| I really do wonder if Cook... 19:58 - Aug 21 with 1318 views | OriginalMarkyP |
...is going to keep going without getting some help on the coaching staff side of things. It seems obvious to me.
You watch us, we put together nice passages of play when talented players link up and use their undoubted ability.
BUT too often the players look disorganised, or playing off the cuff. Just feels like we need someone to come in and coach them to keep their shape better.
I've seen a fair amount of criticism on here for Wolfenden. He actually had a good game today, bailed out KVY several times. And Evans infront of him. Yes, he gave away a daft freekick for their first goal. But that should've been saved and he made considerably less mistakes that KVY, about the same as Coulson, and looks a better player with Burgess alongside him.
The problem (for me) is defensive coaching or lack of it.
Jeffers - forward.
Craney - midfield.
Roberts - attacking mid/winger
Cook - midfield.
It feels like you need someone who is a specialist defensive coach in there.
Now what position did Leam RIchardson play?...right back.
Obviously it can't be him. But we need someone. [Post edited 21 Aug 2021 19:59]
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:08 - Aug 21 with 1243 views | Keaneish |
I don’t agree, I think our defensive shape is fine and we have ample coaches. Individual mistakes aren’t down to defensive shape, just poor choices from players that Cook can stamp out.
The three goals we’ve conceded which you could argue are because of shape are the two at Burton and the first against Cheltenham.
Burton first - the free kick was taken too far forward but we should have stood in the ball preventing the free kick knowing KVY needed to recover his position. Easily avoidable.
Burton second - gave away possession in a silly area but we had enough bodies back to defend it before the pen so it should have been dealt with before it got to Penney. Burgess will have stamped this out I reckon.
Cheltenham first - yep, poor communication between Burgess and Penney rather than positions for me but it was the first time they’d played together to be fairl. |  |
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:08 - Aug 21 with 1237 views | Churchman |
Burley was a full back. Roberts was a centre half if my memory serves me right. Robson was a midfielder, Ferguson a goalie. Cyril Lea? Not sure but I don’t think he was a forward.
I don’t think there is necessarily any correlation between coaches’ former roles in a team or their footballing ability and their current job. They all know football, having been in it for decades.
All this he needs help or Richardson was really the manager stuff is nonsense for me. The Manager is just that. He chooses his staff and that’s an end of it. He is accountable for results, end of. |  | | |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:13 - Aug 21 with 1204 views | nshearman1 |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:08 - Aug 21 by Churchman |
Burley was a full back. Roberts was a centre half if my memory serves me right. Robson was a midfielder, Ferguson a goalie. Cyril Lea? Not sure but I don’t think he was a forward.
I don’t think there is necessarily any correlation between coaches’ former roles in a team or their footballing ability and their current job. They all know football, having been in it for decades.
All this he needs help or Richardson was really the manager stuff is nonsense for me. The Manager is just that. He chooses his staff and that’s an end of it. He is accountable for results, end of. |
He chose a kitman and a retiring player with no coaching experience. In that sense, their former roles are indeed somewhat relevant. |  | | |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:16 - Aug 21 with 1187 views | RonFearonsHair |
Perhaps a defender who played for Ipswich at a higher level so already knows the club, maybe who is still based in the area and has recently worked locally. Someone with excellent experience of coaching and perhaps even managing players. Bonus points if he happens to be a scouser of course.
Hmm... I'm stumped. |  | | |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:23 - Aug 21 with 1155 views | CokeIsKey |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:08 - Aug 21 by Churchman |
Burley was a full back. Roberts was a centre half if my memory serves me right. Robson was a midfielder, Ferguson a goalie. Cyril Lea? Not sure but I don’t think he was a forward.
I don’t think there is necessarily any correlation between coaches’ former roles in a team or their footballing ability and their current job. They all know football, having been in it for decades.
All this he needs help or Richardson was really the manager stuff is nonsense for me. The Manager is just that. He chooses his staff and that’s an end of it. He is accountable for results, end of. |
If Leam Richardson was no help to Cook then why is his team currently 11 places above us in the table? |  |
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:45 - Aug 21 with 1013 views | Churchman |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:13 - Aug 21 by nshearman1 |
He chose a kitman and a retiring player with no coaching experience. In that sense, their former roles are indeed somewhat relevant. |
Cook said he wasn’t the kit man. Are you calling him a liar? | | | |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:05 - Aug 21 with 955 views | nshearman1 |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:45 - Aug 21 by Churchman |
Cook said he wasn’t the kit man. Are you calling him a liar? |
He said he was a bit more than a kitman. He said he delivered enthusiasm and positive energy. That's not tactical genius. Do you really think the coaching team is even adequate? I have no overall problem with what Cook's doing, indeed I'm all for most of it, we're fantastically more exciting than we have been for years and years, but in no matches so far have we shown the ability to adapt to adversity, change tactics effectively or defend in depth. | | | |
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:08 - Aug 21 with 940 views | Vic |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:13 - Aug 21 by nshearman1 |
He chose a kitman and a retiring player with no coaching experience. In that sense, their former roles are indeed somewhat relevant. |
He wasn’t a kit man though. That’s an easy stick to beat him with but it’s not actually true.
Doesn’t make him a good coach either, and the lack of improvement in results does make you wonder if there is an issue with the coaching. |  |
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:11 - Aug 21 with 919 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 20:23 - Aug 21 by CokeIsKey |
If Leam Richardson was no help to Cook then why is his team currently 11 places above us in the table? |
You say that like it's some massive gap. It's five points. After four games. |  |
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| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:23 - Aug 21 with 880 views | Churchman |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:05 - Aug 21 by nshearman1 |
He said he was a bit more than a kitman. He said he delivered enthusiasm and positive energy. That's not tactical genius. Do you really think the coaching team is even adequate? I have no overall problem with what Cook's doing, indeed I'm all for most of it, we're fantastically more exciting than we have been for years and years, but in no matches so far have we shown the ability to adapt to adversity, change tactics effectively or defend in depth. |
No he didn’t. He said that they had to give him that title to get him on to the staff. Not the same thing as you imply. You are just using that as a stick to beat Cook with.
The role of coaches seems to vary from manager to manager. For Ferguson, it was a yes man. For Lyall, much the same in his first couple of years at the club. Somebody to bounce ideas off and support him. It varies. If a manager wants the team to play a certain way, since when did a coach decide otherwise?
I couldn’t care a less whether the coach is Attila the Hun or a tin of beans. It’s the manager’s staff to do with as he pleases. If a team wins or succeeds over a season, the manager gets the credit. If they fail, he gets the can. By and large, the coaches are baggage that come and go with the manager.
As for your confidence in Cook, time will tell. He deserves that time, but we should be a lot better than second best at home to MK Dons. | | | |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 22:36 - Aug 21 with 687 views | nshearman1 |
| I really do wonder if Cook... on 21:23 - Aug 21 by Churchman |
No he didn’t. He said that they had to give him that title to get him on to the staff. Not the same thing as you imply. You are just using that as a stick to beat Cook with.
The role of coaches seems to vary from manager to manager. For Ferguson, it was a yes man. For Lyall, much the same in his first couple of years at the club. Somebody to bounce ideas off and support him. It varies. If a manager wants the team to play a certain way, since when did a coach decide otherwise?
I couldn’t care a less whether the coach is Attila the Hun or a tin of beans. It’s the manager’s staff to do with as he pleases. If a team wins or succeeds over a season, the manager gets the credit. If they fail, he gets the can. By and large, the coaches are baggage that come and go with the manager.
As for your confidence in Cook, time will tell. He deserves that time, but we should be a lot better than second best at home to MK Dons. |
Well I agree with your last para. Of course Managers are in ultimate charge. But assistants often provide the tactical nous and advice they need, right back to Taylor and Clough but right up to Mick and Terry Connor. | | | |
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