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Anyone see him on the box this morning? Clains he agreed with the whips to conceal this until after the party conference Another tory party war at the taxpayers expense
It's funny how Gove is desperately defending her. He knows if she goes it might well be Boris and he'll be out of the cabinet.
Is it really a good idea for you pro EU people to want May gone? If she's replaced with Boris you might get an even harder Brexit. At least at the moment people like Rudd and Hammond will have some influence.
A bit off topic but have you seen Nick Clegg has released a book called 'How To Stop Brexit'?
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:39 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE
It's funny how Gove is desperately defending her. He knows if she goes it might well be Boris and he'll be out of the cabinet.
Is it really a good idea for you pro EU people to want May gone? If she's replaced with Boris you might get an even harder Brexit. At least at the moment people like Rudd and Hammond will have some influence.
A bit off topic but have you seen Nick Clegg has released a book called 'How To Stop Brexit'?
We are unquestionably going to crash out without a deal, not sure it matters who is in charge.
At least with Boris when it goes completely wrong the odious c*nt will have to take some accountability. Although it's for exactly this reason I highly doubt the coward would want the job.
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Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:46 - Oct 6 with 9115 views
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:39 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE
It's funny how Gove is desperately defending her. He knows if she goes it might well be Boris and he'll be out of the cabinet.
Is it really a good idea for you pro EU people to want May gone? If she's replaced with Boris you might get an even harder Brexit. At least at the moment people like Rudd and Hammond will have some influence.
A bit off topic but have you seen Nick Clegg has released a book called 'How To Stop Brexit'?
Boris isn't the type to hold a grudge and he seems to have made his peace with Gove. Secondly, I doubt very much the MP's will put Boris through to the final two for the members to vote for.
On a side note, when an odious turd like Grant Shapps says you no longer have any credibility then the game is definitely up.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:46 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
Boris isn't the type to hold a grudge and he seems to have made his peace with Gove. Secondly, I doubt very much the MP's will put Boris through to the final two for the members to vote for.
On a side note, when an odious turd like Grant Shapps says you no longer have any credibility then the game is definitely up.
Who do you think the final two would be? If it's not a Brexiter then i'll have to start defending May...
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:39 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE
It's funny how Gove is desperately defending her. He knows if she goes it might well be Boris and he'll be out of the cabinet.
Is it really a good idea for you pro EU people to want May gone? If she's replaced with Boris you might get an even harder Brexit. At least at the moment people like Rudd and Hammond will have some influence.
A bit off topic but have you seen Nick Clegg has released a book called 'How To Stop Brexit'?
May has so little authority, Johnson publicly undermining her twice in two weeks, that it is going to be impossible for her to agree anything with the EU at the moment. There remains a high likelihood of a chaotic no deal and economic crash despite the obvious need to delay departure beyond March 2019 to try to avoid that.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:12 - Oct 6 by Steve_M
May has so little authority, Johnson publicly undermining her twice in two weeks, that it is going to be impossible for her to agree anything with the EU at the moment. There remains a high likelihood of a chaotic no deal and economic crash despite the obvious need to delay departure beyond March 2019 to try to avoid that.
No deal would be absolutely fine. We fall back on WTO rules.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:08 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE
Who do you think the final two would be? If it's not a Brexiter then i'll have to start defending May...
Hammond appears to be the choice of remainers. Leadson has kept her head down but she was pretty appalling during last year's leadership election.
It will be a leaver vs remainer imo but I can't see who will be the leaver front runner as Boris has pissed off the parliamentary party. Gove is disliked but has been an outstanding minister. Davis could do a short term job to steady the ship for the next couple of years before handing over to somebody who could fight an election. He is a leaver but has been on good terms with the remainers.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:20 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
Hammond appears to be the choice of remainers. Leadson has kept her head down but she was pretty appalling during last year's leadership election.
It will be a leaver vs remainer imo but I can't see who will be the leaver front runner as Boris has pissed off the parliamentary party. Gove is disliked but has been an outstanding minister. Davis could do a short term job to steady the ship for the next couple of years before handing over to somebody who could fight an election. He is a leaver but has been on good terms with the remainers.
Davis seems to be the only one that can unite the party in the short term, the rest have far too many enemies.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear May stand down any day now.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:20 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
Hammond appears to be the choice of remainers. Leadson has kept her head down but she was pretty appalling during last year's leadership election.
It will be a leaver vs remainer imo but I can't see who will be the leaver front runner as Boris has pissed off the parliamentary party. Gove is disliked but has been an outstanding minister. Davis could do a short term job to steady the ship for the next couple of years before handing over to somebody who could fight an election. He is a leaver but has been on good terms with the remainers.
Forgot about Davis, that would be ok. Clegg is encouraging remainers to join Labour and Conservatives to try and influence policy. How does the voting work?
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:22 - Oct 6 by hype313
Davis seems to be the only one that can unite the party in the short term, the rest have far too many enemies.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear May stand down any day now.
If you'd have asked me this morning I would have said she wouldn't last the weekend. But I sense a Gordon Brown "Bigotgate" moment. People are starting to feel May is getting an undeserved kicking
Remember Cameron was looking like getting a majority in 2010 until Brown made his bigot gaffe. Then people felt sorry for him and thought the media went in to hard on him , and he recovered slightly in the polls.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:58 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
If you'd have asked me this morning I would have said she wouldn't last the weekend. But I sense a Gordon Brown "Bigotgate" moment. People are starting to feel May is getting an undeserved kicking
Remember Cameron was looking like getting a majority in 2010 until Brown made his bigot gaffe. Then people felt sorry for him and thought the media went in to hard on him , and he recovered slightly in the polls.
Just seen Nadine Dorries quote "If Grant has 30 Signatures, then Diane Abbott counted them"
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:35 - Oct 6 by J2BLUE
Forgot about Davis, that would be ok. Clegg is encouraging remainers to join Labour and Conservatives to try and influence policy. How does the voting work?
The MPs whittle it down to 2 candidates first then the wider membership chooses between the 2. Boris has a challenge in making it down to the final 2, he's not popular among the MPs. But if he does then the membership will likely choose him against pretty much anyone else.
I believe - and hope - that when May goes (and she could yet cling on some time) we will end up with an outsider / younger candidate sneaking through in the way David Cameron did when it was being touted early on as Davis Vs Clarke.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:06 - Oct 6 by baxterbasics
The MPs whittle it down to 2 candidates first then the wider membership chooses between the 2. Boris has a challenge in making it down to the final 2, he's not popular among the MPs. But if he does then the membership will likely choose him against pretty much anyone else.
I believe - and hope - that when May goes (and she could yet cling on some time) we will end up with an outsider / younger candidate sneaking through in the way David Cameron did when it was being touted early on as Davis Vs Clarke.
Priti Patel for me.
Rory Stewart for me if it's going to be an outsider.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 12:17 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
No deal would be absolutely fine. We fall back on WTO rules.
Is falling back on WTO rules worse than what we currently have with the EU - as well as all the treaties we have with non-EU countries that we have as part of the bloc?
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Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:45 - Oct 6 with 8813 views
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:29 - Oct 6 by MattinLondon
Is falling back on WTO rules worse than what we currently have with the EU - as well as all the treaties we have with non-EU countries that we have as part of the bloc?
No. Because although we may face average tariffs of 2.4% under WTO rules but our net contribution to the EU budget is equivalent to a 7% tariff.
The big players in the world have said that as soon as we leave they are keen to do trade deals with the UK. And the simplicity of the situation is that we won't be part of a block that includes 27 other countries all protecting their own interests when negotiating trade deals.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:15 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
Rory Stewart for me if it's going to be an outsider.
Has a wafer thin majority in Plymouth which may count against him, same as Amber Rudd, though she is on maneuvers has got Lynton Crosby's firm to work for her recently
Dave came from pretty much nowhere to become leader he was shadow education secretary if I remember rightly.
Ruth Davidson for me if she can be persuaded to step aside from Scotland for the greater good of the party.
Will say this if the whips thought Schapps was getting close to 48 names they'd have been in to see the 1922 committee by now who would be on there way to Maidenhead to advise the PM that the time is now.
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Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:53 - Oct 6 with 8781 views
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:46 - Oct 6 by IpswichKnight
Has a wafer thin majority in Plymouth which may count against him, same as Amber Rudd, though she is on maneuvers has got Lynton Crosby's firm to work for her recently
Dave came from pretty much nowhere to become leader he was shadow education secretary if I remember rightly.
Ruth Davidson for me if she can be persuaded to step aside from Scotland for the greater good of the party.
Will say this if the whips thought Schapps was getting close to 48 names they'd have been in to see the 1922 committee by now who would be on there way to Maidenhead to advise the PM that the time is now.
His seat is Penrith & The Border and he has a majority of about 13000. (edit) Are you thinking of Johnny Mercer?
Davidson would be a breath of fresh air but she can only lead if their is a leadership election in two or three years time which would give her a chance to find a seat and be a member of Parliament.
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:53 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
His seat is Penrith & The Border and he has a majority of about 13000. (edit) Are you thinking of Johnny Mercer?
Davidson would be a breath of fresh air but she can only lead if their is a leadership election in two or three years time which would give her a chance to find a seat and be a member of Parliament.
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yes i am :)
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Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 14:50 - Oct 6 with 8716 views
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 11:46 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue
Boris isn't the type to hold a grudge and he seems to have made his peace with Gove. Secondly, I doubt very much the MP's will put Boris through to the final two for the members to vote for.
On a side note, when an odious turd like Grant Shapps says you no longer have any credibility then the game is definitely up.
I'm aware I might get whooshed but: Boris not holding a grudge?! What about him and Ham Face?
Wasn't Brexit, in some respects, engineered because Boris was unhappy that some upstart lower class Bullingdon member was PM and he was just a horrific buffoon?
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Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 14:56 - Oct 6 with 8698 views
Grant Shapps + around 30 tory MP's on 13:46 - Oct 6 by IpswichKnight
Has a wafer thin majority in Plymouth which may count against him, same as Amber Rudd, though she is on maneuvers has got Lynton Crosby's firm to work for her recently
Dave came from pretty much nowhere to become leader he was shadow education secretary if I remember rightly.
Ruth Davidson for me if she can be persuaded to step aside from Scotland for the greater good of the party.
Will say this if the whips thought Schapps was getting close to 48 names they'd have been in to see the 1922 committee by now who would be on there way to Maidenhead to advise the PM that the time is now.
Can't see the DUP propping up a government led by a Lesbian.
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