| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse 16:28 - Jun 4 with 5492 views | BrixtonBlue |
Looks like the NHS is one of the things Trump is after. Gawd help us.
"Mr Corbyn said he would oppose any post-Brexit trade deal with the US that allowed foreign companies "in to take over the NHS" - insisting he would defend a free health service "with every breath in his body".
But after holding talks with Mrs May, Mr Trump said no area could be excluded from future trade discussions, including the NHS.
"When you are dealing with trade, everything is on the table, so the NHS and anything else."
On Sunday, the US Ambassador to the UK, Woody Johnson, told the BBC "all things that are traded would be on the table" - including healthcare."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48515506
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:33 - Jun 4 with 2243 views | giant_stow |
See why people are upset with Corbyn and his in/out support for Brexit yet? |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:37 - Jun 4 with 2237 views | BrixtonBlue |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:33 - Jun 4 by giant_stow |
See why people are upset with Corbyn and his in/out support for Brexit yet? |
I don't know how many times I have to say I disagree with Corbyn's stance on Europe before it sinks in Ulla! | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:41 - Jun 4 with 2222 views | giant_stow |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:37 - Jun 4 by BrixtonBlue |
I don't know how many times I have to say I disagree with Corbyn's stance on Europe before it sinks in Ulla! |
Fair enough - this goes back to that thread the other day about whether one votes just on Brexit or other issues too though. To me, getting brexit wrong, means he's wrong as everything else stems from that, but you disagree which is fine. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:47 - Jun 4 with 2202 views | wkj |
Regardless on the validity, the claims about the NHS were a huge integral part of the decision making process for the EU withdrawal referendum, this is just a really cruel twist of fate that were here now, potentially facing a scenario even further from the big claim on the bus. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:03 - Jun 4 with 2174 views | LeoMuff |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 16:47 - Jun 4 by wkj |
Regardless on the validity, the claims about the NHS were a huge integral part of the decision making process for the EU withdrawal referendum, this is just a really cruel twist of fate that were here now, potentially facing a scenario even further from the big claim on the bus. |
Listening to a trade deal negotiator on 5 live yesterday, saying that this isn’t a maybe, we will not get a trade deal with the US without opening up pharma pricing to US companies ax our position is so weak. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:09 - Jun 4 with 2157 views | Guthrum |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:03 - Jun 4 by LeoMuff |
Listening to a trade deal negotiator on 5 live yesterday, saying that this isn’t a maybe, we will not get a trade deal with the US without opening up pharma pricing to US companies ax our position is so weak. |
From a US perspective, they'd be daft not to insist on it. And the current administratin are unlikely to take a soft approach. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:16 - Jun 4 with 2130 views | wkj |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:03 - Jun 4 by LeoMuff |
Listening to a trade deal negotiator on 5 live yesterday, saying that this isn’t a maybe, we will not get a trade deal with the US without opening up pharma pricing to US companies ax our position is so weak. |
Going into the withdrawal vote I had many questions about the EU and how it did things but I voted remain because of the fear of the unknown. Although I can't say I entertained this possibility it is certainly one of the unknowns I don't like very much. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:18 - Jun 4 with 2122 views | J2BLUE |
May's answer is interesting Does anyone think she would have answered like that if she wasn't leaving? She's openly admitting the NHS would be on the table, possibly to stick it to the people rushing to take her job.
I have no idea how anyone can still support Brexit. The neon warning lights are flashing. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:21 - Jun 4 with 2108 views | wkj |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:18 - Jun 4 by J2BLUE |
May's answer is interesting Does anyone think she would have answered like that if she wasn't leaving? She's openly admitting the NHS would be on the table, possibly to stick it to the people rushing to take her job.
I have no idea how anyone can still support Brexit. The neon warning lights are flashing. |
May will be finished with politics after this I am sure. If any of her actions are seen as odd now they are probably more aimed toward landing herself a decent job in the private sector much like Cameron and George Vokdermort have now. I doubt she really cares to stick it to the tory party as they're not done ripping themselves up just yet. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:29 - Jun 4 with 2090 views | TJS |
Does this actually mean US firms providing services to / being involved in running the NHS or just being able to supply pharmaceutical products to the NHS ? |  | | |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:31 - Jun 4 with 2076 views | LeoMuff |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:16 - Jun 4 by wkj |
Going into the withdrawal vote I had many questions about the EU and how it did things but I voted remain because of the fear of the unknown. Although I can't say I entertained this possibility it is certainly one of the unknowns I don't like very much. |
not only did he say the NHS will definitely be on the table but to get a deal with the US we would probably have to agree to no deal with someone like China. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:35 - Jun 4 with 2062 views | wkj |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:31 - Jun 4 by LeoMuff |
not only did he say the NHS will definitely be on the table but to get a deal with the US we would probably have to agree to no deal with someone like China. |
Smh... Oh well... At the end of the day we took back control so there is that at least. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:38 - Jun 4 with 2051 views | Guthrum |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:31 - Jun 4 by LeoMuff |
not only did he say the NHS will definitely be on the table but to get a deal with the US we would probably have to agree to no deal with someone like China. |
We would certainly get caught in the middle of that trade war. Do we sacrifice investment in overpriced power stations for chlorinated chicken? | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:39 - Jun 4 with 2046 views | Guthrum |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:35 - Jun 4 by wkj |
Smh... Oh well... At the end of the day we took back control so there is that at least. |
Altho we may have to re-house unwanted former militants for the US ... | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:45 - Jun 4 with 2021 views | BlueBadger |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:29 - Jun 4 by TJS |
Does this actually mean US firms providing services to / being involved in running the NHS or just being able to supply pharmaceutical products to the NHS ? |
All of the above, plus a lifting of restrictions on advertising prescription medications and the ability to take legal action should contracts NOT be awarded to the private sector. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:52 - Jun 4 with 1990 views | BlueBadger |
I look forward to BDS telling us why this flavour of neo-liberalism is defineitly much, much better than EU neo-liberalism. [Post edited 4 Jun 2019 17:58]
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:08 - Jun 4 with 1890 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
It was always something the remain campaign was warning about. As was the problem with the Irish border which still can't be settled after 3 years of trying.
However, all the remain warnings were considered scaremongering and the leave claims were weighed as having equal validity. The quote was "we have had enough of experts". |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:39 - Jun 4 with 1842 views | ronnyd |
Had a Google earlier at what the CITA and TTIP trade agreements between the EU and US were about and it looks like we could be in the mire Remaining or Brexiting. Can,t link, but worth a look as you get both sides of the implications. The War on Want slant is very anti. Edit, the CITA is between EU and Canada. [Post edited 4 Jun 2019 19:51]
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:47 - Jun 4 with 1823 views | gordon |
Will be great to see what sectors we have to throw under the Brexit bus when we come to do deals with China, India, Korea and Brazil et al. |  | | |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:53 - Jun 4 with 1809 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:39 - Jun 4 by ronnyd |
Had a Google earlier at what the CITA and TTIP trade agreements between the EU and US were about and it looks like we could be in the mire Remaining or Brexiting. Can,t link, but worth a look as you get both sides of the implications. The War on Want slant is very anti. Edit, the CITA is between EU and Canada. [Post edited 4 Jun 2019 19:51]
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https://waronwant.org/what-ceta
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/30/ttip-trade-deal-agreements
In answer to Badger sh1t flavoured ice cream with sprinkles on still ends up tasting of sh1t. |  |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 20:24 - Jun 4 with 1766 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:39 - Jun 4 by ronnyd |
Had a Google earlier at what the CITA and TTIP trade agreements between the EU and US were about and it looks like we could be in the mire Remaining or Brexiting. Can,t link, but worth a look as you get both sides of the implications. The War on Want slant is very anti. Edit, the CITA is between EU and Canada. [Post edited 4 Jun 2019 19:51]
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This is the really toxic bit....say as a nation we decided to nationalise a sector this agreement means that multinationals can sue us!
"CETA includes the toxic investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) mechanism, which allows companies to sue governments over any new law or policy that might reduce their profits in future. In a public consultation held in Europe, over 97% of respondents rejected the introduction of this new power for business. Yet the EU has gone ahead with it anyway, and CETA will introduce ISDS not only for Canadian companies but also for any US firms with offices in Canada (which is most of them)."
To see how ISDS subverts democracy watch the video here....
http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2015/03/two-videos-one-politics-one-philosophy-2/ | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 20:31 - Jun 4 with 1734 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 17:52 - Jun 4 by BlueBadger |
I look forward to BDS telling us why this flavour of neo-liberalism is defineitly much, much better than EU neo-liberalism. [Post edited 4 Jun 2019 17:58]
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Have a watch of the video and articles linked above and get back to me on who/what the EU serves. | |
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| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 04:41 - Jun 5 with 1582 views | BlueBadger |
| I didn't think Brexit could get any worse on 19:08 - Jun 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It was always something the remain campaign was warning about. As was the problem with the Irish border which still can't be settled after 3 years of trying.
However, all the remain warnings were considered scaremongering and the leave claims were weighed as having equal validity. The quote was "we have had enough of experts". |
Brexit will clearly be the saving of the NHS as the 52% who voted to get shot of experts will no longer be wanting to seek help from people who know what they're talking about, after all.. | |
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