| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:05 - Oct 15 with 6763 views | Benters |
Why would you? |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:42 - Oct 15 with 6714 views | WeWereZombies |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:05 - Oct 15 by Benters |
Why would you? |
Because the party likely to win was formed by ex-Nazis - are 'The Sun on Sunday' not covering this story? |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:47 - Oct 15 with 6695 views | imsureazzure |
Strange isn't it? Have they not learnt from history? Why do you believe this is happening? |  | | |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:55 - Oct 15 with 6674 views | TractorWood |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:47 - Oct 15 by imsureazzure |
Strange isn't it? Have they not learnt from history? Why do you believe this is happening? |
It's always been a fairly conservative country. Especially rurally. Spent lots of time there and not surprised at all but agree it's concerning. They simply aren't big enough to do Oxit and even their most right wing politicians have ruled it out as economically unworkable. |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:58 - Oct 15 with 6659 views | Benters |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:42 - Oct 15 by WeWereZombies |
Because the party likely to win was formed by ex-Nazis - are 'The Sun on Sunday' not covering this story? |
I havent got my paper yet. | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 08:57 - Oct 15 with 6557 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:47 - Oct 15 by imsureazzure |
Strange isn't it? Have they not learnt from history? Why do you believe this is happening? |
Because 'the rich' while swimming in their austerity/QE generated taxpayer wealth are p1ssing themselves laughing while their media (successfully it would seem) encourage us to blame immigrants who are suffering because of the same people's agendas ! |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 09:19 - Oct 15 with 6493 views | factual_blue |
The FLA will be pleased.
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 09:55 - Oct 15 with 6451 views | Pendejo |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 08:57 - Oct 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Because 'the rich' while swimming in their austerity/QE generated taxpayer wealth are p1ssing themselves laughing while their media (successfully it would seem) encourage us to blame immigrants who are suffering because of the same people's agendas ! |
Classic divide & conquer.
Create divisions between the working classes [colour, race, religion etc.]. They will then be too busy hating people in a similar, or worse, position they won't notice or ignore the rich helping themselves to more than their slice of the economic cake.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 09:57 - Oct 15 with 6434 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 09:55 - Oct 15 by Pendejo |
Classic divide & conquer.
Create divisions between the working classes [colour, race, religion etc.]. They will then be too busy hating people in a similar, or worse, position they won't notice or ignore the rich helping themselves to more than their slice of the economic cake.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Always kick up the 'ladder' not down it ! | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:01 - Oct 15 with 6416 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:47 - Oct 15 by imsureazzure |
Strange isn't it? Have they not learnt from history? Why do you believe this is happening? |
Oh sweet irony.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School
"The Austrian School is a school of economic thought that is based on methodological individualism — the concept that social phenomena result from the motivations and actions of individuals." | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:13 - Oct 15 with 6382 views | Guthrum |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:55 - Oct 15 by TractorWood |
It's always been a fairly conservative country. Especially rurally. Spent lots of time there and not surprised at all but agree it's concerning. They simply aren't big enough to do Oxit and even their most right wing politicians have ruled it out as economically unworkable. |
Indeed. People forget what the Dolfuss and Schuschnigg governments were like before Hitler's forced Anschluss of 1938. Hardline authoritarian fascist to the point of arresting moderate opponents and using artillery on working-class housing estates as they sought to maintain power.
Dolfuss was only assassinated by the Nazis because he stood in the way of their own power grab, nothing to do with his policies.
Moreover, this will not be the first time that the OVP has held power in conjunction with the FPO. |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:25 - Oct 15 with 6353 views | Guthrum |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:42 - Oct 15 by WeWereZombies |
Because the party likely to win was formed by ex-Nazis - are 'The Sun on Sunday' not covering this story? |
Not quite true. The party liable to prop up a centre-right/right coalition was the one founded by a former Nazi official (FPO), not the one thought likely to have the largest share (OVP).
In any case, the FPO's (now quite ancient) Nazi heritage can be overstated. For much of its existence it was merely anti-socialist and anti-clerical. The turn towards harder, populist xenophobia has come with more recent, younger leaders from Jorg Haider onwards. | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:53 - Oct 15 with 6268 views | Darth_Koont |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 09:55 - Oct 15 by Pendejo |
Classic divide & conquer.
Create divisions between the working classes [colour, race, religion etc.]. They will then be too busy hating people in a similar, or worse, position they won't notice or ignore the rich helping themselves to more than their slice of the economic cake.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Well said.
Although I don't think it's all that much of a coordinated conspiracy but clearly there are people who are comfortable with anything that keeps the real status quo intact. |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:59 - Oct 15 with 6262 views | WeWereZombies |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:25 - Oct 15 by Guthrum |
Not quite true. The party liable to prop up a centre-right/right coalition was the one founded by a former Nazi official (FPO), not the one thought likely to have the largest share (OVP).
In any case, the FPO's (now quite ancient) Nazi heritage can be overstated. For much of its existence it was merely anti-socialist and anti-clerical. The turn towards harder, populist xenophobia has come with more recent, younger leaders from Jorg Haider onwards. |
OK, I had only taken my research as far as reading the first couple of paragraphs from the Guardian article and quoting from that. A more pertinent point should be that judging offspring by the actions of their parents can limit their opportunities and any benefits that can accrue to us and society as a whole. There again, those formative years can influence far beyond our comprehension despite all efforts we may perceive as necessary to correct our own shortcomings.
If you are still reading Benters, what I am saying is that there may not be grounds to go in and arrest them but they need to be watched, they've got form...
Edit: And I should have said the coalition likely to hold power rather than the party likely to win. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:08]
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:08 - Oct 15 with 6231 views | Guthrum |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:59 - Oct 15 by WeWereZombies |
OK, I had only taken my research as far as reading the first couple of paragraphs from the Guardian article and quoting from that. A more pertinent point should be that judging offspring by the actions of their parents can limit their opportunities and any benefits that can accrue to us and society as a whole. There again, those formative years can influence far beyond our comprehension despite all efforts we may perceive as necessary to correct our own shortcomings.
If you are still reading Benters, what I am saying is that there may not be grounds to go in and arrest them but they need to be watched, they've got form...
Edit: And I should have said the coalition likely to hold power rather than the party likely to win. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:08]
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As regards your first para, Haider was indeed the son of actively Nazi parents (having remained members of the party even when it was banned in Austria during the mid '30s), tho by all accounts a gifted individual. | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:13 - Oct 15 with 6216 views | Pendejo |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:53 - Oct 15 by Darth_Koont |
Well said.
Although I don't think it's all that much of a coordinated conspiracy but clearly there are people who are comfortable with anything that keeps the real status quo intact. |
Conspiracies are far too complex to maintain on anything other than a small contained level - I prefer to think insular incompetence and down right selfishness rather than conspiracy most of the time.
Anger against immigrants tends to be media led and subject to an agenda; Chinese whispers creating urban myths reported as truth with no checks and balance [fake news?]
Who influences the media? Or do the media influence to alter opinions in favour of those the media themselves favour? [i.e. papers backing a particular party. | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:32 - Oct 15 with 6180 views | imsureazzure |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 10:59 - Oct 15 by WeWereZombies |
OK, I had only taken my research as far as reading the first couple of paragraphs from the Guardian article and quoting from that. A more pertinent point should be that judging offspring by the actions of their parents can limit their opportunities and any benefits that can accrue to us and society as a whole. There again, those formative years can influence far beyond our comprehension despite all efforts we may perceive as necessary to correct our own shortcomings.
If you are still reading Benters, what I am saying is that there may not be grounds to go in and arrest them but they need to be watched, they've got form...
Edit: And I should have said the coalition likely to hold power rather than the party likely to win. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:08]
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Two quotes that when they are seen together are hilarious.
"The Sun on Sunday' not covering this story?"
"OK, I had only taken my research as far as reading the first couple of paragraphs from the Guardian" | | | |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:41 - Oct 15 with 6144 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 07:47 - Oct 15 by imsureazzure |
Strange isn't it? Have they not learnt from history? Why do you believe this is happening? |
I touched in this in the FLA thread. The real Nazis won the day we started throwing around the term Nazi at anyone whose views we disagreed with. When we started calling people like Nigel Farage a Nazi was the day the real Nazis were able sneak under the radar.
We are immune to the term Nazi. When your lifelong friend who decided to vote UKIP or for Brexit was branded a Nazi on social media was a gift to the real Nazis.
Every time a football fan who had concerns over immigration, whether real or perceived, was told to “dry his Nazi tears” was the day the real Nazis won. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:43]
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:57 - Oct 15 with 6109 views | imsureazzure |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:41 - Oct 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I touched in this in the FLA thread. The real Nazis won the day we started throwing around the term Nazi at anyone whose views we disagreed with. When we started calling people like Nigel Farage a Nazi was the day the real Nazis were able sneak under the radar.
We are immune to the term Nazi. When your lifelong friend who decided to vote UKIP or for Brexit was branded a Nazi on social media was a gift to the real Nazis.
Every time a football fan who had concerns over immigration, whether real or perceived, was told to “dry his Nazi tears” was the day the real Nazis won. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:43]
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Agreed, along with the insult "bigot" Those with the most bigoted views bandy it about as if the left own the word. | | | |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 12:03 - Oct 15 with 6092 views | vapour_trail |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:41 - Oct 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I touched in this in the FLA thread. The real Nazis won the day we started throwing around the term Nazi at anyone whose views we disagreed with. When we started calling people like Nigel Farage a Nazi was the day the real Nazis were able sneak under the radar.
We are immune to the term Nazi. When your lifelong friend who decided to vote UKIP or for Brexit was branded a Nazi on social media was a gift to the real Nazis.
Every time a football fan who had concerns over immigration, whether real or perceived, was told to “dry his Nazi tears” was the day the real Nazis won. [Post edited 15 Oct 2017 11:43]
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That's bo11ocks, frankly. |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 13:00 - Oct 15 with 6013 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 12:03 - Oct 15 by vapour_trail |
That's bo11ocks, frankly. |
Thank you for your contribution. Which is always welcome.
Of course, as I often have to remind you, purely saying something is b0llocks doesn’t necessarily make it so. Perhaps some reasoning behind your critique, some meat on the bones so to speak, would help me take on board your comments in a more constructive way.
Thanks in advance. | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:15 - Oct 15 with 5896 views | WeWereZombies |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 11:32 - Oct 15 by imsureazzure |
Two quotes that when they are seen together are hilarious.
"The Sun on Sunday' not covering this story?"
"OK, I had only taken my research as far as reading the first couple of paragraphs from the Guardian" |
Ouch, have to take that one on the chin - although hilarious is pushing it a bit even for someone as desperate for recognition as me. And are you implying an exchange rate here? Complete issue of 'The Sun on Sunday' = Two paragraphs in the The Guardian = 1 correction from Guthrum... | |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:25 - Oct 15 with 5876 views | shoopdelang |
Concerning why? Because it's a right wing party?
You are one of the idiots who thinks right wing means you are a nazi then clearly which it does not. You should perhaps do an open university politics degree in your spare time to become more aware.
It's a spectrum. Ie right wing doesn't mean extreme right wing. Fool |  | | |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:30 - Oct 15 with 5857 views | SpruceMoose |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:25 - Oct 15 by shoopdelang |
Concerning why? Because it's a right wing party?
You are one of the idiots who thinks right wing means you are a nazi then clearly which it does not. You should perhaps do an open university politics degree in your spare time to become more aware.
It's a spectrum. Ie right wing doesn't mean extreme right wing. Fool |
Did you read the article? Did you read the bit about the likely coalition?
"Founded by ex-Nazis after the second world war, the FPOe almost won the presidency last year and topped opinion polls before Kurz’s radical OeVP makeover in spring." |  |
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| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:34 - Oct 15 with 5842 views | WeWereZombies |
| Concerning happenings in Austria on 17:30 - Oct 15 by SpruceMoose |
Did you read the article? Did you read the bit about the likely coalition?
"Founded by ex-Nazis after the second world war, the FPOe almost won the presidency last year and topped opinion polls before Kurz’s radical OeVP makeover in spring." |
I was going to ask shoopdewoopdeshoopshoopdelangalang if he had read the whole thread but now I have to ask you if you did first - apparently the FPO founders only included one ex-Nazi. And apparently in that correction I used the word Nazi once too often. And also in the correction of the correction. | |
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