coached from an early stage. [Post edited 10 Jul 18:33]
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Fair point. I assume there’s a fair bit of catching up to do and probably even more so for a small nation like Wales. | |
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:35 - Jul 10 with 460 views | redrickstuhaart |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:25 - Jul 10 by Swansea_Blue |
Fair point. I assume there’s a fair bit of catching up to do and probably even more so for a small nation like Wales. |
Indeed. I coached for years. There were perhaps 4 teams in the league with girls playing (including mine). But only 1 or 2 in each.
Only three years ago was there first a local girls team to join that played in a girls league. | | | |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:47 - Jul 10 with 442 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:35 - Jul 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Indeed. I coached for years. There were perhaps 4 teams in the league with girls playing (including mine). But only 1 or 2 in each.
Only three years ago was there first a local girls team to join that played in a girls league. |
I like the schools system in the US. Where we were in Maine they were all mixed teams and the coaches made sure they were fairly balanced between sexes and everyone got a chance, whatever their ability. It may not produce the best talent but it was wonderfully inclusive. No areshole parents on the touchline either. My daughter got a chance to play a season that she wouldn’t have in the UK, and after being part of that positive environment my lad gave it about 3 months back here in the UK and then packed it in. Best thing we did; it was toxic. | |
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:57 - Jul 10 with 425 views | MattinLondon |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:08 - Jul 10 by Swansea_Blue |
The top level women's football I’ve seen is pretty good quality. However (and I don’t want to be that guy) I saw some of the Wales game last night and oh my word. I’d be annoyed if an U12s made similar mistakes. I don’t know at what level the Welsh girls play, but some of them were quite poor. It was a bit disappointing really, as the game in general seems to be coming on in leaps and bounds in terms of quality and popularity, which is great to see. |
In the late 90s I watched a high level woman's match and the standard was pretty dire but it was at a time when the vast majority of girls had never really touched a ball let alone play a match.
Since then the standard had shot up quite considerably- as more girls play the game the standard will just go up and up. And as the money increases in the women’s game it’ll be interesting to see if other sports suffer in terms that the stronger, fitter and taller girls/women migrate from netball or basketball to football. [Post edited 10 Jul 19:28]
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 20:30 - Jul 10 with 379 views | Clapham_Junction |
I used to play in one of the the Footy Addicts sessions at the Market Road pitches. One week three girls turned up and played (it was an open/mixed game) and they were extremely good - probably better than most of the male players.
Turned out they were American students who were on soccer scholarships at US universities. They had also brought a male friend, also on a soccer scholarship, who was head and shoulders above everyone else. |  | | |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 20:41 - Jul 10 with 357 views | TractorWood |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:47 - Jul 10 by Swansea_Blue |
I like the schools system in the US. Where we were in Maine they were all mixed teams and the coaches made sure they were fairly balanced between sexes and everyone got a chance, whatever their ability. It may not produce the best talent but it was wonderfully inclusive. No areshole parents on the touchline either. My daughter got a chance to play a season that she wouldn’t have in the UK, and after being part of that positive environment my lad gave it about 3 months back here in the UK and then packed it in. Best thing we did; it was toxic. |
I love football. However, there is a massive world outside of it including, running, swimming, climbing, cycling, golf, tennis, hockey. I know I risk making my child average at everything but that in my experience is much more fun than focusing on one thing that invariably they end up hating. |  |
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| A grassroots women / men comparison on 20:56 - Jul 10 with 332 views | Crawfordsboot |
| A grassroots women / men comparison on 18:47 - Jul 10 by Swansea_Blue |
I like the schools system in the US. Where we were in Maine they were all mixed teams and the coaches made sure they were fairly balanced between sexes and everyone got a chance, whatever their ability. It may not produce the best talent but it was wonderfully inclusive. No areshole parents on the touchline either. My daughter got a chance to play a season that she wouldn’t have in the UK, and after being part of that positive environment my lad gave it about 3 months back here in the UK and then packed it in. Best thing we did; it was toxic. |
In the US there has always been huge amounts of funding for men’s College sports team. A legal challenge re. Equal rights for women reasonably enough required the Colleges to equalise the funding. This has led to a huge surge in funding of women’s sport at US Colleges so much so that a lot of money has gone into women’s and girls football in the US.
Edit - women’s soccer 🙄 [Post edited 10 Jul 20:57]
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