| Budget out early oops 12:13 - Nov 26 with 2198 views | RIPbobby | Lol. What a bunch this lot are. [Post edited 26 Nov 2025 13:22]
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| Budget out early oops on 12:15 - Nov 26 with 1791 views | MrPotatoHead | They're a complete shambles. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:21 - Nov 26 with 1719 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Budget out early oops on 12:15 - Nov 26 by MrPotatoHead | They're a complete shambles. |
Starmer's response to it being labelled a shambles was 'yeah but Liz Truss'. What a circus, the people really deserve so much better than any of the numpties governing us in recent times. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:26 - Nov 26 with 1671 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:21 - Nov 26 by MrPotatoHead | Starmer's response to it being labelled a shambles was 'yeah but Liz Truss'. What a circus, the people really deserve so much better than any of the numpties governing us in recent times. |
is it worse that the obr release the reeves budget early (not the fault of the government) or that the contents of the truss budget crash the economy costing the public dearly through their mortgage payments. i'll take substance over style any day of the week! |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:27 - Nov 26 with 1650 views | SitfcB | Something else that can be blown out of proportion (and already is being). Who cares. Will find out about it eventually plus have known about a lot of things in it for days anyway. |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:29 - Nov 26 with 1616 views | The_Major | Someone in the Treasury is currently on the phone to the OBR, using language that makes Malcolm Tucker sound like Thora Hird. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:29 - Nov 26 with 1603 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Budget out early oops on 12:26 - Nov 26 by positivity | is it worse that the obr release the reeves budget early (not the fault of the government) or that the contents of the truss budget crash the economy costing the public dearly through their mortgage payments. i'll take substance over style any day of the week! |
No doubt, but what a poxy attitude from the PM. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:32 - Nov 26 with 1570 views | RIPbobby |
| Budget out early oops on 12:27 - Nov 26 by SitfcB | Something else that can be blown out of proportion (and already is being). Who cares. Will find out about it eventually plus have known about a lot of things in it for days anyway. |
Of course it does not matter, but many countries around the world set there standards by how we operate. Also it gives all the markets a head start on everything and thus price changes happen before they should. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:37 - Nov 26 with 1459 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:29 - Nov 26 by MrPotatoHead | No doubt, but what a poxy attitude from the PM. |
the poxy attitude is from badenoch, how can she blame the pm for a release from an independent body (set up by the tories, i believe)? |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:38 - Nov 26 with 1439 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:32 - Nov 26 by RIPbobby | Of course it does not matter, but many countries around the world set there standards by how we operate. Also it gives all the markets a head start on everything and thus price changes happen before they should. |
i assume by "this lot" you mean the obr then? |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:38 - Nov 26 with 1437 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Budget out early oops on 12:37 - Nov 26 by positivity | the poxy attitude is from badenoch, how can she blame the pm for a release from an independent body (set up by the tories, i believe)? |
The responsibility is with the OBR. Why not say that? To turn around and say 'yeah but Liz Truss' is such a disappointing response. I say that as somebody who voted for him. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:38 - Nov 26 with 1435 views | Trequartista | The incompetence in this country is absolutely astounding. Whether it be leaving sensitive documents on trains, releasing prisoners by mistake, missing chances to protect children. People just can't do their jobs. |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:39 - Nov 26 with 1425 views | RIPbobby |
| Budget out early oops on 12:37 - Nov 26 by positivity | the poxy attitude is from badenoch, how can she blame the pm for a release from an independent body (set up by the tories, i believe)? |
It is poor how they debate in this house these days. Quite nasty at times. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:41 - Nov 26 with 1379 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:39 - Nov 26 by RIPbobby | It is poor how they debate in this house these days. Quite nasty at times. |
on that i agree, pmqs is a waste of time as far as governance goes |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:42 - Nov 26 with 1361 views | RIPbobby |
| Budget out early oops on 12:38 - Nov 26 by positivity | i assume by "this lot" you mean the obr then? |
Of course. It reflects on us as a nation very poorly. We are a mockery of a sham or is that a sham of a mockery? Hmmm? Whatever anyone is that house says it is only the big man who wins. Small people like you and I suffer from it all. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:42 - Nov 26 with 1358 views | MrPotatoHead |
| Budget out early oops on 12:39 - Nov 26 by RIPbobby | It is poor how they debate in this house these days. Quite nasty at times. |
Its really difficult to watch and never helps instil much confidence in any of them. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 12:45 - Nov 26 with 1314 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Budget out early oops on 12:37 - Nov 26 by positivity | the poxy attitude is from badenoch, how can she blame the pm for a release from an independent body (set up by the tories, i believe)? |
Well quite, the OBR are independent of the government who would only have had early sight of the budget so their forecasts could be revealed in tandem. Same process as with any other budget and government, the fact that they’ve c*cked this particular one can hardly be blamed on the government And while Starmers response isn’t ideal there’s at least a grain of truth in that a document being published early is less consequential than the budget itself crashing the economy |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:47 - Nov 26 with 1293 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:42 - Nov 26 by RIPbobby | Of course. It reflects on us as a nation very poorly. We are a mockery of a sham or is that a sham of a mockery? Hmmm? Whatever anyone is that house says it is only the big man who wins. Small people like you and I suffer from it all. |
which is why i'm glad the budget is, in many ways, the opposite of the truss budget. removing the 2 child benefit cap, a mansion tax, gambling tax etc. could always be much better for the poor, but a damn sight better than con/reform ever do! |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 12:55 - Nov 26 with 1221 views | RIPbobby |
| Budget out early oops on 12:47 - Nov 26 by positivity | which is why i'm glad the budget is, in many ways, the opposite of the truss budget. removing the 2 child benefit cap, a mansion tax, gambling tax etc. could always be much better for the poor, but a damn sight better than con/reform ever do! |
Yeah perhaps it will. But I don't agree with putting up the minimum wage. It is devaluing all the skilled workers and in some respects you might as well do a damn easy minimum wage job for an ok wage than put your knowledge on the line with your expertise. In 10 years expertise will be gone and the nation will be unskilled. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 13:01 - Nov 26 with 1141 views | positivity |
| Budget out early oops on 12:55 - Nov 26 by RIPbobby | Yeah perhaps it will. But I don't agree with putting up the minimum wage. It is devaluing all the skilled workers and in some respects you might as well do a damn easy minimum wage job for an ok wage than put your knowledge on the line with your expertise. In 10 years expertise will be gone and the nation will be unskilled. |
i think the minimum wage is vital, otherwise the big man gets bigger and the poor man gets poorer, get rid of the minimum wage and the benefits bill would soar. if you want to earn more, skilling up remains the way to go. as far as i'm aware general wage growth is higher than the minimum wage growth |  |
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| Budget out early oops on 13:04 - Nov 26 with 1111 views | RIPbobby |
| Budget out early oops on 13:01 - Nov 26 by positivity | i think the minimum wage is vital, otherwise the big man gets bigger and the poor man gets poorer, get rid of the minimum wage and the benefits bill would soar. if you want to earn more, skilling up remains the way to go. as far as i'm aware general wage growth is higher than the minimum wage growth |
I hope you are right, but I feel like that is why prices are going up so much. Too expensive to live in this country now. |  | |  |
| Transfer budget?? on 13:13 - Nov 26 with 1050 views | Marshalls_Mullet | Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes. Like putting a political post in the football section. 😜😜 [Post edited 26 Nov 2025 13:14]
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| Budget out early oops on 13:19 - Nov 26 with 1001 views | mellowblue |
| Budget out early oops on 13:01 - Nov 26 by positivity | i think the minimum wage is vital, otherwise the big man gets bigger and the poor man gets poorer, get rid of the minimum wage and the benefits bill would soar. if you want to earn more, skilling up remains the way to go. as far as i'm aware general wage growth is higher than the minimum wage growth |
minimum wage has (rightly) more than doubled in 15 years, I doubt very much general wage growth has done that. I know mine hasn't !! Upskilling is all very fine for the individual, the problem is with the employer who is seeing the erosion of the gap between the unskilled an the skilled yet can not afford to maintain that gap by across the board pay rises. The minimum wage has been addressed now and the increase should be slowed to inflation levels. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 13:21 - Nov 26 with 985 views | NthQldITFC |
| Budget out early oops on 12:29 - Nov 26 by The_Major | Someone in the Treasury is currently on the phone to the OBR, using language that makes Malcolm Tucker sound like Thora Hird. |
Haven't watched TTOI for a while - I could do with a bit of geeing up today, feeling a bit down and I've just been told I've got a face like Dot Cotton licking piss off a nettle. |  |
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| Transfer budget?? on 13:22 - Nov 26 with 971 views | RIPbobby |
| Transfer budget?? on 13:13 - Nov 26 by Marshalls_Mullet | Don't worry, everyone makes mistakes. Like putting a political post in the football section. 😜😜 [Post edited 26 Nov 2025 13:14]
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Point taken well put. I have now learn how to change it. Woo hoo. |  | |  |
| Budget out early oops on 13:30 - Nov 26 with 937 views | BloomBlue | I dont have lot of time for Reeves, but the c0ck-up is with the OBR. Someone should be sacked at the OBR. |  | |  |
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