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Hancock is trying to weasel his way out of this, as will the rest "I was only abeying orders" will be the mantra.
He was part of a government which cut the NJS budget year on year. Cut training of nurse. Blocked the recruitment of medical staff (inc care workers) and caused PPE stocks to fall to an unworkable level.
That him and the rest are now blaming brexit is a joke. What the fck were they doing with Brexit ? Trying to bluff the EU that if it did not change its rules the UK would fall into a no deal - WTO rules. Yeh right, putting a gun to your head and threatening to blow your brains out is going to work. Especially when the EU knew the gun was not loaded.
Why was there such a mass panic. The government knew the massive damage trading under WTO rules would cause. But they, Farage and others continued to lie. Continued to make empty threats. Not to influence the EU, but to pander to the thickos who thought WTO rules were ever an option.
We saw the harm that ignorance caused, when we read stories of thicko righties claiming COVID was all a hoax and then dying of it. *
As I have stated. This enquiry will doubtlessly uncover the incompetence, the deceit and the fraud that lead to so many deaths. However, the real question is will it lead people to listen to experts - those in the field of science, medicine and technology. Or will some still continue to believe the words of known liars such as Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg ?
Covid was always going to cause the deaths of a large number of people. The nagging question however, which is now only going to become more evident, is how many of those deaths could have been avoided ? How many people could have been saved ?
* ignorance kills -
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 17:21 - Jun 27 with 2818 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 15:07 - Jun 27 by HARRY10
Hancock is trying to weasel his way out of this, as will the rest "I was only abeying orders" will be the mantra.
He was part of a government which cut the NJS budget year on year. Cut training of nurse. Blocked the recruitment of medical staff (inc care workers) and caused PPE stocks to fall to an unworkable level.
That him and the rest are now blaming brexit is a joke. What the fck were they doing with Brexit ? Trying to bluff the EU that if it did not change its rules the UK would fall into a no deal - WTO rules. Yeh right, putting a gun to your head and threatening to blow your brains out is going to work. Especially when the EU knew the gun was not loaded.
Why was there such a mass panic. The government knew the massive damage trading under WTO rules would cause. But they, Farage and others continued to lie. Continued to make empty threats. Not to influence the EU, but to pander to the thickos who thought WTO rules were ever an option.
We saw the harm that ignorance caused, when we read stories of thicko righties claiming COVID was all a hoax and then dying of it. *
As I have stated. This enquiry will doubtlessly uncover the incompetence, the deceit and the fraud that lead to so many deaths. However, the real question is will it lead people to listen to experts - those in the field of science, medicine and technology. Or will some still continue to believe the words of known liars such as Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg ?
Covid was always going to cause the deaths of a large number of people. The nagging question however, which is now only going to become more evident, is how many of those deaths could have been avoided ? How many people could have been saved ?
What has not been explained, at the moment, is why there was such a shortage of PPE.
After the SARS outbreak k of 2005, the NHS set necessary requirements of PPE, and other medical equipment, that would be needed were any similar pandemic to hit the UK. Within a few years of the Tory government of 2010 these stocks were being run down. Highlighted by a'strength testing' of the system in 2016 - operation Cygnus. Which found,
“The UK’s preparedness and response, in terms of its plans, policies and capability, is currently not sufficient to cope with the extreme demands of a severe pandemic that will have a nationwide impact across all sectors"
and
"Cygnus found that the social care sector was “currently under significant pressure during business as usual,” and that in the event of a pandemic staff absenteeism through illness combined with widespread infection of the vulnerable “could be very challenging"
The rest is history. A government that has taken the same line with water and sewage - only ii is not sht in our rivers and seas, but dead bodies in the cemeteries. Each one, a person loved by friends and family.
This enquiry is set for another three years, so bad were things that an enormous amount needs looking into.
Whether it will cover the bloaters compromised state as far as Putin goes, I very much doubt. But I suspect tonight's damning documentary on Johnson, KGB spies, money and a knighthood will merely be the start
It's on Channel 4 10pm
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 22:19 - Jun 27 with 2504 views
First article talks about us missing an opportunity to be part of a larger procurement scheme. Actually, the opportunity people sought lay in NOT being part of the scheme. Just ask PPE Medpro/Michelle Mone, Full Support Healthcare, Tory donor Steven Parkin, SG Recruitment and all the others who benefited from vastly overpriced government contracts with no formal tendering process and sometimes off the back of no track record. Many of those individuals are not just ‘friends’ of the Tories but also registered in offshore tax havens.
If we had a functioning media and hadn’t had our morality corrupted over the last 7/8 years with this populist bullsh*t, this would be one of our largest ever national scandals.
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 22:19 - Jun 27 by Swansea_Blue
First article talks about us missing an opportunity to be part of a larger procurement scheme. Actually, the opportunity people sought lay in NOT being part of the scheme. Just ask PPE Medpro/Michelle Mone, Full Support Healthcare, Tory donor Steven Parkin, SG Recruitment and all the others who benefited from vastly overpriced government contracts with no formal tendering process and sometimes off the back of no track record. Many of those individuals are not just ‘friends’ of the Tories but also registered in offshore tax havens.
If we had a functioning media and hadn’t had our morality corrupted over the last 7/8 years with this populist bullsh*t, this would be one of our largest ever national scandals.
There was a total absence of communication with genuine experts. The Cabinet Office acted with utter arrogance, they didn't even know what they didn't know, didn't even know who the experts were, or how to access them. The NHS employs fantastic people who have the skills, training and knowledge. Remember it was NHS scientists that developed the first effective vaccine. We NHS scientists had to just stand and watch as the inept and corrupt cabinet office came up with incredulous decisions - about failing to lock down early, about the PPE, about the oxygen delivery systems, about the nightingale hospitals....Just literally spunking billions in the end on useless ventures, chinese "toys" instead of proper equipment, Tory MPs and their buddies just regarding it as an opportunity to siphon off millions into their rapidly set up "companies". It was so demoralising seeing stupid decisions made because they had been so arrogant and ignorant that they didn't even know who the experts were and who to consult with. I don't know if there will be any outcome from the enquiry other than "learning lessons for the future". Some of them should be on trial.
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 06:27 - Jun 28 by LegendofthePhoenix
There was a total absence of communication with genuine experts. The Cabinet Office acted with utter arrogance, they didn't even know what they didn't know, didn't even know who the experts were, or how to access them. The NHS employs fantastic people who have the skills, training and knowledge. Remember it was NHS scientists that developed the first effective vaccine. We NHS scientists had to just stand and watch as the inept and corrupt cabinet office came up with incredulous decisions - about failing to lock down early, about the PPE, about the oxygen delivery systems, about the nightingale hospitals....Just literally spunking billions in the end on useless ventures, chinese "toys" instead of proper equipment, Tory MPs and their buddies just regarding it as an opportunity to siphon off millions into their rapidly set up "companies". It was so demoralising seeing stupid decisions made because they had been so arrogant and ignorant that they didn't even know who the experts were and who to consult with. I don't know if there will be any outcome from the enquiry other than "learning lessons for the future". Some of them should be on trial.
Spot on post. Of course they should be on trial. They should have resigned as a government by now. How can such catastrophic failure justify them not calling an election once the country started returning to normal?
But lessons by this lot won’t be learned. Their ignorance, arrogance and criminality, moral and actual, knows no limits. In any case, as far as they’re concerned accountability lies anywhere but them.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 07:39 - Jun 28 with 2299 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 15:07 - Jun 27 by HARRY10
Hancock is trying to weasel his way out of this, as will the rest "I was only abeying orders" will be the mantra.
He was part of a government which cut the NJS budget year on year. Cut training of nurse. Blocked the recruitment of medical staff (inc care workers) and caused PPE stocks to fall to an unworkable level.
That him and the rest are now blaming brexit is a joke. What the fck were they doing with Brexit ? Trying to bluff the EU that if it did not change its rules the UK would fall into a no deal - WTO rules. Yeh right, putting a gun to your head and threatening to blow your brains out is going to work. Especially when the EU knew the gun was not loaded.
Why was there such a mass panic. The government knew the massive damage trading under WTO rules would cause. But they, Farage and others continued to lie. Continued to make empty threats. Not to influence the EU, but to pander to the thickos who thought WTO rules were ever an option.
We saw the harm that ignorance caused, when we read stories of thicko righties claiming COVID was all a hoax and then dying of it. *
As I have stated. This enquiry will doubtlessly uncover the incompetence, the deceit and the fraud that lead to so many deaths. However, the real question is will it lead people to listen to experts - those in the field of science, medicine and technology. Or will some still continue to believe the words of known liars such as Farage, Johnson and Rees-Mogg ?
Covid was always going to cause the deaths of a large number of people. The nagging question however, which is now only going to become more evident, is how many of those deaths could have been avoided ? How many people could have been saved ?
* ignorance kills -
While I don’t disagree with the main thrust of this post, paragraphs three and four aren’t quite right. In particular, the government had no idea what trading under WTO rules meant. Nor did it understand the single market and Customs Union until 2018 or how the country actually worked. As for how the EU operated, they weren’t the least bit interested.
It needs to be remembered that every project team in most government departments had to be reassigned to Brexit work. All but the most urgent ‘day to day’ projects were dropped or postponed. 100s of them. Because of cuts, some departments had no project teams left anyway, so they had to be either recruited or outside contractors like PwC, at huge cost, brought in.
Nobody was even thinking about contingency planning for pandemics or anything else. It was not even a consideration, given the unfolding potential disaster of no deal Brexit. The work that went into planning for Brexit was eye watering. Much of it is on public record. It’s how it was.
I happened so see some of the reports on SARS in the mid 2000s. To my amateur eye, it was pretty comprehensive. At that time, disaster recovery, emergency planning, health and safety etc were taken seriously in government departments. Far more so than I’d seen in the private sector.
There were actual teams working in that stuff. But when the tories came in, with austerity it was by and large abandoned and so were the teams. It was considered unproductive work. Useless mouths. It was cheaper for the govt, for example, if somebody sued if they got carpal tunnel syndrome than to prevent them getting it in the first place. Disaster recovery plans? Why waste time on that? Planning with LAs, including where the body bags were stored? Don’t worry about it. Let’s save the money. Bio suits, battle boxes, you name it? Waste of time and money
In other words, the government weren’t interested in any of it. They have a habit of ignoring things they don’t understand. That’s why they loathe experts who might just tell them something they don’t want to hear. And if they hear something unpleasant, shouting loudly, insisting black is white or ignoring it is their default response.
It’s hardly a surprise that we are in such a mess with the head in the sand barmy ‘ideologies’ this mob embrace. 13 years and counting.
A disaster a day keeps the plebs at bay should be this lots motto.
As for apologies, Hancock, just don’t. Way too late for that. People died in their 1000s unnecessarily because of you and your colleagues gross incompetence and negligence. They should be held to account.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 08:52 - Jun 28 with 2233 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 06:27 - Jun 28 by LegendofthePhoenix
There was a total absence of communication with genuine experts. The Cabinet Office acted with utter arrogance, they didn't even know what they didn't know, didn't even know who the experts were, or how to access them. The NHS employs fantastic people who have the skills, training and knowledge. Remember it was NHS scientists that developed the first effective vaccine. We NHS scientists had to just stand and watch as the inept and corrupt cabinet office came up with incredulous decisions - about failing to lock down early, about the PPE, about the oxygen delivery systems, about the nightingale hospitals....Just literally spunking billions in the end on useless ventures, chinese "toys" instead of proper equipment, Tory MPs and their buddies just regarding it as an opportunity to siphon off millions into their rapidly set up "companies". It was so demoralising seeing stupid decisions made because they had been so arrogant and ignorant that they didn't even know who the experts were and who to consult with. I don't know if there will be any outcome from the enquiry other than "learning lessons for the future". Some of them should be on trial.
The nightingale hospitals were clearly the sort of high profile vanity project that was just up Johnson's street because they made it look like he was doing something, but they did reflect the fact that the UK has less hospital beds, doctor and nurses per head of population than comparable countries, and in any event, couldn't have been staffed without diverting medical staff.
As regards the vaccine roll-out, I also sensed there was an aspect of vanity, as well as pro-Brexit sentiment, given that the Astra Zeneca vaccine came out of Oxford. As it was, that vaccine was less effective than the mRNA vaccines, and also had side effects, so the perhaps more cautious approach in other European countries with regard to vaccine roll-out, and greater use of mRNA vaccines, probably paid off in the long run. Indeed, once Johnson was able to make his supposedly "world leading vaccination roll-out" claim, it was interesting that the Astra Zeneca faded into the background, and ceased to be used.
And when it comes to cumulative excess mortality per 100,000 people over the length of the pandemic (which is the best way to measure things) we did much worse than all other western European countries, with the exception of Spain and Italy, with whom we were roughly on a par. But unlike Italy, we had some warning of what was about to happen.
It would be interesting if you could expand on your point about the Cabinet Office. There were scientific advisers advising Ministers (SAGE) , but my understanding is that ultimately the decisions were down to Ministers. Are you saying the scientific advisers were not the right ones? Indeed, the blame for what you suggest happened seems to me more likely down to Johnson and his fellow ministers, rather than the result of civil servants in the Cabinet Office. But you clearly have much greater insight on this than me.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2023 14:05]
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 14:36 - Jun 28 with 2104 views
"in particular, the government had no idea what trading under WTO rules meant. Nor did it understand the single market and Customs Union until 2018 or how the country actually worked. As for how the EU operated, they weren’t the least bit interested"
Actually they did, as even lesser mortals like myself knew. If only because it was all over certain sections of the media. I accept tgough there was an air bluff. A belief that because we are Britain, both the EU and the WTO would change the rules.
When it became obvious they would not was when the panic set in. I am not sure how many countries (if any) trade under WTO rules only. The UK was heading for the rocks, with the economic disaster that would follow. Hence it being all hands to the pumps to try to lessen the mess the country was facing.
As with the Water companies (see Thames Water today), rail, social care and others this belief that by cutting investment things get better has shown to be the lunacy many already knew it to be Privatisation, where the bureaucracy at the top increase while those at the sharp end see cuts to wages and numbers employed. Meanwhie profits are creamed off through dividends and bonuses.
I expect those a t the top to do this, but I can never fathom how what the 'master knows best' red wall brexiter gets out of it.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 15:04 - Jun 28 with 2074 views
"Whether it will cover the bloaters compromised state as far as Putin goes, I very much doubt. But I suspect tonight's damning documentary on Johnson, KGB spies, money and a knighthood will merely be the start. It's on Channel 4 10pm" Harry10
I expect the two righties who stamped their little feet (Mon) and claimed my suggestion folk watch this documentary was wrong, because ...... nothing really. They were upset that I had drawn attention to this documentary.
The unanswered question coming out was what the Lebedev's had on the bloater. Certainly more than their papers (Evening Standard) tireless support for the gutbuckets mayoral contest.
However it is no more than a sorry reflection on the stupidity of a section of UK voters. Vote against Corbyn because he is a member of the PLO, makes bombs for the IRA and is in the pay of Czech intelligence (none of which was ever true) - but vote for the habitual liar who is in the pay (allegedly) of a former KGB officer, who is answerable to Putin.
How on earth did we get to the position where the son of a high ranking KGB officer is a member of part of our legislative body, and we had a PM who was seen as a security risk by British intelligence.
The Russians take a long term view over spies and informants. Much as we do, I am no doubt, but we are never told about them.
The idea is to find the weakness and then play on that. With the bloater and Trump it was vanity. A need to achieve 'success', at any cost. the warning signs with the gutbucket should have been his aligning with Putin over Crimea. The payments direct to him via a a Putin 'front' did trigger alarm bells for many, but not the gormless.
Was Lebedev Jnr made a lord so as to have access to Britains secrets. I doubt. It was merely a means to let the bloater know how far he was compromised. To mask that reality, fatso tried to ennoble numerous other 'unsuitables'. Where better to hide a tree, than in a wood.
When Town appointed Hirst it was on the basis on past performance. Which rightly suggested he would be a success here. He wasn't. Why on earth did any sane person think that after a life time of failure, this lardy when in office would finally be a success ?
An untrustworthy braggart with an over inflated sense of his own worth was always going to be the same once he became PM. This, to our cost, we found out.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 18:24 - Jun 28 with 2010 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 08:52 - Jun 28 by DJR
The nightingale hospitals were clearly the sort of high profile vanity project that was just up Johnson's street because they made it look like he was doing something, but they did reflect the fact that the UK has less hospital beds, doctor and nurses per head of population than comparable countries, and in any event, couldn't have been staffed without diverting medical staff.
As regards the vaccine roll-out, I also sensed there was an aspect of vanity, as well as pro-Brexit sentiment, given that the Astra Zeneca vaccine came out of Oxford. As it was, that vaccine was less effective than the mRNA vaccines, and also had side effects, so the perhaps more cautious approach in other European countries with regard to vaccine roll-out, and greater use of mRNA vaccines, probably paid off in the long run. Indeed, once Johnson was able to make his supposedly "world leading vaccination roll-out" claim, it was interesting that the Astra Zeneca faded into the background, and ceased to be used.
And when it comes to cumulative excess mortality per 100,000 people over the length of the pandemic (which is the best way to measure things) we did much worse than all other western European countries, with the exception of Spain and Italy, with whom we were roughly on a par. But unlike Italy, we had some warning of what was about to happen.
It would be interesting if you could expand on your point about the Cabinet Office. There were scientific advisers advising Ministers (SAGE) , but my understanding is that ultimately the decisions were down to Ministers. Are you saying the scientific advisers were not the right ones? Indeed, the blame for what you suggest happened seems to me more likely down to Johnson and his fellow ministers, rather than the result of civil servants in the Cabinet Office. But you clearly have much greater insight on this than me.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2023 14:05]
In the early days of Covid, SAGE comprised some eminent scientists but the focus of the group was on virology and disease modelling. I think SAGE did a great job and have huge respect for the integrity of Sir Patrick Vallance, JVT and other scientists on the SAGE committee. The problem was that there was a void in the committee around delivery of oxygen, devices, and systems. No one in the cabinet office had ever heard of a Clinical Engineer, despite the fact that there are thousands working in the NHS. No one in the cabinet office knew what the issues were in trying to deliver huge quantities of high flow oxygen to hundreds of patients, the ventilators, the consumables. No one in the cabinet office knew how to tell if a medical device met the correct standards. Medical devices in Europe were, pre-Brexit, required to be CE marked to the European CE Medical Device Regulations. Not many people knew that China marks its products with an almost identical CE mark which means "China Export". If the incompetents in the Government had understood that they needed to consult with Clinical Engineers that exist in all the large UK hospitals, they could have known that they should only procure devices (oxygen monitors, ventilators, consumables) that are marked to the European CE system. But they didn't even know what a Clinical Engineer was, and believed that the only people worth consulting and listening to were medical doctors, professors on SAGE, or people like Dyson. They didn't know that they didn't know how the NHS worked. It was because of their arrogance, people like Hancock should know what the roles are and where the skills are. Any good manager knows what the different roles and responsibilities are in the area that they are responsible for. How many millions were wasted on the Mercedes and Dyson ventilators? These were useless - they needed vast quantities of oxygen (60-70l/min) that wasn't available because hospitals didn't have that volume of oxygen. The challenge was to find commonly available kit that could be redesigned and repurposed using commonly available consumables, and that would deliver high % oxygen (>60% FiO2) but consuming lower volumes (10-15 l/min). We found so much of the equipment coming in was from China and was just junk, or couldn't be used because we didn't have consumables, or had the wrong connections etc The government set up a fast track route to airfreight stuff in to an army base near Loughborough, but it was almost all inappropriate. Eventually a bold and brilliant Clinical Engineer managed to get the ear of someone in the Cabinet office, and set up a facility to check the equipment coming in to the UK, to reject the garbage (which is still held to this day in warehouses) and to link to the Clinical Engineers in hospitals to try to collate requirements and direct the useful items to where they would be usable. In my view, this was all due to arrogance and ignorance in government. Charlatans who were unfit to do their jobs, driven by hubris, right wing ideology and dogma.
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 18:24 - Jun 28 by LegendofthePhoenix
In the early days of Covid, SAGE comprised some eminent scientists but the focus of the group was on virology and disease modelling. I think SAGE did a great job and have huge respect for the integrity of Sir Patrick Vallance, JVT and other scientists on the SAGE committee. The problem was that there was a void in the committee around delivery of oxygen, devices, and systems. No one in the cabinet office had ever heard of a Clinical Engineer, despite the fact that there are thousands working in the NHS. No one in the cabinet office knew what the issues were in trying to deliver huge quantities of high flow oxygen to hundreds of patients, the ventilators, the consumables. No one in the cabinet office knew how to tell if a medical device met the correct standards. Medical devices in Europe were, pre-Brexit, required to be CE marked to the European CE Medical Device Regulations. Not many people knew that China marks its products with an almost identical CE mark which means "China Export". If the incompetents in the Government had understood that they needed to consult with Clinical Engineers that exist in all the large UK hospitals, they could have known that they should only procure devices (oxygen monitors, ventilators, consumables) that are marked to the European CE system. But they didn't even know what a Clinical Engineer was, and believed that the only people worth consulting and listening to were medical doctors, professors on SAGE, or people like Dyson. They didn't know that they didn't know how the NHS worked. It was because of their arrogance, people like Hancock should know what the roles are and where the skills are. Any good manager knows what the different roles and responsibilities are in the area that they are responsible for. How many millions were wasted on the Mercedes and Dyson ventilators? These were useless - they needed vast quantities of oxygen (60-70l/min) that wasn't available because hospitals didn't have that volume of oxygen. The challenge was to find commonly available kit that could be redesigned and repurposed using commonly available consumables, and that would deliver high % oxygen (>60% FiO2) but consuming lower volumes (10-15 l/min). We found so much of the equipment coming in was from China and was just junk, or couldn't be used because we didn't have consumables, or had the wrong connections etc The government set up a fast track route to airfreight stuff in to an army base near Loughborough, but it was almost all inappropriate. Eventually a bold and brilliant Clinical Engineer managed to get the ear of someone in the Cabinet office, and set up a facility to check the equipment coming in to the UK, to reject the garbage (which is still held to this day in warehouses) and to link to the Clinical Engineers in hospitals to try to collate requirements and direct the useful items to where they would be usable. In my view, this was all due to arrogance and ignorance in government. Charlatans who were unfit to do their jobs, driven by hubris, right wing ideology and dogma.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2023 19:22]
Thanks for the response which is both fascinating and alarming. It strikes me that this should be investigated by the Covid Inquiry, and I wonder if it will be.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2023 19:25]
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 20:11 - Jun 28 with 1938 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 19:24 - Jun 28 by DJR
Thanks for the response which is both fascinating and alarming. It strikes me that this should be investigated by the Covid Inquiry, and I wonder if it will be.
[Post edited 28 Jun 2023 19:25]
I will be watching carefully to see. But I somehow don't hold out much hope. When people talk about "The NHS" you get such a variety of views, but what I see is that in the most part, the NHS staff working in front line care in hospitals and GP surgeries are generally very dedicated hardworking good people. The problem is that NHS England is completely unfit for purpose. It is a totally top down organisation, it doesn't listen, they just have that same arrogance where they seem to think that front line staff need to be told what to do. The directives we get from NHSE are absolutely laughable. Telling us about the performance levels we are required to hit, telling us that we should be fully engaged with their programme of Integrated Care Systems, telling us we need to do more training. That we should implement the latest cyber security measures. That we should introduce tracking systems for all implants and high risk devices used in every procedure. The reality is we have water pouring through the roof when it rains, we are working in buildings that reach 36C, that have no (and I mean zero) heating throughout the winter. Where we have 20% vacancy factors, and cannot recruit people (who would want to work in the sh1tty conditions we work in). We have treatment machines that are more than 20 years old. I currently have two treatment machines out of commission that use a Pentium 4 processor! Remember those? The Kings fund report published earlier this month shows how shockingly under-funded we are in the UK for capital equipment and staff. Should not NHSE and the Health Secretary, be shouting this on the news every day? I haven't even heard it reported on main news. The BBC is just a Tory controlled propaganda machine. And Starmer is so obsessed with getting elected, he has abandoned any principles and now resembles one of the pigs in Animal Farm. I really don't see much hope, and the sad thing is, NHS colleagues like me who have worked so hard, for so long trying to hold it all together are now quite literally giving up. Thanks Tories.
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 20:11 - Jun 28 by LegendofthePhoenix
I will be watching carefully to see. But I somehow don't hold out much hope. When people talk about "The NHS" you get such a variety of views, but what I see is that in the most part, the NHS staff working in front line care in hospitals and GP surgeries are generally very dedicated hardworking good people. The problem is that NHS England is completely unfit for purpose. It is a totally top down organisation, it doesn't listen, they just have that same arrogance where they seem to think that front line staff need to be told what to do. The directives we get from NHSE are absolutely laughable. Telling us about the performance levels we are required to hit, telling us that we should be fully engaged with their programme of Integrated Care Systems, telling us we need to do more training. That we should implement the latest cyber security measures. That we should introduce tracking systems for all implants and high risk devices used in every procedure. The reality is we have water pouring through the roof when it rains, we are working in buildings that reach 36C, that have no (and I mean zero) heating throughout the winter. Where we have 20% vacancy factors, and cannot recruit people (who would want to work in the sh1tty conditions we work in). We have treatment machines that are more than 20 years old. I currently have two treatment machines out of commission that use a Pentium 4 processor! Remember those? The Kings fund report published earlier this month shows how shockingly under-funded we are in the UK for capital equipment and staff. Should not NHSE and the Health Secretary, be shouting this on the news every day? I haven't even heard it reported on main news. The BBC is just a Tory controlled propaganda machine. And Starmer is so obsessed with getting elected, he has abandoned any principles and now resembles one of the pigs in Animal Farm. I really don't see much hope, and the sad thing is, NHS colleagues like me who have worked so hard, for so long trying to hold it all together are now quite literally giving up. Thanks Tories.
Very well done to your and your colleagues. And very well said. Certainly one of the most powerful comments I have read on TWTD.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 00:02 - Jun 30 with 1742 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 20:11 - Jun 28 by LegendofthePhoenix
I will be watching carefully to see. But I somehow don't hold out much hope. When people talk about "The NHS" you get such a variety of views, but what I see is that in the most part, the NHS staff working in front line care in hospitals and GP surgeries are generally very dedicated hardworking good people. The problem is that NHS England is completely unfit for purpose. It is a totally top down organisation, it doesn't listen, they just have that same arrogance where they seem to think that front line staff need to be told what to do. The directives we get from NHSE are absolutely laughable. Telling us about the performance levels we are required to hit, telling us that we should be fully engaged with their programme of Integrated Care Systems, telling us we need to do more training. That we should implement the latest cyber security measures. That we should introduce tracking systems for all implants and high risk devices used in every procedure. The reality is we have water pouring through the roof when it rains, we are working in buildings that reach 36C, that have no (and I mean zero) heating throughout the winter. Where we have 20% vacancy factors, and cannot recruit people (who would want to work in the sh1tty conditions we work in). We have treatment machines that are more than 20 years old. I currently have two treatment machines out of commission that use a Pentium 4 processor! Remember those? The Kings fund report published earlier this month shows how shockingly under-funded we are in the UK for capital equipment and staff. Should not NHSE and the Health Secretary, be shouting this on the news every day? I haven't even heard it reported on main news. The BBC is just a Tory controlled propaganda machine. And Starmer is so obsessed with getting elected, he has abandoned any principles and now resembles one of the pigs in Animal Farm. I really don't see much hope, and the sad thing is, NHS colleagues like me who have worked so hard, for so long trying to hold it all together are now quite literally giving up. Thanks Tories.
One of the people I was out to dinner with the other evening is a recently retired Specialist. He asked me if my work had brought me into contact with NHS, NHS England. It hadn’t directly, but I told him I was aware of NHS England’s reputation and that some of my colleagues had worked there.
On regurgitating my matchbox knowledge of it, the chap I was talking to went into a lengthy, interesting description of what he and his colleagues had been up against for years.
His story completely mirrored yours.
Thank you to you for all that you do. I’m sorry you and your colleagues have had to go through the mess of the last gods knows how many years. It should never have happened, but we all know why it did.
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Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 08:47 - Jun 30 with 1661 views
Brilliant from Hancock - you'll never guess what caused the on 00:02 - Jun 30 by Churchman
One of the people I was out to dinner with the other evening is a recently retired Specialist. He asked me if my work had brought me into contact with NHS, NHS England. It hadn’t directly, but I told him I was aware of NHS England’s reputation and that some of my colleagues had worked there.
On regurgitating my matchbox knowledge of it, the chap I was talking to went into a lengthy, interesting description of what he and his colleagues had been up against for years.
His story completely mirrored yours.
Thank you to you for all that you do. I’m sorry you and your colleagues have had to go through the mess of the last gods knows how many years. It should never have happened, but we all know why it did.
NHS England was a creation of the Lansley reforms which have turned out to be a disaster.
One of the aims of his reforms was to take responsibility for the NHS away from the Health Secretary (in my view to try to avoid ministerial blame).
My understanding is that many of his reforms are in the process of being reversed, but I wonder if the creation of NHS England made things worse than they might otherwise have been (given that the cuts have had the greatest impact).
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