| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:34 - Oct 9 with 862 views | mikeybloo88 |
Is that really true? The UK, along with many countries, has been taking the Saudi dollar for many a year...a high profile football club sale with accompanying media whipped frenzy doesn't mean we've suddenly become pariahs in the world, no matter how much some would like that to be the story. |  | |  |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:51 - Oct 9 with 840 views | noggin |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:34 - Oct 9 by mikeybloo88 |
Is that really true? The UK, along with many countries, has been taking the Saudi dollar for many a year...a high profile football club sale with accompanying media whipped frenzy doesn't mean we've suddenly become pariahs in the world, no matter how much some would like that to be the story. |
Isn't that what the story is saying? Britain has always turned a blind eye to human rights abuses where making dirty money is involved. [Post edited 9 Oct 2021 8:54]
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:53 - Oct 9 with 835 views | Darth_Koont |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:34 - Oct 9 by mikeybloo88 |
Is that really true? The UK, along with many countries, has been taking the Saudi dollar for many a year...a high profile football club sale with accompanying media whipped frenzy doesn't mean we've suddenly become pariahs in the world, no matter how much some would like that to be the story. |
Indeed.
And imagine the outrage when people realise that we arm the Saudis and train their pilots to drop bombs on Yemeni civilians. |  |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:55 - Oct 9 with 831 views | noggin |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:53 - Oct 9 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed.
And imagine the outrage when people realise that we arm the Saudis and train their pilots to drop bombs on Yemeni civilians. |
The Yemenis are just poor brown people so it doesn't matter. | |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 09:04 - Oct 9 with 809 views | Darth_Koont |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:55 - Oct 9 by noggin |
The Yemenis are just poor brown people so it doesn't matter. |
Exactly. What’s in it for us?
Ditto the Palestinians, Rohingya and others. At least the Uyghurs became a stick to beat the Chinese with. | |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 10:31 - Oct 9 with 705 views | Ryorry |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:34 - Oct 9 by mikeybloo88 |
Is that really true? The UK, along with many countries, has been taking the Saudi dollar for many a year...a high profile football club sale with accompanying media whipped frenzy doesn't mean we've suddenly become pariahs in the world, no matter how much some would like that to be the story. |
Looks like you haven't read the article. |  |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 10:59 - Oct 9 with 675 views | Whos_blue |
I thought this comment from a fan was very powerful:
I want to think that this is how I would feel too.
"I have been a Newcastle fan for over 25 years, and yesterday, with a heavy heart, I had to call time on that relationship. Like all Newcastle fans, I have experienced some good times, some exciting times, some embarrassing times and some infuriating times. I have been inspired by Sir John Hall and Kevin Keegan, sickened by Douglas Hall and Freddy Fletcher, moved to tears by Sir Bobby Robson. I have leapt out of my seat and sprinted round my dining room table after an Alan Shearer hat-trick, have laughed in disbelief at the skills of Tino Asprilla and Hatem Ben Arfa, howled in frustration at Paul Kitson and Joelinton, shook my head in disbelief that anyone would buy Silvio Maric or Jesus Gamez. This has been a major part of my life for most of my life, but it's over now.
Like everyone else, I wanted Mike Ashley gone. But not at any cost. Ashley is a purveyor of unremarkable sporting goods who didn't invest enough in the team or support managers enough. The new owners commit war crimes and murder journalists. I can't be a part of this any more.
There will be a lot of Newcastle fans who will look at this regime in the same way, but conclude they cannot just turn off their support like a tap and will carry on. I can understand that position. As we saw on TV yesterday though, there are many more who just don't give a sh1t. As Nick Hornby wrote in Fever Pitch when writing about the aftermath of Heysel "Nothing ever matters, except football." I watched with disbelief and anger on Sky News yesterday evening as a member of the NUST tried to blame Amnesty International for the fact that Newcastle fans don't care about where the money is coming from, because "they haven't been informed well enough by the likes of Amnesty." Warren Barton then followed up with "of course human rights are very important, we all care massively about human rights" while saying how delighted he was with the Saudis taking over.
I am sure many Newcastle fans, like Man City and Chelsea fans before them, will play the 'loyal fans support the club no matter what' card. I have supported Newcastle through heartbreak, misery, boredom and drudgery like they all have. But I can't support this. I don't know how it is going to be watching Premier League football from now on, I have never been in this situation before. Am I going to instinctively cheer when they win? How will I feel when one of the world's best players suddenly finds Newcastle "an interesting project"? I guess we will see. But today I shed a tear for the last 25 years, and for those who will continue to suffer at the hands of those being so heartily welcomed in Newcastle yesterday." |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 14:51 - Oct 9 with 561 views | factual_blue |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 08:34 - Oct 9 by mikeybloo88 |
Is that really true? The UK, along with many countries, has been taking the Saudi dollar for many a year...a high profile football club sale with accompanying media whipped frenzy doesn't mean we've suddenly become pariahs in the world, no matter how much some would like that to be the story. |
'taking the Saudi Riyal' |  |
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| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 16:19 - Oct 9 with 495 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 10:31 - Oct 9 by Ryorry |
Looks like you haven't read the article. |
I don't read anything in the Guardian other than the restaurant reviews...I was just querying the claim we have become diminished because of the NU sale as its not like we've been shining beacons of virtue..we've been as bad as many others in terms of dealing with SA so I doubt we can be diminished further. | | | |
| Sale of NU to Saudis ...points to England’s practically and morally diminished on 16:31 - Oct 9 with 481 views | Swansea_Blue |
I realised it was a lost cause and we're a bunch of hypocrites after the West did the square root of eff all after China invaded Tibet. Not that I was around at the time, but when I was younger I could never understand why nobody cared enough about that to do anything about it.
Nothing changes. Look at all the high street banks, pension funds and recent Govts (blue, red and yellow) that have invested in arms, in fossil fuel companies and in places with appalling human rights issues. As the article says "at every turn...we have allowed the private to trump the public". We're happy to sacrifice literally anything at the altar of money and profit. Even more bizarrely, that sacrifice doesn't really reward us (only slightly) but is mostly for the benefit of others. |  |
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