| Jeeza. 06:35 - Jun 22 with 70476 views | Benters |
Has this man no shame?
He has no repect for the Queen,i can see that.
This is why i will never vote labour with that trouble making tool in charge.
Rule Britannia. |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:10 - Jun 23 with 5338 views | BorisOrTrevor |
| Jeeza. on 21:03 - Jun 22 by Darth_Koont |
Hehe.
You're not fit to lick the shoes of most of the modern generation. They've got more empathy and sense of what's right in their little finger etc.
You could learn a lot from them. But you won't. |
How old are you out of interest? |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 with 5316 views | BorisOrTrevor |
| Jeeza. on 08:16 - Jun 23 by RoyKeanesDog |
Whilst your point would be valid for nearly everybody else on this board, I have no sympathy if for taximan and Benters. |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. | |
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| Jeeza. on 10:27 - Jun 23 with 5296 views | noggin |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
lol. |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:28 - Jun 23 with 5295 views | BlueLikeJazz |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
"the clown is entitled to his opinions "
He's entitled to his own opinions, he's not entitled to his own facts. He also isn't entitled to the uncritical adulation him and his little gang of cheerleaders seem to think he's entitled to.
The rest of your post is just tedious sneering. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 10:28]
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| Jeeza. on 10:32 - Jun 23 with 5259 views | Darth_Koont |
| Jeeza. on 10:10 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
How old are you out of interest? |
47.
Why are you interested? |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:34 - Jun 23 with 5250 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Jeeza. on 08:24 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You are correct. Kensington and Chelsea is a Conservative controlled borough. But that is completely irrelevant in the context of what caused the fire or how the fire spread.
Five blocks in Labour controlled Camden have also been clad with the same material, which is now to be removed as quickly as possible. Had a fridge caught fire in one of the Camden flats would the same people trying to make political capital out of this tragedy? (I'm not saying you have been doing that. From what I've seen your posts on the subject have been very informative)
Across the country, 600 blocks have been clad with the same materials as those at Grenfell Tower. These are under control of Tory, Labour and Liberal councils.
The cladding of tower blocks began under the Blair government whose Decent Homes Initiative, which demanded that 95% of social housing be brought up to specified insulation standards by 2010 but which failed to lay down adequate fire standards. It was a Labour-controlled Southwark Council which was fined half a million quid for the fatal fire at Lakanal House in Camberwell in 2009 which was found to have spread as a result of renovation work.
This practice of cladding has continued under the coalition and under a Tory government.
If a political party is to blame then all three are at fault. So my view is rather than non Tory politicians and their supporters trying to make political capital out of the tragedy we should find out as soon as possible what cause the fire to spread and what can be done to prevent another tragedy like this happening. Surely that is more important than scoring points?
We can't bring back the dead but we can do out very best to ensure this type of tragedy never happens again. I just wish our politicians would get together, out asudebtheir differences and make that happen. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 9:48]
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While your points are valid, he was responding to someone saying it's a Labour controlled borough when it isn't. |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:36 - Jun 23 with 5240 views | Ryorry |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
You completely invalidate your entire post when you utter such insults as
"But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day."
Have you ever read BlueBadger's (NHS hospital nurse) posts on how he's run off his feet for his entire extraordinarily long shifts because of under-funding/under-staffing; or the hundreds of posts from a whole range of teachers, or people related to teachers exhausted on a regular basis after doing 60 hr+ weeks every week & working during their "holidays" too? |  |
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| Jeeza. on 10:38 - Jun 23 with 5229 views | BlueLikeJazz |
| Jeeza. on 10:36 - Jun 23 by Ryorry |
You completely invalidate your entire post when you utter such insults as
"But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day."
Have you ever read BlueBadger's (NHS hospital nurse) posts on how he's run off his feet for his entire extraordinarily long shifts because of under-funding/under-staffing; or the hundreds of posts from a whole range of teachers, or people related to teachers exhausted on a regular basis after doing 60 hr+ weeks every week & working during their "holidays" too? |
Here's another public sector worker with nothing better to do:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/18/26-year-old-female-firefighter-sent-t | | | |
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| Jeeza. on 10:41 - Jun 23 with 5215 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Jeeza. on 07:44 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
I respect Jezza for not bowing to the Queen. He is a lifelong republican and would be a hypocrite if he did bow.
If this thread had been started by anyone else people would have either agreed or disagreed with the op. The thread would have ended after page one.
Instead we have seven pages of abuse and bullying, including the brining in up of a bloke's life threatening illness.
I've disagreed with benters over numerous subjects. He has made comments which I have told him are unnaceptable. But this thread is like watching a group of teenagers cornering a wounded dog and poking it with a stick. It's going to lash out and bite.
TBH it's reminding me of the last days of Tractir Girl when people would keep pushing her buttons in the hope she'd say something controversial, then they'd start ten pages of mock indignation.
Some people on here should feel utterly ashamed of themselves. Especially the last few contributions which I think have crossed the line. |
You're way out I'm afraid. This isn't bullying - it is stuff Benters has brought on himself. Ask yourself why a thread like this isn't directed at anyone else.
Also the "bringing in up of a bloke's life threatening illness" was done by himself.
Though he said most who supported him don't post here now - I supported him. I even congratulated him in person and shook his hand. His response? He mocked me when I was feeling suicidal after splitting up with my girlfriend while many others (including yourself - thanks) sent messages of support. He's now also saying in this thread that he's never liked me.
I don't know why you're defending him. The bloke's clearly a nasty piece of work (on here at least) and pretty much all the comments I've read in this thread I'd describe as 'fair game'.
You reap what you sow. | |
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| Jeeza. on 10:41 - Jun 23 with 5212 views | Swailsey |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
How old are you out of interest?
You appear to have the views of a child, so I can only assume once you have more perspective on the world, you will change them.
Best of luck. |  |
| Who said: "Colin Healy made Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy"? | We miss you TLA |
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| Jeeza. on 10:43 - Jun 23 with 5193 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jeeza. on 10:34 - Jun 23 by Dolly2.0 |
While your points are valid, he was responding to someone saying it's a Labour controlled borough when it isn't. |
Yes I know he was. That's why the first three words I typed in my post were "You are correct". I also said that Clapham_Junction is not one of those people who has been using the tragedy for political point scoring and that his posts on the subject have been "very informative".
My post was to say that with flats in Labour controlled Camden also clad with the same material. the political make up of the council is irrelevant and more a case of "there but for the grace of God".
Edit. Just on the news that the fire was started by a Hotpoint Fridge Freezer and the insulation was more flammable than the cladding. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 10:47]
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| Jeeza. on 10:34 - Jun 23 by Dolly2.0 |
While your points are valid, he was responding to someone saying it's a Labour controlled borough when it isn't. |
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| Jeeza. on 10:48 - Jun 23 with 5161 views | Archer4721 |
| Jeeza. on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Dolly2.0 |
You're way out I'm afraid. This isn't bullying - it is stuff Benters has brought on himself. Ask yourself why a thread like this isn't directed at anyone else.
Also the "bringing in up of a bloke's life threatening illness" was done by himself.
Though he said most who supported him don't post here now - I supported him. I even congratulated him in person and shook his hand. His response? He mocked me when I was feeling suicidal after splitting up with my girlfriend while many others (including yourself - thanks) sent messages of support. He's now also saying in this thread that he's never liked me.
I don't know why you're defending him. The bloke's clearly a nasty piece of work (on here at least) and pretty much all the comments I've read in this thread I'd describe as 'fair game'.
You reap what you sow. |
He's always on here defending the rabid right wingers Dollers.
He just can't help himself. |  | | |
| Jeeza. on 10:49 - Jun 23 with 5164 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jeeza. on 10:48 - Jun 23 by Archer4721 |
He's always on here defending the rabid right wingers Dollers.
He just can't help himself. |
And on the div list you go. There really is no point to you is there? | |
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| Jeeza. on 10:52 - Jun 23 with 5153 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jeeza. on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Dolly2.0 |
You're way out I'm afraid. This isn't bullying - it is stuff Benters has brought on himself. Ask yourself why a thread like this isn't directed at anyone else.
Also the "bringing in up of a bloke's life threatening illness" was done by himself.
Though he said most who supported him don't post here now - I supported him. I even congratulated him in person and shook his hand. His response? He mocked me when I was feeling suicidal after splitting up with my girlfriend while many others (including yourself - thanks) sent messages of support. He's now also saying in this thread that he's never liked me.
I don't know why you're defending him. The bloke's clearly a nasty piece of work (on here at least) and pretty much all the comments I've read in this thread I'd describe as 'fair game'.
You reap what you sow. |
I'm not defending benters. I am criticising others for constant baiting and bullying.
I have made it perfectly clear that I disagree with Benters on most of his views. | |
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| Jeeza. on 11:02 - Jun 23 with 5124 views | BlueNomad |
| Jeeza. on 18:48 - Jun 22 by Benters |
Its becuase the majority on here are liberal leftie loons.
Nothing is their fault,they want to buy houses,yet cant afford them,so rather than saving for a mortgage and working a bit harder,its easier to blame the system.
Modern times im affraid. |
I worked hard, paid for my house etc and never claimed a thing. I am also a proud socialist who cares about society and tolerance; hating the hard-right, intolerant, "me first", chip on the shoulder attitude that seems to be so prevalent amongst some.
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| Jeeza. on 11:08 - Jun 23 with 5082 views | Archer4721 |
| Jeeza. on 10:49 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
And on the div list you go. There really is no point to you is there? |
Arf.
I'm honoured! | | | |
| Jeeza. on 11:13 - Jun 23 with 5069 views | LankHenners |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
Ah, the 'old man out of touch with younger generation resorts to unpleasant sneering' complex.
Complete with the (sadly common) failure to grasp that being entitled to an opinion doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with it, and is perfectly allowed to come back with an opposing opinion. |  |
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| Jeeza. on 11:25 - Jun 23 with 5024 views | BoardPolice |
Hello, Hello, Hello. What's going on here then. I take my eye off the ball and a bit of a rumpus breaks out.
I don't want to have to start getting heavy, bringing in the water cannons and wotnot, so I will request that however much you all disagree with each other, however ill-informed or objectionable you find each other's view, kindly stick to reason when responding.
I am sharpening my taser right now.
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| Jeeza. on 11:31 - Jun 23 with 4996 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Jeeza. on 08:24 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You are correct. Kensington and Chelsea is a Conservative controlled borough. But that is completely irrelevant in the context of what caused the fire or how the fire spread.
Five blocks in Labour controlled Camden have also been clad with the same material, which is now to be removed as quickly as possible. Had a fridge caught fire in one of the Camden flats would the same people trying to make political capital out of this tragedy? (I'm not saying you have been doing that. From what I've seen your posts on the subject have been very informative)
Across the country, 600 blocks have been clad with the same materials as those at Grenfell Tower. These are under control of Tory, Labour and Liberal councils.
The cladding of tower blocks began under the Blair government whose Decent Homes Initiative, which demanded that 95% of social housing be brought up to specified insulation standards by 2010 but which failed to lay down adequate fire standards. It was a Labour-controlled Southwark Council which was fined half a million quid for the fatal fire at Lakanal House in Camberwell in 2009 which was found to have spread as a result of renovation work.
This practice of cladding has continued under the coalition and under a Tory government.
If a political party is to blame then all three are at fault. So my view is rather than non Tory politicians and their supporters trying to make political capital out of the tragedy we should find out as soon as possible what cause the fire to spread and what can be done to prevent another tragedy like this happening. Surely that is more important than scoring points?
We can't bring back the dead but we can do out very best to ensure this type of tragedy never happens again. I just wish our politicians would get together, out asudebtheir differences and make that happen. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 9:48]
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You missed the entire point of why I made the comment - it was a response to a claim that "The change in management of these blocks was brought in by labour".
I suspect this is why you got downvoted.
[edit] Just seen Dolly has already pointed this out. Apologies. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 11:34]
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| Jeeza. on 11:37 - Jun 23 with 4970 views | Archer4721 |
| Jeeza. on 08:24 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You are correct. Kensington and Chelsea is a Conservative controlled borough. But that is completely irrelevant in the context of what caused the fire or how the fire spread.
Five blocks in Labour controlled Camden have also been clad with the same material, which is now to be removed as quickly as possible. Had a fridge caught fire in one of the Camden flats would the same people trying to make political capital out of this tragedy? (I'm not saying you have been doing that. From what I've seen your posts on the subject have been very informative)
Across the country, 600 blocks have been clad with the same materials as those at Grenfell Tower. These are under control of Tory, Labour and Liberal councils.
The cladding of tower blocks began under the Blair government whose Decent Homes Initiative, which demanded that 95% of social housing be brought up to specified insulation standards by 2010 but which failed to lay down adequate fire standards. It was a Labour-controlled Southwark Council which was fined half a million quid for the fatal fire at Lakanal House in Camberwell in 2009 which was found to have spread as a result of renovation work.
This practice of cladding has continued under the coalition and under a Tory government.
If a political party is to blame then all three are at fault. So my view is rather than non Tory politicians and their supporters trying to make political capital out of the tragedy we should find out as soon as possible what cause the fire to spread and what can be done to prevent another tragedy like this happening. Surely that is more important than scoring points?
We can't bring back the dead but we can do out very best to ensure this type of tragedy never happens again. I just wish our politicians would get together, out asudebtheir differences and make that happen. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 9:48]
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Deary me. Another copy and paste job from The Spectator.
Can't you ever post anything written by your own hand?
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/labour-lib-dems-much-blame-tories-grenfell [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 11:41]
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| Jeeza. on 11:40 - Jun 23 with 4961 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Jeeza. on 10:52 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm not defending benters. I am criticising others for constant baiting and bullying.
I have made it perfectly clear that I disagree with Benters on most of his views. |
You are coming to his defence whether intended or not. And as I've said - it's not bullying. People are pulling him up on the things he says. People should be challenged if they're out of line. That's not bullying. | |
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| Jeeza. on 11:46 - Jun 23 with 4936 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Jeeza. on 11:40 - Jun 23 by Dolly2.0 |
You are coming to his defence whether intended or not. And as I've said - it's not bullying. People are pulling him up on the things he says. People should be challenged if they're out of line. That's not bullying. |
We will agree to disagree. | |
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| Jeeza. on 11:53 - Jun 23 with 4912 views | vapour_trail |
| Jeeza. on 10:23 - Jun 23 by BorisOrTrevor |
arent you the chap who likes to bask in the sunlight if getting arrested at a football match?!
What we have on this thread is an uneven fight between a bunch of self righteous windbags and the village clown, the clown is entitled to his opinions and to call them disgusting is pathetic.
One thing I will say, the people of your generation( as this seems to be more millennial griping) who are buying a house, there are some tough as it is, are very likely not the types to spend hours posting left wing guff and whining on a football forum. But hey, a lot of you seem to also work in the public sector so you probably don't have much to do to fill your day. |
I've been avoiding commenting on this thread, but even after six pages of it, you've managed to make everything else before you appear in a more positive light, relative to your own contribution.
Well done you. |  |
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| Jeeza. on 11:56 - Jun 23 with 4895 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Jeeza. on 10:43 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Yes I know he was. That's why the first three words I typed in my post were "You are correct". I also said that Clapham_Junction is not one of those people who has been using the tragedy for political point scoring and that his posts on the subject have been "very informative".
My post was to say that with flats in Labour controlled Camden also clad with the same material. the political make up of the council is irrelevant and more a case of "there but for the grace of God".
Edit. Just on the news that the fire was started by a Hotpoint Fridge Freezer and the insulation was more flammable than the cladding. [Post edited 23 Jun 2017 10:47]
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Although the cladding failed fire safety tests itself. I expect manslaughter chargers.
A tragedy like this is bad enough without thinking that for spending a few quid more it could've been entirely preventable. | |
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