| Players pushing for moves all time... 09:38 - Aug 3 with 669 views | Pippin1970 |
Copying each other to go to other clubs. Issac prime example and Liverpool might not want him 😂. No really loyalty in football unfortunately for best pay day. Imagine if we did it in our jobs 😂. Half of us would be sacked. Mind you doctors strike all time. |  | | |  |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:48 - Aug 3 with 598 views | homer_123 |
There is a difference in our jobs though, quite a considerable one.
If we go and find a better paid job, we can just hand out notice in and leave. Current employer cannot stop us leaving.
Footballers cannot do that. |  |
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| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:54 - Aug 3 with 528 views | LeoMuff |
Doctors had a 26% pay cut since 2008 so I don’t blame them, saving people lives is hardly comparable to kicking a ball around and getting millions for it, often per month. |  |
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| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:56 - Aug 3 with 510 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:48 - Aug 3 by homer_123 |
There is a difference in our jobs though, quite a considerable one.
If we go and find a better paid job, we can just hand out notice in and leave. Current employer cannot stop us leaving.
Footballers cannot do that. |
Was just thinking that very point. It's a very different life and way of living, on so many levels. Let's not get the violins out or anything, but it is weird being 'owned' and having no way out if the people who own them don't want it.
Equally they sign these contracts often for huge money and fees so they should know what they're getting into. I guess they tend to sign when everything is rosy and regret when circumstances change.
Not right or wrong, just a very different scenario that the vast majority will have no true concept of, for better or worse. |  | | |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 10:28 - Aug 3 with 397 views | earlsgreenblue |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:54 - Aug 3 by LeoMuff |
Doctors had a 26% pay cut since 2008 so I don’t blame them, saving people lives is hardly comparable to kicking a ball around and getting millions for it, often per month. |
And all the ones taking jobs since 2008 didn’t know what the salary was before they accepted!
Tosh. | | | |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 10:31 - Aug 3 with 358 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 10:28 - Aug 3 by earlsgreenblue |
And all the ones taking jobs since 2008 didn’t know what the salary was before they accepted!
Tosh. |
Soooooo they should just keep accepting to pay rise forever and ever and ever and ever?
Strange take mate. Hope you never get ill or at least have very deep pockets so you can look after yourself because it’s probably just yourself that really matters, right? |  | | |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 10:32 - Aug 3 with 349 views | StokieBlue |
Are you claiming there is loyalty in the job market?
I would say that's nonsense, loads of people move jobs every day for a better package.
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| Players pushing for moves all time... on 11:30 - Aug 3 with 255 views | bsw72 |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:54 - Aug 3 by LeoMuff |
Doctors had a 26% pay cut since 2008 so I don’t blame them, saving people lives is hardly comparable to kicking a ball around and getting millions for it, often per month. |
Seeing that is 17 years ago, I doubt that more than a handful of junior doctors from 2008 are still junior (resident) doctors.
I understand what they are saying, but I’m not a fan of the arbitrary mixing of data to gain public support, almost everyone in employment who are doing the same job they were in 2008 will have seen a double digit decrease in what their salary is worth due to the impact of inflation especially in the last 5 years. I would counter that with the fact that a large number of people in both public and private sectors will have changed jobs in that time to partly offset that. The challenge in the public sector remains the strict banding, especially at lower levels.
I know the below was from 2023 but still relevant:
https://fullfact.org/health/pay-inflation-mps-junior-doctors/
Now having written all the above, the fundamental problem is that we don’t pay doctors, nurses, fire crews etc what they are worth, but without increasing taxes and/or cutting other services how does it get resolved. |  | | |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 11:37 - Aug 3 with 229 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:48 - Aug 3 by homer_123 |
There is a difference in our jobs though, quite a considerable one.
If we go and find a better paid job, we can just hand out notice in and leave. Current employer cannot stop us leaving.
Footballers cannot do that. |
Not completely true - depends on your employment contract. If you're on a 6 or 12 month notice period, leaving sooner can be tricky, and req | | | |
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| Players pushing for moves all time... on 11:44 - Aug 3 with 206 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 10:28 - Aug 3 by earlsgreenblue |
And all the ones taking jobs since 2008 didn’t know what the salary was before they accepted!
Tosh. |
Until last year’s uplift the wages had stagnated or mostly declined in real terms year on year (bar an isolated uplift in 2020/21). They would have known the salary at the point of entry, but would not have known/expected it to keep dropping. And besides, they set off on the path to becoming doctors 5-10 years before taking up permanent positions. Med school alone is 5 years before they get to the Foundation level (where a lot of these salary issues start cropping up).
Just on a point of basic human decency I’m surprised people support declining wages. I can’t think of anyone I’d expect to take pay cuts year after year. Certainly not in a role like doctors, where their foundation years start on about £36k. Maybe footballers on £36k per WEEK could afford a cut and not notice, but people on about the average wage can’t. [Post edited 3 Aug 11:45]
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| Players pushing for moves all time... on 11:44 - Aug 3 with 205 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Players pushing for moves all time... on 09:48 - Aug 3 by homer_123 |
There is a difference in our jobs though, quite a considerable one.
If we go and find a better paid job, we can just hand out notice in and leave. Current employer cannot stop us leaving.
Footballers cannot do that. |
Not completely true - depends on your employment contract. If you're on a 6 or 12 month notice period, leaving sooner can be tricky, and requires negotiating if you want out sooner - otherwise litigation will result.
So your employer can prevent you from leaving until the expiry of your notice period, which then terminated your employment contract,
Not so different to footballer employment contracts really. It's just that most normal jobs has contracts that invoke much shorter notice period - often 1 month; although 3, 6 and 12 months are becoming more common. | | | |
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