| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... 22:10 - Jun 16 with 2276 views | ITFC_Essex |
Allegedly. Quite a step back from some of the names we were sort of expecting to be in the mix for it. I guess Ole Gunnar Solskjær makes sense from a continuity standpoint, has some top level experience and connections whereas O'Neil fits the aspirational and younger British coach and "project" mould that Ashton seems to favour.
I hope whoever gets it, gets a few seasons to get it right and that we're not back scraping the barrel again come November. |  |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:22 - Jun 16 with 2125 views | radiogaga |
You’re completely right re the continuity point but I feel like OGS is a bit more than that. We are talking about a manager that has guided Man United to back to back top 3 finishes, and was trusted with leading one of the biggest clubs in world football at the same time as we were languishing in absolute obscurity in league one. |  |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:27 - Jun 16 with 2052 views | ITFC_Essex |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:22 - Jun 16 by radiogaga |
You’re completely right re the continuity point but I feel like OGS is a bit more than that. We are talking about a manager that has guided Man United to back to back top 3 finishes, and was trusted with leading one of the biggest clubs in world football at the same time as we were languishing in absolute obscurity in league one. |
It's not an exciting appointment on paper but maybe the right one. I just hope we stick to it and give him time if he's our man, we know our squad isn't Premier League ready yet and will need some real work to get there. He has a hard task of not only bedding in a new team but trying to keep us up and competitive at the same time.
I think it will be even harder this time as we had Leicester, Southampton, Wolves, Manchester United and Spurs all being pretty bad in one go. Chelsea and Spurs will be better this season too. | |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:30 - Jun 16 with 2037 views | LeoMuff |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:22 - Jun 16 by radiogaga |
You’re completely right re the continuity point but I feel like OGS is a bit more than that. We are talking about a manager that has guided Man United to back to back top 3 finishes, and was trusted with leading one of the biggest clubs in world football at the same time as we were languishing in absolute obscurity in league one. |
OGS has a win rate above 50% for Molde,Man U and Besiktas over 400 games. Only 30 games for Cardiff where things went awry, and wasn’t Tan quite a tricky one to work under ? |  |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:32 - Jun 16 with 2008 views | Vaughan8 |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:30 - Jun 16 by LeoMuff |
OGS has a win rate above 50% for Molde,Man U and Besiktas over 400 games. Only 30 games for Cardiff where things went awry, and wasn’t Tan quite a tricky one to work under ? |
All 3 are "top" teams in their league.
We won't be.
I don't see the appeal of OGS at all.
Pep won the PL however many times, but he'd probably get us relegated....! Its the other end of the table. [Post edited 16 Jun 22:33]
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:41 - Jun 16 with 1888 views | DarkBrandon |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:32 - Jun 16 by Vaughan8 |
All 3 are "top" teams in their league.
We won't be.
I don't see the appeal of OGS at all.
Pep won the PL however many times, but he'd probably get us relegated....! Its the other end of the table. [Post edited 16 Jun 22:33]
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Pep wouldn’t get us relegated |  | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:43 - Jun 16 with 1882 views | PioneerBlue |
I can see the logic and can be persuaded either way. All the way back to Burley we have seen the considerable value of the coaching team whereas a lot of stock is put in the lead coach themselves. That makes sense as the manager, but no matter who we pick a significant part of the sucess is what we put around them. | |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:48 - Jun 16 with 1842 views | ITFC_Forever |
No it’s not.
Who on earth were people expecting?
The likely candidates have all been pretty underwhelming. |  |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:18 - Jun 17 with 1378 views | darkhorse28 |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:22 - Jun 16 by radiogaga |
You’re completely right re the continuity point but I feel like OGS is a bit more than that. We are talking about a manager that has guided Man United to back to back top 3 finishes, and was trusted with leading one of the biggest clubs in world football at the same time as we were languishing in absolute obscurity in league one. |
And the time he’d finished we’d have beaten what he left as a legacy. As for his other roles, what’s the excuse there.
Awful record. Destroyed Utd financially. And his signings across his career are chillingly bad.
Nice guy, great player, maybe a decent coach, a truly dreadful manager, this would be poor in the EFL, at this level, it’s shocking.
One man. One football voice. One who. THIS is what happens. Status and profile and ego above elite performance.
What an opportunity this was to progress!!!! Wasted. His legacy at Utd was £400 million in players so bad they couldn’t sell! It took half a decade to work through the mess he left behind - and he 100% signed the players at other clubs, that were even worse.., go look at his record, it’s as bad as manger I’ve seen.
He’s easily the worse option. And yeah, Ashton probably will take the lazy status option, it’s him all over.
Pathetic if true - this will set us back decades.
What’s his record in the EFL if we go down? Also dreadful.
Only positive I can see is some Utd loans, and that’s not a great squad outside their core players either.
We need to stop being so passive with Ashton.., how is this good enough with our status and resources!! Ole wouldn’t get a job in the top EFL sides - no chance. | | | |
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| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:24 - Jun 17 with 1319 views | Luk38644 |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:18 - Jun 17 by darkhorse28 |
And the time he’d finished we’d have beaten what he left as a legacy. As for his other roles, what’s the excuse there.
Awful record. Destroyed Utd financially. And his signings across his career are chillingly bad.
Nice guy, great player, maybe a decent coach, a truly dreadful manager, this would be poor in the EFL, at this level, it’s shocking.
One man. One football voice. One who. THIS is what happens. Status and profile and ego above elite performance.
What an opportunity this was to progress!!!! Wasted. His legacy at Utd was £400 million in players so bad they couldn’t sell! It took half a decade to work through the mess he left behind - and he 100% signed the players at other clubs, that were even worse.., go look at his record, it’s as bad as manger I’ve seen.
He’s easily the worse option. And yeah, Ashton probably will take the lazy status option, it’s him all over.
Pathetic if true - this will set us back decades.
What’s his record in the EFL if we go down? Also dreadful.
Only positive I can see is some Utd loans, and that’s not a great squad outside their core players either.
We need to stop being so passive with Ashton.., how is this good enough with our status and resources!! Ole wouldn’t get a job in the top EFL sides - no chance. |
Do you ever get bored of being so negative for a wind up? |  | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:35 - Jun 17 with 1196 views | mrfixit426 |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:18 - Jun 17 by darkhorse28 |
And the time he’d finished we’d have beaten what he left as a legacy. As for his other roles, what’s the excuse there.
Awful record. Destroyed Utd financially. And his signings across his career are chillingly bad.
Nice guy, great player, maybe a decent coach, a truly dreadful manager, this would be poor in the EFL, at this level, it’s shocking.
One man. One football voice. One who. THIS is what happens. Status and profile and ego above elite performance.
What an opportunity this was to progress!!!! Wasted. His legacy at Utd was £400 million in players so bad they couldn’t sell! It took half a decade to work through the mess he left behind - and he 100% signed the players at other clubs, that were even worse.., go look at his record, it’s as bad as manger I’ve seen.
He’s easily the worse option. And yeah, Ashton probably will take the lazy status option, it’s him all over.
Pathetic if true - this will set us back decades.
What’s his record in the EFL if we go down? Also dreadful.
Only positive I can see is some Utd loans, and that’s not a great squad outside their core players either.
We need to stop being so passive with Ashton.., how is this good enough with our status and resources!! Ole wouldn’t get a job in the top EFL sides - no chance. |
Signings like:
Aaron Wan-Bissaka
Raphael Varane
Amad Diallo
Harry Maguire
and of course Bruno Fernandes?
Every manager has made mistakes in the transfer market, so I think you're being a little unfair here.
We're never going to be able to recruit the "perfect" manager with the "perfect" record. A dodgy spell at Cardiff 12/13 yrs ago isn't enough to hang someone for me. |  | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:41 - Jun 17 with 1142 views | HighgateBlue |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:48 - Jun 16 by ITFC_Forever |
No it’s not.
Who on earth were people expecting?
The likely candidates have all been pretty underwhelming. |
To be honest I've no idea what to expect anymore.
Certainly didn't have Kieran jumping ship on my bingo card, so I'd better not try to predict anything going forward!
But yeah, there are limits to how attractive a job it is, even though it's in the Premier League, there's lots of money to spend and we have a patient board. To an objective third party we're favourites for relegation, our squad needs a lot of work before kick off in 2 months, and we're not in a major international city.
It had already become difficult to attract squad also rans from big clubs because the wage differential is so massive. Now it's become impossible to attract the cast offs from the big club merry go round, because they're all on huge pay offs for doing nothing and can afford to take their time. I'm thinking of the likes of Thomas Frank.
I'd be optimistic and intrigued by OGS, if not blown away, but I have a feeling that no journalists actually know what the shortlist looks like or what stage Ashton has got to. |  | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 11:06 - Jun 17 with 1038 views | solemio |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:18 - Jun 17 by darkhorse28 |
And the time he’d finished we’d have beaten what he left as a legacy. As for his other roles, what’s the excuse there.
Awful record. Destroyed Utd financially. And his signings across his career are chillingly bad.
Nice guy, great player, maybe a decent coach, a truly dreadful manager, this would be poor in the EFL, at this level, it’s shocking.
One man. One football voice. One who. THIS is what happens. Status and profile and ego above elite performance.
What an opportunity this was to progress!!!! Wasted. His legacy at Utd was £400 million in players so bad they couldn’t sell! It took half a decade to work through the mess he left behind - and he 100% signed the players at other clubs, that were even worse.., go look at his record, it’s as bad as manger I’ve seen.
He’s easily the worse option. And yeah, Ashton probably will take the lazy status option, it’s him all over.
Pathetic if true - this will set us back decades.
What’s his record in the EFL if we go down? Also dreadful.
Only positive I can see is some Utd loans, and that’s not a great squad outside their core players either.
We need to stop being so passive with Ashton.., how is this good enough with our status and resources!! Ole wouldn’t get a job in the top EFL sides - no chance. |
Up arrow given by mistake. | | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 11:16 - Jun 17 with 973 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 10:18 - Jun 17 by darkhorse28 |
And the time he’d finished we’d have beaten what he left as a legacy. As for his other roles, what’s the excuse there.
Awful record. Destroyed Utd financially. And his signings across his career are chillingly bad.
Nice guy, great player, maybe a decent coach, a truly dreadful manager, this would be poor in the EFL, at this level, it’s shocking.
One man. One football voice. One who. THIS is what happens. Status and profile and ego above elite performance.
What an opportunity this was to progress!!!! Wasted. His legacy at Utd was £400 million in players so bad they couldn’t sell! It took half a decade to work through the mess he left behind - and he 100% signed the players at other clubs, that were even worse.., go look at his record, it’s as bad as manger I’ve seen.
He’s easily the worse option. And yeah, Ashton probably will take the lazy status option, it’s him all over.
Pathetic if true - this will set us back decades.
What’s his record in the EFL if we go down? Also dreadful.
Only positive I can see is some Utd loans, and that’s not a great squad outside their core players either.
We need to stop being so passive with Ashton.., how is this good enough with our status and resources!! Ole wouldn’t get a job in the top EFL sides - no chance. |
Reading all the comments about OGS , I really think it would be a big mistake appointing him .
2 comments in particular ......." not a good coach " and if he was any good other clubs would have been rushing to appoint him . As has been said , he has been at the top end of football , so his ambitions have been achieved .
We need someone that's a good coach and is hungry for success ....OGS is neither of those .
If you want an experienced manager , Rodgers would be the one , not OGS .
Slight delays if we want Knutsen , Barry etc , but worth waiting for a short time to get the right man | | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 11:36 - Jun 17 with 862 views | franz_tyson |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 22:22 - Jun 16 by radiogaga |
You’re completely right re the continuity point but I feel like OGS is a bit more than that. We are talking about a manager that has guided Man United to back to back top 3 finishes, and was trusted with leading one of the biggest clubs in world football at the same time as we were languishing in absolute obscurity in league one. |
Man U were hardly some mid-table club who over-achieved. They're one of -if not -the richest clubs in the world. Don't think OGS did an outstanding job there. And we shouldn't be starstruck in our decision-making. OGS had not only the biggest transfer budgets at his disposal, he also had the best coaches.
Things are different here.
From the CV, we're more akin to Cardiff.... and that was OGS' worst appointment on the record. | | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 11:39 - Jun 17 with 840 views | TractorJack |
I'd prefer GON over Ole, at least his experience is more relevant to our position. Not a fan of either though. |  | | |
| Ole Gunnar Solskjær and Gary O'Neil the leading men... on 11:42 - Jun 17 with 790 views | cressi |
Not sure it's as done and dusted as some would let u believe.
Until it's announced it's a ongoing process. | | | |
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