| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... 20:48 - Feb 5 with 2455 views | wkj |
He's been very clear on 'Saturday-Tuesday' games and has been pretty clear on rotating over those games. Today was a worse 90 minutes of footie, but a better result than S.Weds - So I can only assume Tuesday is going to be an improvement.
Aluko and Bonne may very well be back, and I would imagine KVY will be on the right - so we have a stronger team selection already. (In some regards, Burns will always be a huge miss)
A lot of nonsense about fitting players into tactics, but that isn't exactly true. McKenna did something that Cook didn't often do - and that was switch formations mid game. It felt like a traditional 4-4-2 at the end.
McKenna dodged an embarrassing bullet tonight, but the level of negativity floating around 15 points from 21 available is a little bit odd. He's continuing to get results and has yet to throw away a solid lead. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 20:50]
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:49 - Feb 5 with 1775 views | J2BLUE |
Completely agree. Already 1-2 have gone early and are spinning everything into a negative. |  |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:53 - Feb 5 with 1727 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:49 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
Completely agree. Already 1-2 have gone early and are spinning everything into a negative. |
No one has gone early. No one has said anything that isn't true. We've won a nice amount of games without playing well. What is going early is people trying to stamp people as outers despite there being 0 of them.
Imo |  |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:55 - Feb 5 with 1703 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:53 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has gone early. No one has said anything that isn't true. We've won a nice amount of games without playing well. What is going early is people trying to stamp people as outers despite there being 0 of them.
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You'll find it helps not being hyper-critical. Which you are. As others have stated - you didn't do this with Cook, so there is no real need to do it now. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:56 - Feb 5 with 1698 views | Cuffy81 |
He's definitely using the squad. How much influence is Andy Rolls having in who is available is possible the key question.
Hope KVY and Aluko start on Tuesday |  | | |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:57 - Feb 5 with 1682 views | J2BLUE |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:53 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has gone early. No one has said anything that isn't true. We've won a nice amount of games without playing well. What is going early is people trying to stamp people as outers despite there being 0 of them.
Imo |
We're gaining on the play offs. McKenna hasn't been here long and is already picking a line up to beat the opposition each match. Unlike previous managers who have left other teams dictate McKenna is picking a team to win. How else was the game going to go? They are a very poor side who will rely on being organised and hard to beat to grind out points. Hard to play amazing football against that. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:58 - Feb 5 with 1677 views | BarcaBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:53 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has gone early. No one has said anything that isn't true. We've won a nice amount of games without playing well. What is going early is people trying to stamp people as outers despite there being 0 of them.
Imo |
It took you about 30 seconds into his first presser and you've been sniping ever since. You're obviously embarrassed over your Cook flip-flopping, which is fair enough, it was a bit embarrassing. No need now though to try to make up for it. |  | | |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:00 - Feb 5 with 1615 views | Wacko |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:57 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
We're gaining on the play offs. McKenna hasn't been here long and is already picking a line up to beat the opposition each match. Unlike previous managers who have left other teams dictate McKenna is picking a team to win. How else was the game going to go? They are a very poor side who will rely on being organised and hard to beat to grind out points. Hard to play amazing football against that. |
Precisely this. You only have to look at Kidderminster v West Ham for a perfect example | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:01 - Feb 5 with 1608 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:55 - Feb 5 by wkj |
You'll find it helps not being hyper-critical. Which you are. As others have stated - you didn't do this with Cook, so there is no real need to do it now. |
I don't have to blind follow again no. But it's also harder with KM anyway as he has no previous successes to have a trust that it will all end up OK. Hence why its more of a seeing it for how it is presently. Which is result wise excellent. Performance not so much. Hopefully it will balance it out. I like his flexibility in game. You physically can see when things are altered in game. I do have a concern he's trying to do top level things with lower level players and that was always going to be a concern.
But.. result wise, its been an excellent start. Just need to see more of what we did on the ball in the Gills away game | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:01 - Feb 5 with 1611 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:57 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
We're gaining on the play offs. McKenna hasn't been here long and is already picking a line up to beat the opposition each match. Unlike previous managers who have left other teams dictate McKenna is picking a team to win. How else was the game going to go? They are a very poor side who will rely on being organised and hard to beat to grind out points. Hard to play amazing football against that. |
Also, Gillingham has a coup of a manager in Neil Harris. He's very organised, and very successful in this league - I think he'll keep them up quite honestly. As I said earlier, Harris would not have been a bad manager for us either had we signed him, but I feel we got the better deal in KM for our long-term plans. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:04 - Feb 5 with 1578 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:58 - Feb 5 by BarcaBlue |
It took you about 30 seconds into his first presser and you've been sniping ever since. You're obviously embarrassed over your Cook flip-flopping, which is fair enough, it was a bit embarrassing. No need now though to try to make up for it. |
Again I still stand by my first impression. Sorry if that upsets you.
And no not embarrassed. A manager with 3 promotions deserved time. Hindsight is a magical thing isn't it. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:06 - Feb 5 with 1546 views | Illinoisblue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:04 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Again I still stand by my first impression. Sorry if that upsets you.
And no not embarrassed. A manager with 3 promotions deserved time. Hindsight is a magical thing isn't it. |
You stand by slagging off a manager 20 mins into his first presser and before he’d even managed a game? |  |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:08 - Feb 5 with 1510 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:01 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I don't have to blind follow again no. But it's also harder with KM anyway as he has no previous successes to have a trust that it will all end up OK. Hence why its more of a seeing it for how it is presently. Which is result wise excellent. Performance not so much. Hopefully it will balance it out. I like his flexibility in game. You physically can see when things are altered in game. I do have a concern he's trying to do top level things with lower level players and that was always going to be a concern.
But.. result wise, its been an excellent start. Just need to see more of what we did on the ball in the Gills away game |
And so you shall, but not every game. FWIW I do think KM flew too close to the sun without Celina or Aluko starting - and that was a mistake, but results are the only stat that matters right now, and we're getting them.
And again, a lifted Neil Harris side will never be fodder. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:08 - Feb 5 with 1507 views | BarcaBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:04 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Again I still stand by my first impression. Sorry if that upsets you.
And no not embarrassed. A manager with 3 promotions deserved time. Hindsight is a magical thing isn't it. |
Your hindsight changed on a match by match basis. | | | |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:09 - Feb 5 with 1506 views | N2_Blue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 20:49 - Feb 5 by J2BLUE |
Completely agree. Already 1-2 have gone early and are spinning everything into a negative. |
Is this thread really happening, people getting negative about Mckenna already. We may as well give up. |  |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:11 - Feb 5 with 1493 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:09 - Feb 5 by N2_Blue |
Is this thread really happening, people getting negative about Mckenna already. We may as well give up. |
The whole mood has been really off tonight. It was a sh*t game of football, but a great 3 points.
We were gagging for points for months, and now we have a good supply of them - but there is a really weird lingering guff of negativity around KM right now, which is bananas. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 21:13]
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:13 - Feb 5 with 1473 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:06 - Feb 5 by Illinoisblue |
You stand by slagging off a manager 20 mins into his first presser and before he’d even managed a game? |
I stand by a first impression of someone yes. Again sorry if that upsets people.
Have I commented on him since. No. Do I discuss his management of the side yes. Have I been fair about his management yes. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:15 - Feb 5 with 1453 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:08 - Feb 5 by BarcaBlue |
Your hindsight changed on a match by match basis. |
Yeah that tends to happen when you watch football. Happy when you win. Not happy when you lose. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:15 - Feb 5 with 1449 views | Illinoisblue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:13 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I stand by a first impression of someone yes. Again sorry if that upsets people.
Have I commented on him since. No. Do I discuss his management of the side yes. Have I been fair about his management yes. |
Not upset by it, it’s quite funny really. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:17 - Feb 5 with 1432 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:15 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Yeah that tends to happen when you watch football. Happy when you win. Not happy when you lose. |
Then why are you coming over so consistently negative when we're winning more than we lose - that's actually kind of what you'd expect from a Budgie on this forum. Supporting a failing manager to the hilt, but casting considerable doubt over ones getting results. | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:17 - Feb 5 with 1421 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:15 - Feb 5 by Illinoisblue |
Not upset by it, it’s quite funny really. |
Very funny. |  |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:20 - Feb 5 with 1405 views | itfcsuth |
A lot of sense in that post.
I don’t understand the negativity. That is 5 wins in 7 now, whilst taking over a side that had been largely underwhelming and sitting in mid table all season.
I think some still have a false sense of where and what we are as a football club now. It’s a difficult league to get out of, we aren’t going to steam roll teams week in week out, it won’t happen.
We are moving in the right direction. |  | | |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:20 - Feb 5 with 1397 views | N2_Blue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:11 - Feb 5 by wkj |
The whole mood has been really off tonight. It was a sh*t game of football, but a great 3 points.
We were gagging for points for months, and now we have a good supply of them - but there is a really weird lingering guff of negativity around KM right now, which is bananas. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 21:13]
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It's weird isn't it.
I get we didn't play well...but how many times did we have performances like this under Lambert and Cook and lose.
Today was never going to be easy with them under a new manager... and we are going to have a fresher squad for Tuesday which could be crucial | |
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:23 - Feb 5 with 1353 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:17 - Feb 5 by wkj |
Then why are you coming over so consistently negative when we're winning more than we lose - that's actually kind of what you'd expect from a Budgie on this forum. Supporting a failing manager to the hilt, but casting considerable doubt over ones getting results. |
That's the thing. I'm not being overly negative. Which is why I make a case with all my follow ups that I agree it's a great return on results. Its better than PC and on par with Lamberts time.. I just want to see more on the performance side as I'd then feel we could reach that level Lambert couldn't with us. I've shared positives about KM. But people are keen to ignore those and concentrate on the negatives. That's not my fault. I'm sharing both thoughts. It's upto people on what they wish to focus on tbh.
What doesn't really help in this situation tho which I picked up earlier. Is people who visit the forum during a live game who then wonder why there are negative thoughts whilst it's 0-0 and the side hasn't had a shot on target. It's live football.. that I found bizarre. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 21:27]
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| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:30 - Feb 5 with 1290 views | BarcaBlue |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:23 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
That's the thing. I'm not being overly negative. Which is why I make a case with all my follow ups that I agree it's a great return on results. Its better than PC and on par with Lamberts time.. I just want to see more on the performance side as I'd then feel we could reach that level Lambert couldn't with us. I've shared positives about KM. But people are keen to ignore those and concentrate on the negatives. That's not my fault. I'm sharing both thoughts. It's upto people on what they wish to focus on tbh.
What doesn't really help in this situation tho which I picked up earlier. Is people who visit the forum during a live game who then wonder why there are negative thoughts whilst it's 0-0 and the side hasn't had a shot on target. It's live football.. that I found bizarre. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 21:27]
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On a par with Lambert????? Remind us of his first 7 games, or his first season, or his subsequent time in charge.
Somebody on here recently said you weren't trolling but were just thick. I thought at the time that was unfair. | | | |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:31 - Feb 5 with 1280 views | wkj |
| I really don't think McKenna is arbitrarily rotating... on 21:23 - Feb 5 by FrimleyBlue |
That's the thing. I'm not being overly negative. Which is why I make a case with all my follow ups that I agree it's a great return on results. Its better than PC and on par with Lamberts time.. I just want to see more on the performance side as I'd then feel we could reach that level Lambert couldn't with us. I've shared positives about KM. But people are keen to ignore those and concentrate on the negatives. That's not my fault. I'm sharing both thoughts. It's upto people on what they wish to focus on tbh.
What doesn't really help in this situation tho which I picked up earlier. Is people who visit the forum during a live game who then wonder why there are negative thoughts whilst it's 0-0 and the side hasn't had a shot on target. It's live football.. that I found bizarre. [Post edited 5 Feb 2022 21:27]
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Oh but you are - when you start picking apart other posters to assert hidden meaning behind a statement that was clearly only talking about today's game - you're looking to incite negativity (which you were today.) You wanted me to engage in a pointless dissection of my own words in a rather positive comment. All with the desire to get me to say we'd been poor for a number of games. That's negativity, pure and simple.
I'm telling you one thing now - I would rather be proven wrong 100 times when taking a positive view than to be proven right 1 time for having a negative one. | |
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