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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 09:30 - Nov 8 with 700 viewsHerbivore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-59199484

Apparently delegates representing the fossil fuel industry outnumber the delegates from any one single nation. Why are they allowing such a strong voice from those who are very much part of the problem? It seems rather odd and suggests that, for all the talk, we're going to end up with business as usual when all is said and done.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:41 - Nov 8 with 659 viewschicoazul

You seem surprised. All it is, is a talking shop. Blah blah blah as I believe the kids say these days.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:42 - Nov 8 with 648 viewsHerbivore

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:41 - Nov 8 by chicoazul

You seem surprised. All it is, is a talking shop. Blah blah blah as I believe the kids say these days.


Not surprised, sadly, but disappointed.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:43 - Nov 8 with 647 viewsFtnfwest

I guess otherwise it would be a bit of a 'we'll get back to you once we've spoken to them type meeting'. If there's a problem isn't better to have the one's causing it there?
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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:44 - Nov 8 with 646 viewschicoazul

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:42 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

Not surprised, sadly, but disappointed.


I mean on the one hand if we are imposing huge structural change that will directly affect Shell and Exon, and our pensions are invested in them, then I can understand why they’d be there. On the other hand it’s a bad look.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:58 - Nov 8 with 629 viewsHerbivore

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:43 - Nov 8 by Ftnfwest

I guess otherwise it would be a bit of a 'we'll get back to you once we've spoken to them type meeting'. If there's a problem isn't better to have the one's causing it there?


Not really, no. You wouldn't invite a mass murderer to sit on their own jury.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:00 - Nov 8 with 615 viewsFtnfwest

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:58 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

Not really, no. You wouldn't invite a mass murderer to sit on their own jury.


well no, but in this instance its all a bit 'blah blah' if the people who could help solve the problem aren't there
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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:01 - Nov 8 with 613 viewsHerbivore

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:44 - Nov 8 by chicoazul

I mean on the one hand if we are imposing huge structural change that will directly affect Shell and Exon, and our pensions are invested in them, then I can understand why they’d be there. On the other hand it’s a bad look.


They have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo for as long as possible so I'm not sure it makes sense for them to be there. Decisions relating to climate change need to be based on the science, not on the interests of the fossil fuel industry.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:03 - Nov 8 with 596 viewsKeno

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 09:58 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

Not really, no. You wouldn't invite a mass murderer to sit on their own jury.


or ask a Tory MP to police an MP ethnics committee?

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:06 - Nov 8 with 591 viewshomer_123

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:01 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

They have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo for as long as possible so I'm not sure it makes sense for them to be there. Decisions relating to climate change need to be based on the science, not on the interests of the fossil fuel industry.


Yes, agree with that Herbs - though I don't have an issue with them attending....at the end of the day, you'd rather want them working with you on change than actively working against you.

The more you involve and engage with them, the more likely you are to be able to get them to change and the outcome we all need.

That said the new Cumbrian Coal Mine for the steel industry does rather, again, smack of rather stupid thinking and planning.....

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:51 - Nov 8 with 525 viewsHerbivore

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:00 - Nov 8 by Ftnfwest

well no, but in this instance its all a bit 'blah blah' if the people who could help solve the problem aren't there


They are the people causing the problem, not the people who can help solve it. It's not in their interests for the planet to radically cut down use of fossil fuels. Those who can make that happen are political leaders, it shouldn't be a negotiation with the fossil fuel industry, it should be world governments setting clear red lines.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:03 - Nov 8 by Keno

or ask a Tory MP to police an MP ethnics committee?


I'm a bit worried about what an Ethnics Committee might be up to Kenneth.

As you should be, with your diverse heritage.

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Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 11:24 - Nov 8 with 466 viewsFtnfwest

Interesting study on delegates at COP 26 on 10:51 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

They are the people causing the problem, not the people who can help solve it. It's not in their interests for the planet to radically cut down use of fossil fuels. Those who can make that happen are political leaders, it shouldn't be a negotiation with the fossil fuel industry, it should be world governments setting clear red lines.


We're all causing the problem. Less demand would mean less extraction although at the same time it's very much in their interests to evolve into greener alternatives, which i'd hope is what this thing is partly involved in progressing. As for the political leaders, they were all invited...
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