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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... 07:04 - Mar 22 with 885 viewsElderGrizzly

Plus the French have said they are prepared to shut the border to us in 24 hours if we don’t have more stringent measures in place





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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 08:41 - Mar 22 with 734 viewsDurovigutum

These should be pinned

On the forehead of everyone still socialising!
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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 08:59 - Mar 22 with 704 viewsWeWereZombies

Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 08:41 - Mar 22 by Durovigutum

These should be pinned

On the forehead of everyone still socialising!


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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 09:05 - Mar 22 with 697 viewsStokieBlue

Some good graphs there - thanks for posting.

A couple of things:

- Comparing things to China is totally pointless as you've already told us they under reported by x7 so that graph is nothing like the real situation was in China.

- He says the UK and US have more deaths than when China, Spain and France locked down but looking at the curves they locked down earlier because they were on a much steeper gradient - especially Spain.

- Don't the 3rd and 4th graphs show that the government response is actually doing OK? We are below every other major and comparable Western country at this point in the outbreak although obviously on the same rough curve so I am not downplaying it.

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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 09:47 - Mar 22 with 645 viewsPinewoodblue

Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 09:05 - Mar 22 by StokieBlue

Some good graphs there - thanks for posting.

A couple of things:

- Comparing things to China is totally pointless as you've already told us they under reported by x7 so that graph is nothing like the real situation was in China.

- He says the UK and US have more deaths than when China, Spain and France locked down but looking at the curves they locked down earlier because they were on a much steeper gradient - especially Spain.

- Don't the 3rd and 4th graphs show that the government response is actually doing OK? We are below every other major and comparable Western country at this point in the outbreak although obviously on the same rough curve so I am not downplaying it.

SB


Graphs of unequals. Too many variables so latching on to one aspect doesn’t really help as it is easy for people to dismiss the message.

Italy no longer checks for covid-19 if you die and home or in a care home. Each country has it’s own approach to testing,.

Once we have a universal test to see if people have had it then comparisons will be worthwhile.

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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 10:34 - Mar 22 with 611 viewsNthQldITFC

Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 09:47 - Mar 22 by Pinewoodblue

Graphs of unequals. Too many variables so latching on to one aspect doesn’t really help as it is easy for people to dismiss the message.

Italy no longer checks for covid-19 if you die and home or in a care home. Each country has it’s own approach to testing,.

Once we have a universal test to see if people have had it then comparisons will be worthwhile.


Absolutely. There are far too many differences in testing and reporting regimes between countries to draw anything but the coarsest conclusions from this data, certainly as far as the number of infections goes.

Perhaps the comparison between death rate and recovery rate is more meaningful, but as you imply it's probably only once we have an antibody test and are significantly further down the line that any really meaningful analysis can emerge.

What we need to do now is take every opportunity to keep the numbers of people requiring care as manageable as possible, by following official advice, and certainly not get too obsessed with the upsides OR downsides of data which the majority of us laymen struggle to understand well at the best of times.

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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 10:36 - Mar 22 with 607 viewspointofblue

Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 10:34 - Mar 22 by NthQldITFC

Absolutely. There are far too many differences in testing and reporting regimes between countries to draw anything but the coarsest conclusions from this data, certainly as far as the number of infections goes.

Perhaps the comparison between death rate and recovery rate is more meaningful, but as you imply it's probably only once we have an antibody test and are significantly further down the line that any really meaningful analysis can emerge.

What we need to do now is take every opportunity to keep the numbers of people requiring care as manageable as possible, by following official advice, and certainly not get too obsessed with the upsides OR downsides of data which the majority of us laymen struggle to understand well at the best of times.


I agree. Anyone trying to present data at the moment outside of the official bodies is scaremongering and, dare I say, harming people’s mental health even though the overall intention is one of good.

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Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 10:43 - Mar 22 with 594 viewsWD19

Latest Global Tracking of Covid-19: Basically Social Distance now... on 08:41 - Mar 22 by Durovigutum

These should be pinned

On the forehead of everyone still socialising!


I’m not sure everyone still socialising would entirely understand the scale on the y-axis.
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