| Conspiracy theory? on 22:59 - May 30 with 1690 views | Darth_Koont |
Then there would still be an observable link between MMR and autism. Isn't that obvious?
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| Conspiracy theory? on 23:07 - May 30 with 1654 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conspiracy theory? on 22:59 - May 30 by Darth_Koont |
Then there would still be an observable link between MMR and autism. Isn't that obvious?
Never mind the unknowns, it's people's refusal to deal with the knowns that's the real mystery. |
We are faced with a myriad of barely understood interactions between organs of the human body.....1 in 60 are developing autism....maybe certainty on either side of the debate sbould be tempered. |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 23:21 - May 30 with 1605 views | factual_blue |
Try 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre.
In addition to debunking all this sort of nonsense, you can irritate your wife by showing her what cobblers the makers of cosmetics talk, and how all face creams are just Nivea with some nice-smelling water added. |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 03:39 - May 31 with 1520 views | WeWereZombies |
| Conspiracy theory? on 23:07 - May 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
We are faced with a myriad of barely understood interactions between organs of the human body.....1 in 60 are developing autism....maybe certainty on either side of the debate sbould be tempered. |
Can you post a link for the 1 in 60 are developing autism? Because I would also like to see some context about how autism went undiagnosed in previous times so that we can assess if this a new phenomenon, if it really is due to MMR vaccines or has always been present.
Actually, don't bother, found it:
https://journals.lww.com/tnpj/Citation/2018/09000/Identifying_autism_spectrum_di |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? (n/t) on 03:57 - May 31 with 1516 views | SpruceMoose |
| Conspiracy theory? on 23:07 - May 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
We are faced with a myriad of barely understood interactions between organs of the human body.....1 in 60 are developing autism....maybe certainty on either side of the debate sbould be tempered. |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 06:33 - May 31 with 1441 views | StokieBlue |
| Conspiracy theory? on 23:07 - May 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
We are faced with a myriad of barely understood interactions between organs of the human body.....1 in 60 are developing autism....maybe certainty on either side of the debate sbould be tempered. |
You started with a question. Do you have and evidence?
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| Conspiracy theory? on 07:45 - May 31 with 1361 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Yep I was surprised too. | |
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| Conspiracy theory? (n/t) on 07:57 - May 31 with 1335 views | StokieBlue |
That's some very muddled thinking.
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| Conspiracy theory? on 08:09 - May 31 with 1317 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I am merely trying to perpetuate an open mind and not pretending that science already has all the answers....too many Laputans on here!?
Imagine if some yoghurt weaving hippy had come on here a few years back suggesting that injecting poo into other people's guts could be beneficial. Are people really suggesting that what we put in to our bodies (including vaccines) MAY not have unexpected consequences including adverse effects on gut bacteria.
Now the (more) controversial bit....say you were a research scientist for Bayer in to gut bacteria and you found that you could positively change gut health (as per linked article) what would be the financial imperative (considering the interests of shareholders) to see if your vaccines lead to poor gut health in the first place? As things stand you can make money at both ends as it were! | |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 08:13 - May 31 with 1314 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Interesting to see the Danish considerably bucking the 1 in 60 rate (1 in 100 in that report) Maybe it's something in their diet? | |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 08:16 - May 31 with 1310 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Conspiracy theory? on 23:21 - May 30 by factual_blue |
Try 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre.
In addition to debunking all this sort of nonsense, you can irritate your wife by showing her what cobblers the makers of cosmetics talk, and how all face creams are just Nivea with some nice-smelling water added. |
“NIce-smelling”?
At least I now know you’ve never had an affair with my missus! |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 08:32 - May 31 with 1292 views | factual_blue |
| Conspiracy theory? on 08:16 - May 31 by Swansea_Blue |
“NIce-smelling”?
At least I now know you’ve never had an affair with my missus! |
She said you prefer a gamey odour. | |
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| Conspiracy theory? (n/t) on 08:44 - May 31 with 1263 views | StokieBlue |
I meant the article.
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| Conspiracy theory? (n/t) on 08:46 - May 31 with 1260 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conspiracy theory? (n/t) on 08:44 - May 31 by StokieBlue |
I meant the article.
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The review was just to get to the documentary link. | |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 08:50 - May 31 with 1252 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conspiracy theory? on 06:33 - May 31 by StokieBlue |
You started with a question. Do you have and evidence?
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Having just re read that Stokie, isn't this part of the problem with this whole debate....since when did questions require evidence! I think the linked article is enough evidence for an open mind to at least wonder.. | |
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| hmmmm on 09:01 - May 31 with 1255 views | Dyland |
| Conspiracy theory? on 08:09 - May 31 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I am merely trying to perpetuate an open mind and not pretending that science already has all the answers....too many Laputans on here!?
Imagine if some yoghurt weaving hippy had come on here a few years back suggesting that injecting poo into other people's guts could be beneficial. Are people really suggesting that what we put in to our bodies (including vaccines) MAY not have unexpected consequences including adverse effects on gut bacteria.
Now the (more) controversial bit....say you were a research scientist for Bayer in to gut bacteria and you found that you could positively change gut health (as per linked article) what would be the financial imperative (considering the interests of shareholders) to see if your vaccines lead to poor gut health in the first place? As things stand you can make money at both ends as it were! |
"I am merely trying to perpetuate an open mind and not pretending that science already has all the answers"
I'm not getting involved in a Vax debate, it just gets nasty and tedious on here. I do want to highlight this fundamental issue common with your postings on this and other similar debates. You start your post with a classic straw man. No one in the scientific community thinks they know all the answers. It's not how science works. Too many Nirvana fallacy folks on here....?
FWIW we probably have a lot more in common than differences, and as I said the other day, I'd gladly share a table and a drink with anyone here, or a pipe may be a better bet with your good self :) |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 09:06 - May 31 with 1234 views | crunchie1978 |
Not enough tit milk when first born buh....thats the problem today! |  | | |
| hmmmm on 09:08 - May 31 with 1235 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| hmmmm on 09:01 - May 31 by Dyland |
"I am merely trying to perpetuate an open mind and not pretending that science already has all the answers"
I'm not getting involved in a Vax debate, it just gets nasty and tedious on here. I do want to highlight this fundamental issue common with your postings on this and other similar debates. You start your post with a classic straw man. No one in the scientific community thinks they know all the answers. It's not how science works. Too many Nirvana fallacy folks on here....?
FWIW we probably have a lot more in common than differences, and as I said the other day, I'd gladly share a table and a drink with anyone here, or a pipe may be a better bet with your good self :) |
Agreed....I have never come down one way or the other on the Vax thing as I do not know. I stick by thinking that many on here do pretend that science has the answers on this issue though.
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| Conspiracy theory? on 09:11 - May 31 with 1221 views | StokieBlue |
| Conspiracy theory? on 08:50 - May 31 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Having just re read that Stokie, isn't this part of the problem with this whole debate....since when did questions require evidence! I think the linked article is enough evidence for an open mind to at least wonder.. |
It's a leading question though. You posed it then you correlated it with something else. That correlation requires some evidence.
Is it going to rain today? Perhaps that means debtster eats bogies.
That question then correlation requires evidence. It's clearly false as well :).
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| Conspiracy theory? on 09:18 - May 31 with 1199 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conspiracy theory? on 09:11 - May 31 by StokieBlue |
It's a leading question though. You posed it then you correlated it with something else. That correlation requires some evidence.
Is it going to rain today? Perhaps that means debtster eats bogies.
That question then correlation requires evidence. It's clearly false as well :).
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It's not going to rain today but I will probably eat some bogies......hope this helps! 
I would be amazed if vaccines did not impact gut health....whether this would be significant I have not a clue. | |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 09:19 - May 31 with 1193 views | DanTheMan |
| Conspiracy theory? on 09:18 - May 31 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It's not going to rain today but I will probably eat some bogies......hope this helps!
I would be amazed if vaccines did not impact gut health....whether this would be significant I have not a clue. |
"I would be amazed if vaccines did not impact gut health"
Why? |  |
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| Conspiracy theory? on 09:20 - May 31 with 1189 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Conspiracy theory? on 09:06 - May 31 by crunchie1978 |
Not enough tit milk when first born buh....thats the problem today! |
This may be the most accurate thing you have ever posted. | |
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