| Player ratings for the season 12:19 - Apr 27 with 2459 views | Asa |
10 - Davis. Morsy, Chaplin
9.5 - Walton, Burns, Luongo, Broadhead
9 - Woolfenden, Ladapo, Burgess, Hirst, Clarke
8.5 - Evans, Leigh, Edwards, Donacien
8 - John-Jules, Jackson, Hladky
7.5 - Edmundson, Harness, Ball
7 - Keogh, Aluko
6.5 - Vincent-Young
6 - Ahadme, Camara
Anyone suggesting anybody should be moved up or down?
Maybe Edmundson and Harness are slightly harsh, but Edmundson seemed to have his main run in the team when we were conceding plenty and hasn’t hit the levels of Wolf, JD, Clarke or Burgess and I don’t feel Harness has done a huge amount other than have a good run of scoring for a month or two.
I'm sure some will say Burns had a poor spell of form, he did. But overall his goals, assists and overall contribution has been massive.
You could make a case for Keogh being higher for his off the field involvement but as it’s not a visibly quantifiable thing, I can only judge him on the pitch.
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:28 - Apr 27 with 2380 views | J2BLUE |
I think you have overrated pretty much everyone in first 4 lines by a point. That's not a criticism, they've all been brilliant. Just think it's more realistic.
The exceptions are Vincent-Young who has never let us down and 6.5 seems harsh. I would make that 7. Also Ahadme and Camara slightly harsh considering how little they played. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 12:29]
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:30 - Apr 27 with 2347 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:28 - Apr 27 by J2BLUE |
I think you have overrated pretty much everyone in first 4 lines by a point. That's not a criticism, they've all been brilliant. Just think it's more realistic.
The exceptions are Vincent-Young who has never let us down and 6.5 seems harsh. I would make that 7. Also Ahadme and Camara slightly harsh considering how little they played. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 12:29]
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I considered that initially but worked on the basis that, in a team that could get promoted with close to 100 points, 100 goals and the best defence in the division, then everyone that's played a major part has to be 8, 9 or 10 and everyone else just below. | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:31 - Apr 27 with 2325 views | FrimleyBlue |
It doesn't really take into effect that we had a blip. So I don't think you can really put anyone in the top 2 cats.
Davis I'd say 9 alongside chappers and broadhead for consistency
The others for me go in at 8s then you have the bit part players. |  |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:32 - Apr 27 with 2315 views | Sharkey |
really sorry to see Vincent Young rated so low. He's 27 now and should be in his prime. Hopefully he'll have a happier time next season, wherever he may be.
Walton seems a bit high. There was a period of a month or more when most people seemed to think he was way off last season's standards.( He certainly bounced back!) [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 12:37]
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:33 - Apr 27 with 2305 views | TractorCam |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:28 - Apr 27 by J2BLUE |
I think you have overrated pretty much everyone in first 4 lines by a point. That's not a criticism, they've all been brilliant. Just think it's more realistic.
The exceptions are Vincent-Young who has never let us down and 6.5 seems harsh. I would make that 7. Also Ahadme and Camara slightly harsh considering how little they played. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 12:29]
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I would say it's pretty much spot on, especially the top categories.
Although now we'll probably lose 1-0 to Exeter through a Davis own goal, with Morsy getting sent off and Chaplin missing two penalties! |  |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:33 - Apr 27 with 2302 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:31 - Apr 27 by FrimleyBlue |
It doesn't really take into effect that we had a blip. So I don't think you can really put anyone in the top 2 cats.
Davis I'd say 9 alongside chappers and broadhead for consistency
The others for me go in at 8s then you have the bit part players. |
The way I see it, anyone captaining superbly every week, scoring 26 goals or leading assists and part of a relentless back four, for a team that is likely to get promoted with 94-100 points gets a 10.
Otherwise how does anyone get a 10? | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:36 - Apr 27 with 2280 views | SamWhiteUK |
I think an 8.5 for Evans is very generous |  | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:38 - Apr 27 with 2264 views | franz_tyson |
I'd say tear up your list, wait at least until we've officially been promoted....and then start again and take into account he whole of the season - the start, middle and end.
The start was pretty good, but the middle was below par. You're marking players' season ratings on the basis of an amazing run at the end of the season and not the entirety.
No player deserves 10. For example,. Chaplin didn't even score for about 3 months before Christmas. No need to piss on anyone's chips but we're still on a promotion high.... and we still haven't been promoted yet. | | | |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:38 - Apr 27 with 2253 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:36 - Apr 27 by SamWhiteUK |
I think an 8.5 for Evans is very generous |
Arguably player of the season in the first half of the campaign, during which we were consistently in the top two.
It may be the case that we've gone up levels without him, to the point where I can't see him having a future here, but doesn't diminish how much of a part he played in the season. | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:40 - Apr 27 with 2229 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:38 - Apr 27 by franz_tyson |
I'd say tear up your list, wait at least until we've officially been promoted....and then start again and take into account he whole of the season - the start, middle and end.
The start was pretty good, but the middle was below par. You're marking players' season ratings on the basis of an amazing run at the end of the season and not the entirety.
No player deserves 10. For example,. Chaplin didn't even score for about 3 months before Christmas. No need to piss on anyone's chips but we're still on a promotion high.... and we still haven't been promoted yet. |
But it's over the course of the season. Not what he did between August and October, November to February and March to May.
Chaplin has 26 goals. He's played a massive part in a phenomenal team effort. | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:43 - Apr 27 with 2180 views | usm |
Nobody is perfect so a 10 is impossible
a 9 or 9.5 is virtually unachievable so no-one should be there either
In my opinion anything above a 7 is exceptional and we have had a few of those |  |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:43 - Apr 27 with 2171 views | tractordownsouth |
9 Davis, Morsy, Chaplin, Luongo, Broadhead
8 Woolfenden, Burgess, Burns, Walton, Hirst, Ladapo, Clarke
7 Evans, Donacien, John-Jules, Humphreys, Jackson, Edwards,
6 Vincent-Young, Edmundson, Harness, Leigh, Aluko, Ball, Keogh
Haven’t rated Hladky, Ahadme or Camara because none have started a league game. Some of those ones in the bottom category might seem harsh but most haven’t played enough to merit a 7. Similarly with Evans, he was excellent at the beginning of the season but kept him at the top of the 7 bracket because of his lack of game time and how we look a better team with Luongo there. |  |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:45 - Apr 27 with 2138 views | tractordownsouth |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:32 - Apr 27 by Sharkey |
really sorry to see Vincent Young rated so low. He's 27 now and should be in his prime. Hopefully he'll have a happier time next season, wherever he may be.
Walton seems a bit high. There was a period of a month or more when most people seemed to think he was way off last season's standards.( He certainly bounced back!) [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 12:37]
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KVY will be an amazing signing for somebody in this league. I’d be perfectly happy with him playing for us, he’s just unlucky that Clarke is a step above and Donacien is there as the more defensive option. | |
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| Player ratings for the season on 12:48 - Apr 27 with 2092 views | franz_tyson |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:40 - Apr 27 by Asa |
But it's over the course of the season. Not what he did between August and October, November to February and March to May.
Chaplin has 26 goals. He's played a massive part in a phenomenal team effort. |
Huh.... that's what a season is, isn't it? From August (or late July) to May. If you split them into start, middle and an end it might help you look at it more clearly. Do it how you like, but you're just marking players from March to May - and not taking into account the fallow periods (which we definitely had). | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:49 - Apr 27 with 2090 views | TractorCam |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:38 - Apr 27 by Asa |
Arguably player of the season in the first half of the campaign, during which we were consistently in the top two.
It may be the case that we've gone up levels without him, to the point where I can't see him having a future here, but doesn't diminish how much of a part he played in the season. |
He was alright but certainly not player of the season territory for me. | |
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| Player ratings for the season on 13:07 - Apr 27 with 1999 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 12:31 - Apr 27 by FrimleyBlue |
It doesn't really take into effect that we had a blip. So I don't think you can really put anyone in the top 2 cats.
Davis I'd say 9 alongside chappers and broadhead for consistency
The others for me go in at 8s then you have the bit part players. |
I also think the whole 'blip' think is ridiculous in the concept of a potential 100 point season.
It's not really a blip. It's just a series of small number of games where we were average as opposed to the vast majority of the season where we've been incredible. No team - even the Reading team of 106 points - can be awesome for the entire campaign. They lost 2 games that season, winning 31. We could end up on 29 wins. But they had a run of 3 draws in a row, 5 draws in 8. Were they blips?
We may end the season on 4 defeats. It's just a case that a couple of those came next to a couple of draws but that happens over the course of a season.
If you win 20, then lose 2 in a row it's an amazing run of form followed by a 'blip' apparently. If you win 10, lose 1, win 10, lose 1, it's an amazing run of form full stop.
Sure 1 win out of 8 over that period of time is nowhere near promotion form, but when you have won 14 out of the first 20 and could go 14 wins in the last 15, then over the season it's a relentless season, regardless of how the individual results fall. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:12]
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| Player ratings for the season on 13:09 - Apr 27 with 1983 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Player ratings for the season on 13:07 - Apr 27 by Asa |
I also think the whole 'blip' think is ridiculous in the concept of a potential 100 point season.
It's not really a blip. It's just a series of small number of games where we were average as opposed to the vast majority of the season where we've been incredible. No team - even the Reading team of 106 points - can be awesome for the entire campaign. They lost 2 games that season, winning 31. We could end up on 29 wins. But they had a run of 3 draws in a row, 5 draws in 8. Were they blips?
We may end the season on 4 defeats. It's just a case that a couple of those came next to a couple of draws but that happens over the course of a season.
If you win 20, then lose 2 in a row it's an amazing run of form followed by a 'blip' apparently. If you win 10, lose 1, win 10, lose 1, it's an amazing run of form full stop.
Sure 1 win out of 8 over that period of time is nowhere near promotion form, but when you have won 14 out of the first 20 and could go 14 wins in the last 15, then over the season it's a relentless season, regardless of how the individual results fall. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:12]
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I also think the whole 'blip' think is ridiculous in the concept of a potential 100 point season
Think you're just ignoring something that happened personally. Until this run. We hadn't won back to back games since October. It was a blip. No we didn't lose games but we just couldn't stop drawing.
Hopefully it doesn't matter come Saturday. But in this discussion alone, you can't say it wasn't a blip. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:12]
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| Player ratings for the season on 13:16 - Apr 27 with 1931 views | Asa |
| Player ratings for the season on 13:09 - Apr 27 by FrimleyBlue |
I also think the whole 'blip' think is ridiculous in the concept of a potential 100 point season
Think you're just ignoring something that happened personally. Until this run. We hadn't won back to back games since October. It was a blip. No we didn't lose games but we just couldn't stop drawing.
Hopefully it doesn't matter come Saturday. But in this discussion alone, you can't say it wasn't a blip. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:12]
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6 wins, 6 draws and 2 defeats. 24 points from 48 - 1.5 points per game. It's mid-table form.
The rest of the season we've taken 67 points from 30 matches at a rate that would see us close to the best teams ever in the EFL points wise.
You can go a whole season not winning back to back games, win one, draw one and carry on like that and get 92 points and promotion every other season.
For me total points in a season is far more important than winning or losing streaks or how the points are distributed.
On reflection - the legal definition of blip is technically correct, but only because the general trend has been incredible results in every other game. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:18]
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| Player ratings for the season on 13:21 - Apr 27 with 1873 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Player ratings for the season on 13:16 - Apr 27 by Asa |
6 wins, 6 draws and 2 defeats. 24 points from 48 - 1.5 points per game. It's mid-table form.
The rest of the season we've taken 67 points from 30 matches at a rate that would see us close to the best teams ever in the EFL points wise.
You can go a whole season not winning back to back games, win one, draw one and carry on like that and get 92 points and promotion every other season.
For me total points in a season is far more important than winning or losing streaks or how the points are distributed.
On reflection - the legal definition of blip is technically correct, but only because the general trend has been incredible results in every other game. [Post edited 27 Apr 2023 13:18]
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Well yes of course it is. But the post is about player season ratings and at a time in the season there was a point as you've just just described as midtable form where player performance levels had dropped.
Hence the discussion that some of the ratings don't follow inline with that. | |
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| Player ratings for the season on 13:38 - Apr 27 with 1798 views | cressi |
9 Team Effort
Let's wait before we say to much | | | |
| Player ratings for the season on 14:06 - Apr 27 with 1677 views | Deano69 |
I cant have Aluko and Keogh the same, sorry |  |
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| Player ratings for the season on 15:42 - Apr 27 with 1553 views | PioneerBlue |
See match day player ratings for a sample view on actual ratings and group them that way. Either way, this is something for when the season is ended. | |
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