| Clubs don't like making signings in January 11:09 - Feb 1 with 1090 views | Bobbychase |
Here's a breakdown of all the transfer activity by Premier League clubs - the ones with more money to spend than the rest of us - this window. Posting this because of the anguish from some on Twitter that we didn't do more business this window.
As far as I can see, we mirrored what a lot of the top clubs did. We cleared the decks using the loan market, getting fringe players some game, and had far more outgoings than we did incomings.
Smart clubs do their business in the summer.
ARSENAL
No incomings
11 outgoings (almost all of them loans)
ASTON VILLA
Four incomings
12 outgoings (all loans)
BRENTFORD
Two in
Three out (all loans)
BRIGHTON
Two in
Nine outgoings (most of them loans)
BURNLEY
One in
Three out (two of them loans)
CHELSEA
One in
Five out (four of them loans)
CRYSTAL PALACE
Two in
Six out
EVERTON
Five in
Three out
LEEDS
One in
Two out (both loans)
LEICESTER
No incomings
Five out (three loans)
LIVERPOOL
One in
Four out
MANCHESTER CITY
One in
11 out (mostly loans or free transfers)
MANCHESTER UNITED
No incomings
Seven outgoings (all loans)
NEWCASTLE
Five incoming
Seven outgoings (all but one of them loans)
NORWICH
No incomings
Nine outgoings (all but one loans)
SOUTHAMPTON
No incomings
Four outgoings (all loans)
TOTTENHAM
One in
Seven out (all but one of them loans)
WATFORD
Three in
One out (loan)
WEST HAM
No incomings
Two outgoings (both loans)
WOLVES
Three incomings
Seven outgoings (all loans apart from one).
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:38 - Feb 1 with 1003 views | itfcjoe |
I don't think we can really be comparing ourselves with PL clubs - regardless of your point I'd be more interested in seeing what the 'smart clubs' in League 1 and League 2 have done |  |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:54 - Feb 1 with 948 views | Bobbychase |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:38 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe |
I don't think we can really be comparing ourselves with PL clubs - regardless of your point I'd be more interested in seeing what the 'smart clubs' in League 1 and League 2 have done |
I deliberately compared us with Premier League clubs, because even they with their vast riches, don't make many signings in January.
Every single Prem Club released more players than they brought in.
If the clubs at the top, who are swimming in money compared to the ones in the EFL, keep their powder largely dry in January, why do fans expect ITFC to splash the cash with the far stricter rules we have to abide by?
We've had a very good window. We signed Walton - our best keeper since Bart - permanently, kept our top scorer for the rest of the season and added Premier League cover to one of our problematic positions.
But because we didn't feature on the Sky Sports tickertape yesterday it's somehow a disaster.
I despair. | |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:09 - Feb 1 with 880 views | stonojnr |
Wenger always said he never signed players in Jan as a rule as they took the remainder of the season to synch with your existing squad and contribute effectively.
It's only the media who create this drama about it, "transfer window slams shut", no it didn't it shut at exactly the time that was stated it would after being open for quite a while so why on earth would clubs be waiting till the last second to do deals. |  | | |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:16 - Feb 1 with 855 views | HighgateBlue |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:54 - Feb 1 by Bobbychase |
I deliberately compared us with Premier League clubs, because even they with their vast riches, don't make many signings in January.
Every single Prem Club released more players than they brought in.
If the clubs at the top, who are swimming in money compared to the ones in the EFL, keep their powder largely dry in January, why do fans expect ITFC to splash the cash with the far stricter rules we have to abide by?
We've had a very good window. We signed Walton - our best keeper since Bart - permanently, kept our top scorer for the rest of the season and added Premier League cover to one of our problematic positions.
But because we didn't feature on the Sky Sports tickertape yesterday it's somehow a disaster.
I despair. |
I think the recent poll indicates what is often assumed to be the case. The majority view is not the same as those who shout the loudest. There appears to be correlation between those with most time on their hands and those who are the most angry. There may be many different theories as to why that might be the case!
The way I see it, our window has been calculated to allow us to consolidate, trim the fat and allow us to improve steadily. If that gets us in the playoffs, fantastic. If it doesn't, the fault will not lie with those who made transfer decisions during the window. We then need a summer where we consolidate, trim the fat and improve steadily.
The starts to the Hurst and Cook reigns were characterised by lots of comings and goings of players. They did not end well. |  | | |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:52 - Feb 1 with 781 views | itfcjoe |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:54 - Feb 1 by Bobbychase |
I deliberately compared us with Premier League clubs, because even they with their vast riches, don't make many signings in January.
Every single Prem Club released more players than they brought in.
If the clubs at the top, who are swimming in money compared to the ones in the EFL, keep their powder largely dry in January, why do fans expect ITFC to splash the cash with the far stricter rules we have to abide by?
We've had a very good window. We signed Walton - our best keeper since Bart - permanently, kept our top scorer for the rest of the season and added Premier League cover to one of our problematic positions.
But because we didn't feature on the Sky Sports tickertape yesterday it's somehow a disaster.
I despair. |
Comparing any League 1 club to the PL club is just a total waste of time though - it's like comparing an independent shop in the town centre to Tesco.
I haven't looked at the 'smart clubs' at this level, but they are much more relevant to what Arsenal and the likes did in January - they all lost more players because they have nigh on 100 professionals and most are loan moves of players who wouldn't even know where the Emirates is let alone play a game there for the first team | |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:53 - Feb 1 with 775 views | jayessess |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 11:38 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe |
I don't think we can really be comparing ourselves with PL clubs - regardless of your point I'd be more interested in seeing what the 'smart clubs' in League 1 and League 2 have done |
Wigan: 5 in, 1 out.
Rotherham: 3 in, 7 out.
Sunderland: 6 in, 9 out.
Mk Dons: 6 in, 6 out.
Wycombe: 3 in, 2 out.
Oxford: 3 in, 3 out. |  |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:56 - Feb 1 with 767 views | itfcjoe |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:53 - Feb 1 by jayessess |
Wigan: 5 in, 1 out.
Rotherham: 3 in, 7 out.
Sunderland: 6 in, 9 out.
Mk Dons: 6 in, 6 out.
Wycombe: 3 in, 2 out.
Oxford: 3 in, 3 out. |
Looking at that list you'd say the smartest recruiters have been MK who have had quite an active window....but then they've had to react because Ethan Laird was recalled so they had to replace him.
Had Walton and Bonne been recalled we'd have ended up with more incomings as a necessity - the window was fine, but not much really changed - the squad has been weakened but it is still a good big squad for this level | |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:00 - Feb 1 with 746 views | Darth_Koont |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:53 - Feb 1 by jayessess |
Wigan: 5 in, 1 out.
Rotherham: 3 in, 7 out.
Sunderland: 6 in, 9 out.
Mk Dons: 6 in, 6 out.
Wycombe: 3 in, 2 out.
Oxford: 3 in, 3 out. |
That’s good for us.
We’re at the stage of the season (and distance from the play-offs) where if they zig we need to zag. So if they have to adapt and deal with new players while we’re largely streamlining and simplifying that’s not a bad thing.
We have all the quality we need anyway. It’s always been more. about getting the team as a whole working in defence, attack and the transition between the two. |  |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:13 - Feb 1 with 686 views | jayessess |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:56 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe |
Looking at that list you'd say the smartest recruiters have been MK who have had quite an active window....but then they've had to react because Ethan Laird was recalled so they had to replace him.
Had Walton and Bonne been recalled we'd have ended up with more incomings as a necessity - the window was fine, but not much really changed - the squad has been weakened but it is still a good big squad for this level |
MK Dons outgoings is actually 10, including 5 first team regulars - Andy Fisher, their first team goalkeeper, Ethan Robson and Matt O'Riley (their best 2 midfielders), Peter Kioso, their regular wing back and Max Watters (5 goals in 11 since his return from injury).
Their new recruits better be good... | |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:21 - Feb 1 with 645 views | clive_baker |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:13 - Feb 1 by jayessess |
MK Dons outgoings is actually 10, including 5 first team regulars - Andy Fisher, their first team goalkeeper, Ethan Robson and Matt O'Riley (their best 2 midfielders), Peter Kioso, their regular wing back and Max Watters (5 goals in 11 since his return from injury).
Their new recruits better be good... |
Yep, they've had an interesting window.
O'Riley looks a disappointing blow, as did Fisher, but I don't suppose they can do a lot if Celtic and Sweansea come knocking. Kioso, Watters and Robson were recalled by their parent clubs which is always a risk if loan deals are structured in such a way. As it would have been with Bonne for us.
They've still got some depth though, especially if Connor Wickham finds anything close to the player that used to be in there, pre injuries. Although that's perhaps unlikely.
If we can pick up 6 points from these next 2 games vs. Gillingham and Doncaster then MK Dons should be a cracker, with a huge following. |  |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:22 - Feb 1 with 637 views | Bobbychase |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 12:52 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe |
Comparing any League 1 club to the PL club is just a total waste of time though - it's like comparing an independent shop in the town centre to Tesco.
I haven't looked at the 'smart clubs' at this level, but they are much more relevant to what Arsenal and the likes did in January - they all lost more players because they have nigh on 100 professionals and most are loan moves of players who wouldn't even know where the Emirates is let alone play a game there for the first team |
A lot of those clubs have huge squads - so do we! Far too big | |
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| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:30 - Feb 1 with 617 views | jayessess |
| Clubs don't like making signings in January on 13:21 - Feb 1 by clive_baker |
Yep, they've had an interesting window.
O'Riley looks a disappointing blow, as did Fisher, but I don't suppose they can do a lot if Celtic and Sweansea come knocking. Kioso, Watters and Robson were recalled by their parent clubs which is always a risk if loan deals are structured in such a way. As it would have been with Bonne for us.
They've still got some depth though, especially if Connor Wickham finds anything close to the player that used to be in there, pre injuries. Although that's perhaps unlikely.
If we can pick up 6 points from these next 2 games vs. Gillingham and Doncaster then MK Dons should be a cracker, with a huge following. |
McEachran and Coventry feels like a big downgrade from O'Riley and Robson, but they've just won 2 tricky away games with that centre midfield, so... | |
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