| I mean you have to laugh at us a little 13:26 - Aug 15 with 1242 views | OriginalMarkyP |
Paul Hurst Thank you for giving us our club back
lose a lot.
Paul Hurst Oooh I hate you, you little evil Midget! Get out of my club!
Paul Lambert thank you for giving us our club back!!
Loses a lot.
Paul Lambert everyone hates you and your big red nose and big clubs, get out of my club!!!
Paul Cook thank you for giving us our club back!!!
Loses a lot.
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:36 - Aug 15 with 1151 views | Ryorry |
Calling 2 games "a lot" is re-defining the English language. |  |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:37 - Aug 15 with 1140 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:36 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
Calling 2 games "a lot" is re-defining the English language. |
he was here last season. No point rewriting history. | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:38 - Aug 15 with 1130 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:36 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
Calling 2 games "a lot" is re-defining the English language. |
he was here last season. No point rewriting history.
W4 D8 L7 | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:41 - Aug 15 with 1101 views | Ryorry |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:37 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
he was here last season. No point rewriting history. |
Sigh. With a squad of unfit flip-flops that weren't his own, a clueless owner who didn't care, and a "support" structure that was unfit for purpose (fitness coach working remotely from 400 miles away etc. etc. etc.).
Been through all that so many times now. | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:41 - Aug 15 with 1099 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:36 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
Calling 2 games "a lot" is re-defining the English language. |
in fact he's had more games than Hurst.
Hurst w1 d7 l7
Cook W4 D8 l7
just to be accurate | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:42 - Aug 15 with 1085 views | Ryorry |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:41 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
in fact he's had more games than Hurst.
Hurst w1 d7 l7
Cook W4 D8 l7
just to be accurate |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:42 - Aug 15 with 1080 views | Bluesky |
Paul the other one. |  | | |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:45 - Aug 15 with 1058 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:41 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
Sigh. With a squad of unfit flip-flops that weren't his own, a clueless owner who didn't care, and a "support" structure that was unfit for purpose (fitness coach working remotely from 400 miles away etc. etc. etc.).
Been through all that so many times now. |
But football is about RESULTS. Nothing else. When people look back at his ipswich record they won't go 'Oh those games don't count.'
I hope he succeeds. But you can recognise the pattern. And you judge accordingly. Faith is great. But blind faith not so much. Cook said as much in his last interview if you listen to it back. | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:47 - Aug 15 with 1037 views | chrismakin |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:45 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
But football is about RESULTS. Nothing else. When people look back at his ipswich record they won't go 'Oh those games don't count.'
I hope he succeeds. But you can recognise the pattern. And you judge accordingly. Faith is great. But blind faith not so much. Cook said as much in his last interview if you listen to it back. |
So like I asked the others
Are you saying Cook out?
If not, what is the point you are putting across? |  |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:51 - Aug 15 with 1012 views | Ryorry |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:45 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
But football is about RESULTS. Nothing else. When people look back at his ipswich record they won't go 'Oh those games don't count.'
I hope he succeeds. But you can recognise the pattern. And you judge accordingly. Faith is great. But blind faith not so much. Cook said as much in his last interview if you listen to it back. |
Fine, you keep on ignoring the fact that we've undergone a seachange over the summer.
For myself I'm happy to recognise the reality & keep on backing our manager in these very, very early days of him having his own squad (*edit - which isn't even complete yet*), cheers 👠[Post edited 15 Aug 2021 13:52]
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:54 - Aug 15 with 987 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:47 - Aug 15 by chrismakin |
So like I asked the others
Are you saying Cook out?
If not, what is the point you are putting across? |
No. Not Cook out.
I've not been an outer for any of our previous managers.
Im just accepting the pattern.
My OP if you read it is more an observation about us as fans rather than our managers. We give them this sort of blind faith and then turn on them. Neither Pole of that behaviour is particularly healthy. and that's down to us the fans, not the managers.
I think for now, PC is entrenched. He's bought in all these players. if you boot him you'd probably have a new guy come in and demand yet another clearout. it would be disastrous.
And that's what we'll be looking at if Cook continues to fail. Ashton will cut him adrift quicker than you can say 'arun towards adversity' and we be in a proper mess. So he HAS to succeed. [Post edited 15 Aug 2021 13:55]
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:56 - Aug 15 with 973 views | ElephantintheRoom |
A succinct and accurate assessment.
You could add in the changes of ownership since Sheepy destroyed the club....
Consumate international billionaire businesman, Marcus Evans who was nowhere to be seen buys the club for peanuts and is welcomed with open arms..... until he remains unseen - and doesnt appear to have very much money at all
Dynamic trio 'The Three Lions' are welcomed with open arms despite not not being seen and not actually owning the club and each having two thirds of the club less than 'thank God he's gone' Marcus Evans..... |  |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:58 - Aug 15 with 952 views | chrismakin |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:54 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
No. Not Cook out.
I've not been an outer for any of our previous managers.
Im just accepting the pattern.
My OP if you read it is more an observation about us as fans rather than our managers. We give them this sort of blind faith and then turn on them. Neither Pole of that behaviour is particularly healthy. and that's down to us the fans, not the managers.
I think for now, PC is entrenched. He's bought in all these players. if you boot him you'd probably have a new guy come in and demand yet another clearout. it would be disastrous.
And that's what we'll be looking at if Cook continues to fail. Ashton will cut him adrift quicker than you can say 'arun towards adversity' and we be in a proper mess. So he HAS to succeed. [Post edited 15 Aug 2021 13:55]
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But saying supporters have blind faith is wrong. Our jobs as a supporter is to support the club, that includes manager, players and staff.
Just because it didn't turn out great with previous managers.. does that mean we should never trust a manager again? | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:00 - Aug 15 with 936 views | Darth_Koont |
If you think that’s bad, I remember when we gave the worst abuse to a manager who kept us in midtable of the Championship on a bottom-6 budget and added millions to the value of the squad ...
Everything has been projection and self-deception ever since.
Having said that, we need to give Cook time. He didn’t have the Midas touch when he came in but this is now a totally new team and squad. I won’t get carried away while results aren’t coming but neither will I get carried away if he wins the next three or four on the bounce. We’re looking for a much stronger team to build and develop than we’ve had for the past 3 years, and the sort of team that can last the distance. |  |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:02 - Aug 15 with 916 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 13:58 - Aug 15 by chrismakin |
But saying supporters have blind faith is wrong. Our jobs as a supporter is to support the club, that includes manager, players and staff.
Just because it didn't turn out great with previous managers.. does that mean we should never trust a manager again? |
Nothing wrong with trusting the manager.
I trust the manager. But equally I won't hold him above criticism.
For some he can do no wrong. And that's not healthy, because no one can meet those expectations. | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:06 - Aug 15 with 898 views | Darth_Koont |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:02 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
Nothing wrong with trusting the manager.
I trust the manager. But equally I won't hold him above criticism.
For some he can do no wrong. And that's not healthy, because no one can meet those expectations. |
True but on the current sample size, I’m not sure what Cook is doing wrong except not winning a couple of games we could have won.
If this was a continuation of last season and Cook still wasn’t getting a tune out of those same players then there’d be a lot to discuss. | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:08 - Aug 15 with 877 views | Ryorry |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:02 - Aug 15 by OriginalMarkyP |
Nothing wrong with trusting the manager.
I trust the manager. But equally I won't hold him above criticism.
For some he can do no wrong. And that's not healthy, because no one can meet those expectations. |
But no-one (unless I've missed something) has said that they "hold him above criticism", let alone that "he can do no wrong"  | |
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| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:12 - Aug 15 with 854 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| I mean you have to laugh at us a little on 14:08 - Aug 15 by Ryorry |
But no-one (unless I've missed something) has said that they "hold him above criticism", let alone that "he can do no wrong" |
They might not have said it but there are plenty on here who jump on the first word of perceived criticism they see | |
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