| LedByDonkeys have this covered (AKA Callis and Sparks tiff thread) 19:28 - May 24 with 1274 views | GeoffSentence |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:30 - May 24 with 1249 views | monytowbray |
The real crime here is the journalists. Sparks said so. |  |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:32 - May 24 with 1232 views | sparks |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:30 - May 24 by monytowbray |
The real crime here is the journalists. Sparks said so. |
Enough of the dishonesty please. |  |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:34 - May 24 with 1207 views | m14_blue |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:30 - May 24 by monytowbray |
The real crime here is the journalists. Sparks said so. |
Sparks and people like him aren’t the enemy Callis, you should stop treating them that way.
You’ve raised some good points throughout this crisis but it’s no wonder they can get a bit lost in the maelstrom of lashing out at everyone who doesn’t think in exactly the same way. |  | | |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:39 - May 24 with 1188 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:32 - May 24 by sparks |
Enough of the dishonesty please. |
I'll give you that one seeing as you finally just cleared up the matter. | |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:39 - May 24 with 1185 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:34 - May 24 by m14_blue |
Sparks and people like him aren’t the enemy Callis, you should stop treating them that way.
You’ve raised some good points throughout this crisis but it’s no wonder they can get a bit lost in the maelstrom of lashing out at everyone who doesn’t think in exactly the same way. |
I don't lash out at everyone. My time here has been pretty chill in recent weeks. Sparks admitted on another thread he's literally out for the wind up points so meh. | |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:51 - May 24 with 1149 views | sparks |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:39 - May 24 by monytowbray |
I don't lash out at everyone. My time here has been pretty chill in recent weeks. Sparks admitted on another thread he's literally out for the wind up points so meh. |
Quote that comment please.
Your dishonesty is disgusting. | |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:57 - May 24 with 1126 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:51 - May 24 by sparks |
Quote that comment please.
Your dishonesty is disgusting. |
"Im not upset- but I do take a perversepleasure in trying to nail down someone being as slippery and disingenuous as you appear to be.
Perhaps, though, that is unfair- and what i am unwittingly doing is baffling someone genuinely unable to understand what is being said as opposed to what he thinks he'd like to argue about."
What have I said that's slippery and disingenuous? As I've just said in the other thread, life is easier when you just explain yourself and correct people. I've accepted your justification for posting the other thread. Now please, politely f*ck off. | |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:05 - May 24 with 1106 views | sparks |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 19:57 - May 24 by monytowbray |
"Im not upset- but I do take a perversepleasure in trying to nail down someone being as slippery and disingenuous as you appear to be.
Perhaps, though, that is unfair- and what i am unwittingly doing is baffling someone genuinely unable to understand what is being said as opposed to what he thinks he'd like to argue about."
What have I said that's slippery and disingenuous? As I've just said in the other thread, life is easier when you just explain yourself and correct people. I've accepted your justification for posting the other thread. Now please, politely f*ck off. |
Thank you. You have demontrated, quite clearly, that i did not say what you claim. Again.
Any chance you would quit the dishonesty, quit the sniping in a growing number of unconnected threads, and quit the abuse- which has now included two F Offs, one "prick" and several "bootlickers"? [Post edited 24 May 2020 20:07]
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:13 - May 24 with 1041 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:05 - May 24 by sparks |
Thank you. You have demontrated, quite clearly, that i did not say what you claim. Again.
Any chance you would quit the dishonesty, quit the sniping in a growing number of unconnected threads, and quit the abuse- which has now included two F Offs, one "prick" and several "bootlickers"? [Post edited 24 May 2020 20:07]
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Sparks. This can't carry on. Surely you're bored by now.
My advice - life would be easier if you just explained why you feel you are not a bootlicker the first time I said it rather than insisting I justify why you are not a bootlicker for multiple pages and pretending you're in court. | |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:16 - May 24 with 1027 views | sparks |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:13 - May 24 by monytowbray |
Sparks. This can't carry on. Surely you're bored by now.
My advice - life would be easier if you just explained why you feel you are not a bootlicker the first time I said it rather than insisting I justify why you are not a bootlicker for multiple pages and pretending you're in court. |
I agree entirely that it helps to eplain things. Which is why you get asked to explain why you say stuff. And why people get exasperated when you spend two pages evading straight questions, before getting abusive and claiming you arent playing another person's game...
Its not for the person accused to figure out the argument and respond. You have to explain what the hell you are on about and why. repeatedly, you avoid that because when you look back, you realise that the posts did not say what you wanted them to say or thought they said. | |
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| LedByDonkeys have this covered (AKA Callis and Sparks tiff thread) on 20:18 - May 24 with 1021 views | SpruceMoose |
This scrap has been going on so long now I think it deserves it's own forum!
Football, General, Rolling Scraps and Feuds. [Post edited 24 May 2020 20:24]
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:23 - May 24 with 991 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:16 - May 24 by sparks |
I agree entirely that it helps to eplain things. Which is why you get asked to explain why you say stuff. And why people get exasperated when you spend two pages evading straight questions, before getting abusive and claiming you arent playing another person's game...
Its not for the person accused to figure out the argument and respond. You have to explain what the hell you are on about and why. repeatedly, you avoid that because when you look back, you realise that the posts did not say what you wanted them to say or thought they said. |
I answered your questions. All you had to say was "I didn't post this as a distraction, it's just a side take" or something like that. Done.
The rest of the post is just gibberish. You move the goal posts repeatedly with your questioning and your angle. This all started because you wanted me to go off and provide an essay on Lowhouse's past posts and context of my remarks to him. Now look where we are.
No one won this, what a waste of both our f*cking times. | |
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| LedByDonkeys have this covered (AKA Callis and Sparks tiff thread) on 20:33 - May 24 with 957 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
That's been done today. |  |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:39 - May 24 with 942 views | sparks |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:23 - May 24 by monytowbray |
I answered your questions. All you had to say was "I didn't post this as a distraction, it's just a side take" or something like that. Done.
The rest of the post is just gibberish. You move the goal posts repeatedly with your questioning and your angle. This all started because you wanted me to go off and provide an essay on Lowhouse's past posts and context of my remarks to him. Now look where we are.
No one won this, what a waste of both our f*cking times. |
No Callis- one needs to understand and be clear what is being said before one can respond. One also needs to ensure that specifics are set out- so that goalposts are not moved after a response.
I think you are purposely vague when you realise your position is questionable. Certainly- that appearance is often created. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:51 - May 24 with 903 views | monytowbray |
| LionsLedByDonkeys have this covered on 20:39 - May 24 by sparks |
No Callis- one needs to understand and be clear what is being said before one can respond. One also needs to ensure that specifics are set out- so that goalposts are not moved after a response.
I think you are purposely vague when you realise your position is questionable. Certainly- that appearance is often created. |
So if the Lowhouse matter wasn't clear to you to begin with, why pile in with your hot take on me without all the evidence to form an opinion? Because that's what you did.
'Not once has Callis had the integrity to actually specify what he is objecting to- despite being repeatedly challenged on it. Same old embarrassing nonsense."
I somehow don't think you're that bothered in the history of this forum to unblock a poster and educate yourself. So it looks like an excuse for an argument to me.
The problem with continually calling out the other side is it makes you so subservient to the side doing wrong and winning. There are times and places for it for sure, but you have to wonder why those who claim to be centre left take more issue with the left than the right wing to the point of rigging an election. Lowhouse is subservient in this and doesn't even realise it. Same logic applies to the journalist thread.
When you account for wider context more things make sense. It's not about getting a case file together to make a point.
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To add, Lowhouse tends to actually agree on most issues as me at a core, and his disagreement with any of the lefty bum fests is often his frustration or dislike of how one makes a point. Surely, if someone's right in your view, who gives a sh1t how they make their point so long as they can justify it?
He took massive issue with me saying the current government are fascists as if it's some kind of buzz word and I shared this with him whilst saying look down the list and tell me which points we aren't heading towards already: https://forward.com/fast-forward/361808/holocaust-museum-poster-listing-fascisms
What good does this do anyone to argue against that? I don't pile in his threads I agree with to change the subject to a personal matter yet he does it continually.
There's some more context for you on why I responded the way I did. [Post edited 24 May 2020 21:01]
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