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The psychology of being 2nd for so long 14:38 - Mar 15 with 1857 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Boro fans seem in a bit of a weird place. Sounds like they think they’ve massively dodged a bullet yesterday and they were briefly 3rd and then Blackburn have saved them.

Is anyone going to tell them?

I know we haven’t exactly been that convincing this year but there’s quite a few that seem to see us as less as a threat based on us hanging around 4th for months. They quite literally should have been 10 points clear of us before we kicked a ball yesterday.


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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:44 - Mar 15 with 1757 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Can you show your workings on the maths (math!)

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:53 - Mar 15 with 1691 viewspatrickswell

I still make Boro slight favourites because I think our run in is a little tougher than theirs. Although we have to play each other and both have to play Millwall, the only other game of Boro’s that strikes me as sticky is Wrexham away on the last day. They also have to go to Blackburn, but it’s at Ewood Park and Boro’s away form has been very good.

We have Birmingham at home which has draw written all over it, and trips to a revitalised Norwich who I’m sure will see the derby as a chance to really cement the work Clement’s been doing, a Southampton side who have the play offs in sight and Portsmouth and West Brom both of whom are fighting relegation and whose grounds could be a 12th man to them if we’re in one of our more melancholic moods.
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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:53 - Mar 15 with 1686 viewsMrPotatoHead

Doesn’t matter one jot what they think.

We need to win our home games. If we do that we will possibly only need a couple more wins away.
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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:00 - Mar 15 with 1607 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:53 - Mar 15 by MrPotatoHead

Doesn’t matter one jot what they think.

We need to win our home games. If we do that we will possibly only need a couple more wins away.


I didn’t say it did? It was just an observation about their official account tweeting about twists and turns after the Millwall result and a journalist of theirs stating how much of a bullet had been dodged. I think sitting that long in second (practically all season) plays into it.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:03 - Mar 15 with 1574 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:53 - Mar 15 by patrickswell

I still make Boro slight favourites because I think our run in is a little tougher than theirs. Although we have to play each other and both have to play Millwall, the only other game of Boro’s that strikes me as sticky is Wrexham away on the last day. They also have to go to Blackburn, but it’s at Ewood Park and Boro’s away form has been very good.

We have Birmingham at home which has draw written all over it, and trips to a revitalised Norwich who I’m sure will see the derby as a chance to really cement the work Clement’s been doing, a Southampton side who have the play offs in sight and Portsmouth and West Brom both of whom are fighting relegation and whose grounds could be a 12th man to them if we’re in one of our more melancholic moods.
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Did Charlton and Bristol City strike you as sticky? Dangerous game to play in the champ really. I think Southampton is a really open game at their place as an example. What is clear is both of us will drop points and we probably need a 6 point swing against them in April.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:09 - Mar 15 with 1489 viewsDubtractor

A couple of weeks ago on here I started a thread asking if 87 points (what our run rate would result in at that point) would be enough for top 2.

I'd say with some confidence that 87 will be enough as it stands, possibly as low as 85, seeing as us, Boro and Millwall all have to play each other.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:11 - Mar 15 with 1478 viewsIllinoisblue

Boro talking 7,000 to Blackburn. Hopefully that will make it feel like a home game for them.

I’ve given up trying to compare the run-ins. It’s officially form-out-the-window time of the season. Sheff Weds aside, no result can really be predicted.

Strap in and buckle up!

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:15 - Mar 15 with 1433 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:11 - Mar 15 by Illinoisblue

Boro talking 7,000 to Blackburn. Hopefully that will make it feel like a home game for them.

I’ve given up trying to compare the run-ins. It’s officially form-out-the-window time of the season. Sheff Weds aside, no result can really be predicted.

Strap in and buckle up!


The beauty for all the 3 sides is they control their own destiny. I’d mentally prepared myself for playoffs after the Stoke result though. For Boro to score 1 point before we kicked a ball again, I don’t think anyone had that. Now it’s up to us.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:17 - Mar 15 with 1426 viewsbournemouthblue

I've definitely seen Boro and Cov fans saying they fear Millwall more

I'm not sure if it's delusion or just form, Millwall are limited but effective clearly, in the same way Hull are away from home

Millwall are clearly organised and good in a low block defensively, something which Boro fans seem to accept is their achilles heel

I've no doubt Boro as a footballing side could take it to us like few other sides at this level can

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:17 - Mar 15 with 1411 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:09 - Mar 15 by Dubtractor

A couple of weeks ago on here I started a thread asking if 87 points (what our run rate would result in at that point) would be enough for top 2.

I'd say with some confidence that 87 will be enough as it stands, possibly as low as 85, seeing as us, Boro and Millwall all have to play each other.


Minimum of 5 wins if 2 of those are against Boro and Hull has a chance, 6 wins and we beat both of them and we’d be in good shape. Can afford maybe 2 losses. We will surely draw a couple of other games as well.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:26 - Mar 15 with 1316 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:17 - Mar 15 by bournemouthblue

I've definitely seen Boro and Cov fans saying they fear Millwall more

I'm not sure if it's delusion or just form, Millwall are limited but effective clearly, in the same way Hull are away from home

Millwall are clearly organised and good in a low block defensively, something which Boro fans seem to accept is their achilles heel

I've no doubt Boro as a footballing side could take it to us like few other sides at this level can


On the form thing, I don’t even think we’ve played that well at times but since Wrexham is it 14 points out of 18? Could and should have really been maximum. There was some nice games in there but if we beat Millwall it would be actually be a promotion type form going into the INT break.

Massive game.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:38 - Mar 15 with 1226 viewsDarkBrandon

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 14:53 - Mar 15 by patrickswell

I still make Boro slight favourites because I think our run in is a little tougher than theirs. Although we have to play each other and both have to play Millwall, the only other game of Boro’s that strikes me as sticky is Wrexham away on the last day. They also have to go to Blackburn, but it’s at Ewood Park and Boro’s away form has been very good.

We have Birmingham at home which has draw written all over it, and trips to a revitalised Norwich who I’m sure will see the derby as a chance to really cement the work Clement’s been doing, a Southampton side who have the play offs in sight and Portsmouth and West Brom both of whom are fighting relegation and whose grounds could be a 12th man to them if we’re in one of our more melancholic moods.
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You look at our fixtures in exactly the way I do.

Sides challenging for the top two: Tough games
Sides challenging for the play-offs: Tough games
Sides in mid table: Tough games
Sides battling relegation: Tough games

And (like me) you look at Middlesboro’s fixtures and only see one or two tough games.

Happens in-game too.

We lead 1-0: scored too early. We’ll probably mess it up.
Boro lead 1-0: game over
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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:40 - Mar 15 with 1200 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:38 - Mar 15 by DarkBrandon

You look at our fixtures in exactly the way I do.

Sides challenging for the top two: Tough games
Sides challenging for the play-offs: Tough games
Sides in mid table: Tough games
Sides battling relegation: Tough games

And (like me) you look at Middlesboro’s fixtures and only see one or two tough games.

Happens in-game too.

We lead 1-0: scored too early. We’ll probably mess it up.
Boro lead 1-0: game over


We lead 1-0: scored too early. We’ll probably mess it up.
Boro lead 1-0: game over

Errr, you might want to check that.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:46 - Mar 15 with 1165 viewsDubtractor

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:26 - Mar 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

On the form thing, I don’t even think we’ve played that well at times but since Wrexham is it 14 points out of 18? Could and should have really been maximum. There was some nice games in there but if we beat Millwall it would be actually be a promotion type form going into the INT break.

Massive game.


There have been a few discussions on here about whether we are playing 'well', and I think some (not necessarily you) are seeing that we're not playing all action dominating football and concluding that we're getting lucky to get results, when I think we've probably just been a bit more pragmatic for the most part.

First half at Stoke was dreadful, yesterday played out exactly as you'd expect, but otherwise there hasn't been too much wrong in that 6 game run. We weren't properly on it against Leicester in the first half, but we weren't poor either. We're scored 12 and kept 4 clean sheets in that run too.

None of that changes the fact that April looks brutal, but if we get 4 or 6 points from the two big home games we'll be well set.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:48 - Mar 15 with 1152 viewsDubtractor

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:40 - Mar 15 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

We lead 1-0: scored too early. We’ll probably mess it up.
Boro lead 1-0: game over

Errr, you might want to check that.


That's the point, he's referring to the doom laden mentality of being a football fan, despite the evidence to the contrary.

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:50 - Mar 15 with 1131 viewsMrPotatoHead

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:09 - Mar 15 by Dubtractor

A couple of weeks ago on here I started a thread asking if 87 points (what our run rate would result in at that point) would be enough for top 2.

I'd say with some confidence that 87 will be enough as it stands, possibly as low as 85, seeing as us, Boro and Millwall all have to play each other.


Depends who our wins come against.
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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:52 - Mar 15 with 1113 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 15:48 - Mar 15 by Dubtractor

That's the point, he's referring to the doom laden mentality of being a football fan, despite the evidence to the contrary.


I think I need my coffee!

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The psychology of being 2nd for so long on 16:29 - Mar 15 with 897 viewsgainsboroughblue

They probably mentally gave us three points before the game even started given who we were playing. We probably didn't register too much yesterday due to that.

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