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The Isak non penalty 17:31 - Nov 3 with 690 viewsGarv

And the unnecessary fallout...

Should a penalty ever really be given if not one single player appeals for it?

I was surprised to realize I was agreeing with Martin Keown yesterday when he covered it. Everyone was dead set on it being a penalty and that Isak was impeded, but did anyone think to get Isak's thoughts on it? You know, the guy that was central to the incident and made nothing of it?

Not sure Iraola's message of encouraging diving and play acting is the way to go.

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The Isak non penalty on 17:35 - Nov 3 with 664 views_CliveBaker_

Surely not getting decisions unless players appeal for it is only going to encourage diving and play acting? Players shouldn't have to go to ground and shout at the referee to get them given.
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The Isak non penalty on 17:37 - Nov 3 with 658 viewsredrickstuhaart

Yes. If decisions are not given for clear fouls, you encourage people to go down.

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The Isak non penalty on 18:01 - Nov 3 with 574 viewsbournemouthblue

My abiding thought was if that's a penalty than Dara's definitely was

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The Isak non penalty on 18:38 - Nov 3 with 513 viewsDeano69

If only there was a team of experts watching numerous camera angles to assist a referee who is not really able to have eyes everywhere.

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The Isak non penalty on 18:39 - Nov 3 with 512 viewsNutkins_Return

Difficult one that as was such a blatant pull. But I see where you are coming from because just feels like Isak can't have thought it effected him much given zero appeal.

There is a big difference between appealing for a pen and diving. I think Isak should be making it clear he was held. Madness to just not even react really.

Diving is completely different.

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The Isak non penalty on 21:24 - Nov 3 with 329 viewsGuthrum

This isn't cricket. Decisions are given by the Referee, on their initiative alone (aided by the Assistant Referees). The players should have nothing to do with it, let alone appealing.

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The Isak non penalty on 22:44 - Nov 3 with 230 viewsVaughan8

If you're agreeing with Keown you almost certainly know you're wrong.

We shouldn't be encouraging players to go down. If it's a foul, its a foul. The pull on the shirt almost certainly stopped him from getting his head on the ball. Would have scored? Who knows. But its a clear foul
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The Isak non penalty on 23:21 - Nov 3 with 164 viewsGarv

The Isak non penalty on 22:44 - Nov 3 by Vaughan8

If you're agreeing with Keown you almost certainly know you're wrong.

We shouldn't be encouraging players to go down. If it's a foul, its a foul. The pull on the shirt almost certainly stopped him from getting his head on the ball. Would have scored? Who knows. But its a clear foul


I agree on the whole, but if no player reacts it's not really going to encourage the referee to give something.

I don't want to encourage players to go down, the opposite, but I'd expect some sort of authentic appeal.

Isak made nothing of it, I don't think that should be ignored.

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The Isak non penalty on 07:47 - Nov 4 with 28 viewsJammyDodgerrr

A shirt pull as obvious as that, gets given anywhere else on the pitch. It's pretty crazy it wasn't given as a penalty.

Isak has been punished for not throwing himself to the floor.
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