Vincent-Young: Chambers and Skuse Set Wonderful Example Friday, 10th Sep 2021 06:00
Former Town skipper Luke Chambers may no longer be part of the Portman Road furniture but his influence is still being felt at the club, Kane Vincent-Young has confirmed.
Chambers, who clocked up 396 appearances for the club, led a summer exodus from the Blues as manager Paul Cook set about a full-scale rebuild, bringing in 19 new senior players to give his side a brand new look.
One of the few players to have survived the cull, Vincent-Young admits he will continue to miss Chambers, who has dropped down to League Two with Colchester, and that the experienced defender was a perfect role medal in his time with Town.
Asked which of the departed players he will miss most, Vincent-Young replied: “That’s a tough question because I got on well with everybody. But thinking back to when I arrived at the club I’ll miss Luke Chambers and his personality massively because he was brilliant for me. When I first signed and again when I was out for a long time injured he never left me alone.
“We’re still in contact now and hopefully I’ll see him soon. I definitely miss him and will continue to miss him. When I think how Chambo and others like Cole Skuse conducted themselves I think to myself ‘That’s the way I want to be regarded by my teammates’.
“They set the most wonderful example to me and if I can be like them I’ll be extremely pleased.”
Vincent-Young is delighted to still be a part of the set-up under Cook and added: “It’s strange. I came in pre-season and things were completely different. It’s a shame to lose a lot of old teammates and good friends but we know the direction we want to go in and the manager has decided to bring all these new players in.
“I’m grateful to still be here and I’m working hard every day to try to cement my place in the team.
“I injured my shoulder at Shrewsbury in May and had to have an operation so I missed the meetings that were taking place. But I had a word with the manager when I came in during pre-season to get fitter and it was nice to hear I was in his plans.
“You can never take these things for granted. The squad we have now is full of completely different players and I wasn’t under any illusions. I knew I could be one of the players going out and I never took the situation lightly at all.
“Like I said, it has been very strange. In football nothing really surprises you anymore but it was strange initially. As the season has progressed, though, we have started to gel as a completely new team and things have started to feel a bit more normal.
“It’s very much a new chapter for the club. We have brought in a lot of talented, exciting players that are really good both on and off the pitch. It’s a direction I am really grateful to be going in with the club.”
Vincent-Young arrived from Colchester just over two years ago, impressing immediately, but injuries have cost him a lot of game time, to the extent that he has made just 20 first-team appearances.
He said: “It’s weird because I don’t really feel I’ve been here for an extremely long time but when I look around the dressing room I’m one of the longest-serving players so I see it as my duty to make the new guys feel welcome.
“I tell them about the area, ask them to let me know if they need anything and make sure I am there for them. It helps us, it helps the team and when new players come in you want to make them feel comfortable because that is going to help to get the best out of them on the pitch.”
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Good to hear the culture that Chambo was renowned for is still at the club in some capacity through Vincent-Young. It would be nice to have Chambers back at the club in a coaching role in the future, as he brings so much more than just his playing ability.
Sadly, so many Town fans did not understand Chambers and Skuse’s role at this Club and of the huge amount of work they did off the field. They certainly didn’t deserve vitriol dished out to them but some on here, when you consider some of the totally unprofessional players we’ve had at this Club that had almost hero status.
he impression I get is that although only an average player at best, he had more of a presence off the field than on it. Although you never know the real truth unless you were actually there, rumours are that his influence wasn’t always helpful to the various managers and although that’s partly their problem, it smells of disloyalty to me and that’s not something that sits well. Apparently after Cook arrived Android a few home truths, he took offence and became a back stabber and was one of those that downed tools, negatively affecting others. We’ve all witnessed his decline as a player and I’ve always considered that he was never the leader on the pitch I expected he would be - especially when the chips were down. The occasional fist pumping and cries of passion may have impressed some but when fans refer to him as a club legend, all I can do is laugh!
Still pretty obvious this forum sadly gets used to air more than a grouse ,more than a complaint ,too many criticisms that are based on a grudge mentality ; there’s room to believe and with some generosity ! Always try to look for the good and find the positives ! COYB Oh! And well said KVY !
bluewarrior, did you actually read the article above, and what KVY had to say about Chambo and Skuse? For all your conspiracy theories from a distance, here is someone who actually played, trained, worked and socialised with them both for 2 years, who has only good things to say about them. I think I know who I would believe.
Bluewarrior, one of the worst comments I've ever read on this forum! Chambers was an ever present for every manager he played for, and skipper for the vast majority. A model professional and example to younger players. Would a disruptive influence really clock up almost 400 appearances for his club?
Phoenix -it’s hardly a conspiracy theory and if you’re close to the goings on at the club you’ll know that I’m not an isolated voice in saying that Chambers was not all he’s made out to be. Assuming that nobody will try to argue that he is technically gifted, his game is based on effort over finesse, it was obvious that he threw in the towel under Cook which is utterly disgraceful for a ‘professional’ footballer - taking others down with him. Never a great leader or organiser on the pitch at the best of times, pretty awful as a player even at Div3 level and did very little as captain to arrest the slide of the worst town side in living memory. And yet some call him a legend 😂
Saxon - more a reflection of the declining standard of players (and managers)I struggle to remember a string of decent performances since Mick Mac’s days. Finally we get a decent manager with high standards and a decent playing budget and bingo Chambers is gone (to his obvious surprise), not even retained for his supposed positive dressing room influence.
We are all entitled to our own opinions, but as one who has followed The Town for well over 50 years, I would just like to say ‘Thank you Luke Chambers - you have been a tremendous servant to our Club!’
bluewarrior - I'm not going to argue that Chambo was a great player, and personally I wouldn't call him a legend as to achieve that accolade, I think you need to be a great player as well as playing in a team that is successful. But Chambo's best attribute was his personality and on field leadership - that just isn't up for debate. I hope he comes back in some form as a coach or mentor once his playing days are finally over.
I'm somewhat reluctant to get into this, because Chambers was with the club for so long, he undoubtedly went out of his way to welcome & help many new players coming to the club, possibly away from family for the first time, and also because we seem to have adopted the 'you either agree with everything I say or you are against me & are an unworthy voice' attitude that has taken over social & political discourse in recent years.
For all his effort & good work, it was absolutely right that Chambers leave the club at this time of change; and you could argue that it might have been best for Paul Hurst to have let him go when he came in - I suspect that it one of his many regrets that he didn't. The situation with Chambers reminds me of what happened with Rio Ferdinand when David Moyes took over at Man Utd; here was a player who was clearly past his best, although still good enough to be in the matchday squad, but who wielded a disproportionate amount of power & influence in the club and over the players. He never accepted Moyes and was instrumental in backlash against his methods & ultimately his sacking. Now the question over Moyes' suitability for the job is a big one & maybe it would always have been beyond him, but Sir Alex thought he was the best choice & we'll never know what would have happened had that aging squad of players bought into it. Was happened after he left was certainly not a success for the club, as they went nowhere, with no cogent plan for the future & a number of unmotivated players going through the motions as they went backwards under Van Gaal & Mourihno. Solskjaer may not be a Champions League winning manager, but he at least he a plan for the future, where he cleared out many of those that were not performing, brought through some youth & made the likes Rashford & Martial multi-million pound players again. My point is, there was a culture at Manchester United, just like there was at Ipswich; the kind of thing that Shane Supple was warning of more than 10 years ago. And just like Ferdinand embodied it at United, Luke Chambers, for all his decent qualities, embodied it here. We constantly refer to his great leadership & presence around the club for a decade; but what did that achieve for us? Of course there were factors outside of his influence, but speaking specifically about what he brought to the club in terms of improving it & driving it forward, I don't see it & in fact very much see the opposite. Results, attitudes, morale, culture all deteriorated in the time that he was the most senior & significant figure in the dressing room and behind the scenes. On arrival, Paul Cook (and I've had my issues over some of his management style) felt that he needed to not just get some new players in, but jettison pretty much the entire playing staff in one transfer window, such was the malaise he witnessed in the bunch he inherited. We have cast off undoubtedly skilled footballers, many of whom came through our own academy, who never reached their potential; players like Dozzell, Bishop, Nydam, Lankester, Kenlock & Downes that we had legitimately high hopes for all gone, and why? Attitude, application & character appear to be main reasons given. He had to get them out of the club, even if we didn't get their full value. A lot of that comes down to the culture at the club; and like it or not, a lot of that comes down to the influential senior players, the senior players who set the tone for the younger ones to follow. Luke Chambers had been in that position for years. As I said above, a nice man & undoubtedly decent in how he welcomed young players into the club, but real leadership, in any walk of life, is about a lot more that being a nice guy to new recruits; and success is the determining factor in whether someone has that skill or not.
Good to hear from KVY, he comes across as a solid professional. Regarding Chambers, I think both sides of the argument are right. As a person he was top dog here for many years, and everyone in that position will feel upset at anyone new that comes in and questions that. So yes he can be a good guy, but just struggled to deal with a major change to the system he was used to. You could see it in the field too, he had heart and was a solid professional, but as people have mentioned, when the chips were down, he struggled and wasn't as an effective leader. It doesn't make him bad. We all have skills and shortcomings, too often we forget these footballers are human beings and are just as fallible as us, and no one is at 100% physically and mentally all the time, which affects how we perform all kinds of tasks.
Chambers did not throw in the towel under Cook. That’s absolute nonsense. He was desperate to stay and in no way came across as the type to give up at any point. Chambers saw his role as Captain as on and off the pitch. I’d also point out he was more than good enough to wrack up hundreds of championship appearances for us and Forest. He was only told last minute by Cook he’d changed his mind about keeping him, so bluewarrior at what point did he throw the towel in?