| Adam Peaty 09:44 - Jul 26 with 6448 views | StokieBlue |
He's becoming something really special in the pool. WR in the 100m breaststroke a few days ago (he now has the 10 fastest times ever) and then 2 WR in the same day in the 50m breastroke (has the 5 fastest times ever).
Can watch the 2 WR in the same day at this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/swimming/40714957
He's the only person to ever go under 26 seconds for 50m and he's the only person under 57 seconds for the 100m and is aiming to get into the 56's soon.
Amazing stuff.
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| Adam Peaty on 09:49 - Jul 26 with 5765 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Watching the overhead shots of the Russian that comes second......if he could learn to swim properly he could be really good !! [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 17:22]
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| Adam Peaty on 09:49 - Jul 26 with 5777 views | gtsb1966 |
And I bet there are a few people who unfortunately are wondering how he has done it if you know what I mean . |  | | |
| Adam Peaty on 10:06 - Jul 26 with 5734 views | The_Romford_Blue |
He's the best we have at any sport in the world in my opinion. He's so much better than anybody else it's unreal.
Realistically, his performance at the Rio Olympics should've been enough for him to win SPOTY. He was literally winning every race by 2 seconds in that in 26 second races. Bonkers. |  |
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| Adam Peaty on 10:27 - Jul 26 with 5692 views | chicoazul |
As someone who swam at a fairly decent level Peaty is my current favourite sportsman. He even got me eating Quorn. I hope to God he is clean. |  |
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| Adam Peaty on 10:28 - Jul 26 with 5687 views | StokieBlue |
| Adam Peaty on 10:27 - Jul 26 by chicoazul |
As someone who swam at a fairly decent level Peaty is my current favourite sportsman. He even got me eating Quorn. I hope to God he is clean. |
No hint that he isn't is there?
Just a freak, which is usually the way in swimming (look at Phelps, Thorpe etc).
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| Adam Peaty on 10:32 - Jul 26 with 5675 views | chicoazul |
| Adam Peaty on 10:28 - Jul 26 by StokieBlue |
No hint that he isn't is there?
Just a freak, which is usually the way in swimming (look at Phelps, Thorpe etc).
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Course, no hint whatsoever. | |
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| Adam Peaty on 10:40 - Jul 26 with 5667 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Adam Peaty on 10:06 - Jul 26 by The_Romford_Blue |
He's the best we have at any sport in the world in my opinion. He's so much better than anybody else it's unreal.
Realistically, his performance at the Rio Olympics should've been enough for him to win SPOTY. He was literally winning every race by 2 seconds in that in 26 second races. Bonkers. |
I actually know Adam relatively well. All I can say is that of all the athletes that I have ever worked with or been in contact with, there are very few with his professionalism. His attention to detail is phenomenal and is like a sponge when working with support staff (Sport Psych, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, Lifestyle) which also happen to be world class and he has been that way since he was first put on programme, so what we are seeing now is the result 10+ years worth of dedication, which at the age of 22 is rare given the standard maturation but that is what currently sets him apart
As for SPOTY, he is hampered by being a stroke specialist. For example not many Breaststroke swimmers can swim any other strokes. If he was a Fresstyle swimmer he could have come back from Rio with 6 or 7 medals across Freestyle, Butterfly and Relay. [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 10:41]
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| Adam Peaty on 10:41 - Jul 26 with 5655 views | dirtyboy |
| Adam Peaty on 09:49 - Jul 26 by gtsb1966 |
And I bet there are a few people who unfortunately are wondering how he has done it if you know what I mean . |
British Swimming is very closely monitored, they even do urine tests at junior level in this country.
A girl my son swims with is at the Summer Nationals today and she was given a list of banned substances, even some common medicines are not allowed, she's 13.
Peaty will be clean. His turnover rate is what makes him so special, there's bigger stronger guys in there, he's just got that perfect balance between strength and speed. Mel is a cracking coach and that too makes a big difference. Phelps had Bowman, Ledecky had Gemmel and now with Greg Meehan. Top coaches and top athletes together produce dominant athletes. |  | | |
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| Adam Peaty on 10:49 - Jul 26 with 5635 views | Heathlander |
| Adam Peaty on 10:27 - Jul 26 by chicoazul |
As someone who swam at a fairly decent level Peaty is my current favourite sportsman. He even got me eating Quorn. I hope to God he is clean. |
He should be clean the amount of time he spends in the water. |  | | |
| Adam Peaty on 10:51 - Jul 26 with 5622 views | Heathlander |
| Adam Peaty on 10:40 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I actually know Adam relatively well. All I can say is that of all the athletes that I have ever worked with or been in contact with, there are very few with his professionalism. His attention to detail is phenomenal and is like a sponge when working with support staff (Sport Psych, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, Lifestyle) which also happen to be world class and he has been that way since he was first put on programme, so what we are seeing now is the result 10+ years worth of dedication, which at the age of 22 is rare given the standard maturation but that is what currently sets him apart
As for SPOTY, he is hampered by being a stroke specialist. For example not many Breaststroke swimmers can swim any other strokes. If he was a Fresstyle swimmer he could have come back from Rio with 6 or 7 medals across Freestyle, Butterfly and Relay. [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 10:41]
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Considering he is like a sponge this makes his achievements even more remarkable.
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| Adam Peaty on 10:54 - Jul 26 with 5596 views | dirtyboy |
| Adam Peaty on 10:40 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I actually know Adam relatively well. All I can say is that of all the athletes that I have ever worked with or been in contact with, there are very few with his professionalism. His attention to detail is phenomenal and is like a sponge when working with support staff (Sport Psych, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, Lifestyle) which also happen to be world class and he has been that way since he was first put on programme, so what we are seeing now is the result 10+ years worth of dedication, which at the age of 22 is rare given the standard maturation but that is what currently sets him apart
As for SPOTY, he is hampered by being a stroke specialist. For example not many Breaststroke swimmers can swim any other strokes. If he was a Fresstyle swimmer he could have come back from Rio with 6 or 7 medals across Freestyle, Butterfly and Relay. [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 10:41]
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| Adam Peaty on 10:59 - Jul 26 with 5577 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Adam Peaty on 10:54 - Jul 26 by dirtyboy |
Are/were you a swimmer? |
Nope, never was very good. But I've worked for a number of Governing Bodies in their 'World Class' Programmes and at UKSport and have been working with British Swimming recently.
I Must admit that the processes in place are providing an incredible environment for successes like Peaty to happen and hopefully be replicated across the pathway as some of the Junior swimmers are making some incredible strides this summer in the European and World Junior championships. | | | |
| Adam Peaty on 11:02 - Jul 26 with 5564 views | hype313 |
| Adam Peaty on 10:40 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I actually know Adam relatively well. All I can say is that of all the athletes that I have ever worked with or been in contact with, there are very few with his professionalism. His attention to detail is phenomenal and is like a sponge when working with support staff (Sport Psych, Strength & Conditioning, Nutrition, Lifestyle) which also happen to be world class and he has been that way since he was first put on programme, so what we are seeing now is the result 10+ years worth of dedication, which at the age of 22 is rare given the standard maturation but that is what currently sets him apart
As for SPOTY, he is hampered by being a stroke specialist. For example not many Breaststroke swimmers can swim any other strokes. If he was a Fresstyle swimmer he could have come back from Rio with 6 or 7 medals across Freestyle, Butterfly and Relay. [Post edited 26 Jul 2017 10:41]
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Just a shame that in this day in age as soon as someone breaks a world record the first thing people say is I bet he/she is on gear, rather than well done, what an achievement. |  |
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| Adam Peaty on 11:04 - Jul 26 with 5557 views | StokieBlue |
| Adam Peaty on 11:02 - Jul 26 by hype313 |
Just a shame that in this day in age as soon as someone breaks a world record the first thing people say is I bet he/she is on gear, rather than well done, what an achievement. |
Nobody says that about Bolt.
Can you imagine what would happen if he wasn't clean - it would end athletics with the meltdown.
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| Adam Peaty on 11:05 - Jul 26 with 5555 views | gtsb1966 |
| Adam Peaty on 11:02 - Jul 26 by hype313 |
Just a shame that in this day in age as soon as someone breaks a world record the first thing people say is I bet he/she is on gear, rather than well done, what an achievement. |
My thoughts exactly although that Chinese woman who broke a world record by about 25 seconds in the athletics at the Beijing Olympics might be a bit iffy. | | | |
| Adam Peaty on 11:11 - Jul 26 with 5543 views | hype313 |
| Adam Peaty on 11:04 - Jul 26 by StokieBlue |
Nobody says that about Bolt.
Can you imagine what would happen if he wasn't clean - it would end athletics with the meltdown.
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It would be game over for the Olympics as an event imo, sounds like hyperbole but if Bolt were to be found guilty of that it's over.
Interestingly I read yesterday how they are struggling to find locations for the next few Olympics, think LA and Paris have the 2024 and 2028 games but have been told to sort out who goes first, no other city bothered to compete, likewise winter Olympic bids was between two cities. | |
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| Adam Peaty on 11:20 - Jul 26 with 5517 views | chicoazul |
| Adam Peaty on 10:49 - Jul 26 by Heathlander |
He should be clean the amount of time he spends in the water. |
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| Adam Peaty on 11:21 - Jul 26 with 5514 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Adam Peaty on 11:11 - Jul 26 by hype313 |
It would be game over for the Olympics as an event imo, sounds like hyperbole but if Bolt were to be found guilty of that it's over.
Interestingly I read yesterday how they are struggling to find locations for the next few Olympics, think LA and Paris have the 2024 and 2028 games but have been told to sort out who goes first, no other city bothered to compete, likewise winter Olympic bids was between two cities. |
Ridiculous situation imo
Paris and LA both bid for the 2024 Games, neither of them are particularly keen to host the 2028 Games and every host has been given 7 years notice until now.. This could backfire spectacularly as 11 years is an awful long time for political and economical shifts to occur and hosts being unwilling/unable to host a successful Games.
The IOC may have to reconsider their rules of continents taking it in turn as I'm sure that the USA, Asia and European countries would be more capable of hosting more regularly if necessary | | | |
| Adam Peaty on 11:23 - Jul 26 with 5512 views | chicoazul |
| Adam Peaty on 10:59 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
Nope, never was very good. But I've worked for a number of Governing Bodies in their 'World Class' Programmes and at UKSport and have been working with British Swimming recently.
I Must admit that the processes in place are providing an incredible environment for successes like Peaty to happen and hopefully be replicated across the pathway as some of the Junior swimmers are making some incredible strides this summer in the European and World Junior championships. |
I'm very interested in the ongoing controversies about 'culture' and 'bullying' within these bodies and training camps, for instance cycling and swimming. It seems a cost of success is an absolutely harsh culture which many British athletes werent/arent used to. Do you think this is fair? | |
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| Adam Peaty on 11:29 - Jul 26 with 5495 views | Heathlander |
| Adam Peaty on 10:51 - Jul 26 by Heathlander |
Considering he is like a sponge this makes his achievements even more remarkable.
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two top swimming jokes in one thread, no likes. Tough crowd :) | | | |
| Adam Peaty on 12:48 - Jul 26 with 5401 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Adam Peaty on 11:23 - Jul 26 by chicoazul |
I'm very interested in the ongoing controversies about 'culture' and 'bullying' within these bodies and training camps, for instance cycling and swimming. It seems a cost of success is an absolutely harsh culture which many British athletes werent/arent used to. Do you think this is fair? |
I think it is a bit of a tricky one to talk about in too much detail but I can give you my take on things (my personal view only)
Athletes are given 'Athlete Performance Award' (APA) based on their performance and potential, therefore Governing Bodies are 'investing' in the athlete.
If that athlete is either not performing or falling behind the progression rate required then naturally difficult conversations will have to be had. And the crux of it is, There aren't many ways of sugar coating "You're not good enough" and "If you don't achive X, we'll strip you of your funding". As we work in a business where marginal gains can be the difference between Olympic Gold and not even making the flight to the comp
Clearly the extremes are when coaches are not being held accountable for their communication and tone they use and set an environment where there is a dictatorship, which I can happily say I have not been witness to. Also the processes I have seen have been incredibly rigorous with athletes attending orientation days, signing athlete agreements & getting clear communication is what is expected of an athlete on programme. There is also regular meetings and reviews based on behavior, lifestyle as well as performance so from my POV the issues whilst extremely serious and need to be dealt with, are not widespread. | | | |
| Adam Peaty on 13:16 - Jul 26 with 5368 views | chicoazul |
| Adam Peaty on 12:48 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I think it is a bit of a tricky one to talk about in too much detail but I can give you my take on things (my personal view only)
Athletes are given 'Athlete Performance Award' (APA) based on their performance and potential, therefore Governing Bodies are 'investing' in the athlete.
If that athlete is either not performing or falling behind the progression rate required then naturally difficult conversations will have to be had. And the crux of it is, There aren't many ways of sugar coating "You're not good enough" and "If you don't achive X, we'll strip you of your funding". As we work in a business where marginal gains can be the difference between Olympic Gold and not even making the flight to the comp
Clearly the extremes are when coaches are not being held accountable for their communication and tone they use and set an environment where there is a dictatorship, which I can happily say I have not been witness to. Also the processes I have seen have been incredibly rigorous with athletes attending orientation days, signing athlete agreements & getting clear communication is what is expected of an athlete on programme. There is also regular meetings and reviews based on behavior, lifestyle as well as performance so from my POV the issues whilst extremely serious and need to be dealt with, are not widespread. |
Thanks. Very interesting insight. | |
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| Adam Peaty on 13:18 - Jul 26 with 5364 views | hype313 |
| Adam Peaty on 12:48 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I think it is a bit of a tricky one to talk about in too much detail but I can give you my take on things (my personal view only)
Athletes are given 'Athlete Performance Award' (APA) based on their performance and potential, therefore Governing Bodies are 'investing' in the athlete.
If that athlete is either not performing or falling behind the progression rate required then naturally difficult conversations will have to be had. And the crux of it is, There aren't many ways of sugar coating "You're not good enough" and "If you don't achive X, we'll strip you of your funding". As we work in a business where marginal gains can be the difference between Olympic Gold and not even making the flight to the comp
Clearly the extremes are when coaches are not being held accountable for their communication and tone they use and set an environment where there is a dictatorship, which I can happily say I have not been witness to. Also the processes I have seen have been incredibly rigorous with athletes attending orientation days, signing athlete agreements & getting clear communication is what is expected of an athlete on programme. There is also regular meetings and reviews based on behavior, lifestyle as well as performance so from my POV the issues whilst extremely serious and need to be dealt with, are not widespread. |
Whilst one could view that as quite harsh, elite sport isn't for the fainthearted.
The LTA could learn a lot form the BOA. | |
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| Adam Peaty on 14:10 - Jul 26 with 5315 views | Portwoman |
| Adam Peaty on 12:48 - Jul 26 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I think it is a bit of a tricky one to talk about in too much detail but I can give you my take on things (my personal view only)
Athletes are given 'Athlete Performance Award' (APA) based on their performance and potential, therefore Governing Bodies are 'investing' in the athlete.
If that athlete is either not performing or falling behind the progression rate required then naturally difficult conversations will have to be had. And the crux of it is, There aren't many ways of sugar coating "You're not good enough" and "If you don't achive X, we'll strip you of your funding". As we work in a business where marginal gains can be the difference between Olympic Gold and not even making the flight to the comp
Clearly the extremes are when coaches are not being held accountable for their communication and tone they use and set an environment where there is a dictatorship, which I can happily say I have not been witness to. Also the processes I have seen have been incredibly rigorous with athletes attending orientation days, signing athlete agreements & getting clear communication is what is expected of an athlete on programme. There is also regular meetings and reviews based on behavior, lifestyle as well as performance so from my POV the issues whilst extremely serious and need to be dealt with, are not widespread. |
Very interesting, Mr King. Unfortunately for me, I believe Adam swims today just after 5pm, when I'll be in the car on my way home from work. Grrrr. |  | | |
| Adam Peaty on 14:34 - Jul 26 with 5294 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| Adam Peaty on 13:18 - Jul 26 by hype313 |
Whilst one could view that as quite harsh, elite sport isn't for the fainthearted.
The LTA could learn a lot form the BOA. |
I've said for years that Football can learn a lot from Olympic sports and the way they operate. There are the obvious faults within the likes of British Cycling, British Rowing, British Swimming etc. but they are developing multi medal winning athletes every Olympic cycle.
How many Football clubs can claim any successful athlete transitions when they are splashing (in some cases) in 1 year, 10 times what these sports have as their 4 year budget.
Also, from experience working with Sport Science staff in some football clubs is like going back 10/15 years in how they operate. The efficiency and ways of working in Olympic sports has had to move forward to stay ahead of the curve (and be within budget) when football clubs continue the status quo with former players getting jobs as coaches, fitness coaches etc. and never really pushed to be innovative. | | | |
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