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Hate crime on the rise 14:45 - Oct 16 with 25484 viewsHerbivore

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We live in dark times, friends.

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Hate crime on the rise on 18:46 - Oct 16 with 3108 viewsSuperblue95

Hate crime on the rise on 18:42 - Oct 16 by Currie10

The BBC have a terribly biased media agenda it's pathetic. I cannot listen to any news they have as it's always with a massive slant.

Yeah sure another link that's not completely 100% left wing may be relevant. BBC I can essentially ignore.

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"The BBC have a terribly biased media agenda"

You will have a hard time getting many to agree with that

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Hate crime on the rise on 18:48 - Oct 16 with 3103 viewsSuperblue95

Hate crime on the rise on 18:44 - Oct 16 by Currie10

All people do nowadays is complain and everything offends them.

' i'm offended you've opened the door at that angle '

What a wet pathetic nation of moaning self entitled idiots the UK has become.


Bit extreme, but I agree with your overall point there

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Hate crime on the rise on 18:57 - Oct 16 with 3094 viewsHerbivore

Hate crime on the rise on 18:42 - Oct 16 by Currie10

The BBC have a terribly biased media agenda it's pathetic. I cannot listen to any news they have as it's always with a massive slant.

Yeah sure another link that's not completely 100% left wing may be relevant. BBC I can essentially ignore.

[Post edited 16 Oct 2018 18:43]


(a) That's laughable nonsense, you're turning into a mini Benters.

(b) Here you go https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/10/16/uk/hate-crime-religious-england-wales-intl/

Looks like the BBC weren't just fabricating statistics.

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Hate crime on the rise on 18:58 - Oct 16 with 3091 viewsHerbivore

Hate crime on the rise on 18:44 - Oct 16 by Currie10

All people do nowadays is complain and everything offends them.

' i'm offended you've opened the door at that angle '

What a wet pathetic nation of moaning self entitled idiots the UK has become.


Wow. Just wow.

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Hate crime on the rise on 19:03 - Oct 16 with 3086 viewsjaykay

Hate crime on the rise on 18:44 - Oct 16 by Currie10

All people do nowadays is complain and everything offends them.

' i'm offended you've opened the door at that angle '

What a wet pathetic nation of moaning self entitled idiots the UK has become.


your last sentence is that for the hurst moaners

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Hate crime on the rise on 19:05 - Oct 16 with 3080 viewsfactual_blue

Hate crime on the rise on 18:46 - Oct 16 by Superblue95

"The BBC have a terribly biased media agenda"

You will have a hard time getting many to agree with that


Particularly as it's patently untrue.

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Hate crime on the rise on 19:11 - Oct 16 with 3072 viewsfactual_blue

Hate crime on the rise on 19:03 - Oct 16 by jaykay

your last sentence is that for the hurst moaners


Also that last sentence has a complete lack of punctuation, making it even more unpalatable to right-thinking Englishmen.

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Hate crime on the rise on 20:23 - Oct 16 with 3056 viewsMattinLondon

Hate crime on the rise on 16:24 - Oct 16 by Benters2

Sad times bruv.

Have a pint,man up,and get on with life.


As someone who has been racially insulted numerous time in my almost forty years on this planet I can reassure you that it isn’t simply a case of having to man-up. Being racially abused is degrading, humiliating and utterly depressing. Thankfully it has never really happened in a regular basis but when it has happened it’s awful. Such abuse - which I’m guessing can be regarded as a hate-crime in itself - isn’t just words which can be forgotten. The whole ‘names will never hurt me’ is complete rubbish.

Maybe as an Anglo-Saxon Male you find it hard to show empathy towards minorities but others on here do. Maybe you just don’t care.

Not that long ago you received a lot of sympathy and offers of support from various different posters on here include many who don’t necessarily share your outlook on life. Imagine if you simply received abuse instead. Imagine if instead of support you had people mocking you for reasons you couldn’t help and imagine how degraded you’d feel. That is how it will feel to be a victim of an hate crime. Now imagine words turned into violence and you were left scared to venture out of your own home - instead finding confort in your own community based on ethnicity. It’s not nice.

That’s why hate crime isn’t something to snigger about or simply say ‘balls’ to. Maybe you think I’m overrating, and that’s your progrative but sometimes you simply have to show empathy.
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Hate crime on the rise on 20:49 - Oct 16 with 3033 viewsCurrie10

Hate crime on the rise on 18:46 - Oct 16 by Superblue95

"The BBC have a terribly biased media agenda"

You will have a hard time getting many to agree with that


Agreed, I will have a difficult time with that viewpoint due to many people lapping up the absolute rubbish the BBC talk.

Same goes for Sky news.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

No idea as to the link / reputable etc but taken me about five seconds to find an article that also shows the BBC to be to the left.

Supposed to be central thanks. No bias.

Regarding hate crimes - terrible.

People need to be nice to one another.

It's fine for the left to bang on about the Daily Mail ' right wing bla bla bla ' and sure - may be an element of truth to that.

Slate the BBC and you're talking rubbish. God people need to open their eyes.
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Hate crime on the rise on 20:55 - Oct 16 with 3013 viewsBlueBadger

Hate crime on the rise on 20:49 - Oct 16 by Currie10

Agreed, I will have a difficult time with that viewpoint due to many people lapping up the absolute rubbish the BBC talk.

Same goes for Sky news.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

No idea as to the link / reputable etc but taken me about five seconds to find an article that also shows the BBC to be to the left.

Supposed to be central thanks. No bias.

Regarding hate crimes - terrible.

People need to be nice to one another.

It's fine for the left to bang on about the Daily Mail ' right wing bla bla bla ' and sure - may be an element of truth to that.

Slate the BBC and you're talking rubbish. God people need to open their eyes.
[Post edited 16 Oct 2018 20:57]


I think that the problem you're suffering from is that reality appears to have, for you an insufferably left-wing bias.

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Hate crime on the rise on 20:57 - Oct 16 with 3017 viewsBlueBadger

Blimey Herbers, didn't think you were planning on starting a 'who is TWTD's most ignorant racist'' competition this evening.

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Hate crime on the rise on 20:58 - Oct 16 with 3016 viewsCurrie10

Hate crime on the rise on 20:55 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger

I think that the problem you're suffering from is that reality appears to have, for you an insufferably left-wing bias.


Well I just think news needs to be reported as centrally as possible by the news.

Needs to be fair to people on both sides of the fence?!

I know it's hard to be bang on - however the BBC is never remotely balanced.

They have an agenda and will continue to. Been like it far too long.
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Hate crime on the rise on 21:02 - Oct 16 with 3011 viewsBlueBadger

Hate crime on the rise on 20:58 - Oct 16 by Currie10

Well I just think news needs to be reported as centrally as possible by the news.

Needs to be fair to people on both sides of the fence?!

I know it's hard to be bang on - however the BBC is never remotely balanced.

They have an agenda and will continue to. Been like it far too long.


Let's put it like this, if right wing thickos like you and B*nters are convinced the Beeb is biased to the 'other' side and left wing thickos like Fred and Definitely Not Facey think the beeb is biased to the 'other side' I'd suggest that if they're upsetting both sets then they've probably got the balance about right.

And when you say 'people on both sides of the fence' in the context of the OP what do you mean? That we should actively seek to grant the likes of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon or Anjem Choudary respectability by offering them airtime?

And what is this mystical 'agenda' and what purpose does it serve?
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Hate crime on the rise on 21:11 - Oct 16 with 2994 viewsBlueBadger

Hate crime on the rise on 18:57 - Oct 16 by Herbivore

(a) That's laughable nonsense, you're turning into a mini Benters.

(b) Here you go https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/10/16/uk/hate-crime-religious-england-wales-intl/

Looks like the BBC weren't just fabricating statistics.


Bloody reality, clearly has a left wing bias and an agenda.

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Hate crime on the rise on 21:18 - Oct 16 with 2993 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Hate crime on the rise on 21:02 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger

Let's put it like this, if right wing thickos like you and B*nters are convinced the Beeb is biased to the 'other' side and left wing thickos like Fred and Definitely Not Facey think the beeb is biased to the 'other side' I'd suggest that if they're upsetting both sets then they've probably got the balance about right.

And when you say 'people on both sides of the fence' in the context of the OP what do you mean? That we should actively seek to grant the likes of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon or Anjem Choudary respectability by offering them airtime?

And what is this mystical 'agenda' and what purpose does it serve?
[Post edited 17 Oct 2018 9:31]


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Hate crime on the rise on 21:23 - Oct 16 with 2981 viewsHerbivore

Hate crime on the rise on 20:23 - Oct 16 by MattinLondon

As someone who has been racially insulted numerous time in my almost forty years on this planet I can reassure you that it isn’t simply a case of having to man-up. Being racially abused is degrading, humiliating and utterly depressing. Thankfully it has never really happened in a regular basis but when it has happened it’s awful. Such abuse - which I’m guessing can be regarded as a hate-crime in itself - isn’t just words which can be forgotten. The whole ‘names will never hurt me’ is complete rubbish.

Maybe as an Anglo-Saxon Male you find it hard to show empathy towards minorities but others on here do. Maybe you just don’t care.

Not that long ago you received a lot of sympathy and offers of support from various different posters on here include many who don’t necessarily share your outlook on life. Imagine if you simply received abuse instead. Imagine if instead of support you had people mocking you for reasons you couldn’t help and imagine how degraded you’d feel. That is how it will feel to be a victim of an hate crime. Now imagine words turned into violence and you were left scared to venture out of your own home - instead finding confort in your own community based on ethnicity. It’s not nice.

That’s why hate crime isn’t something to snigger about or simply say ‘balls’ to. Maybe you think I’m overrating, and that’s your progrative but sometimes you simply have to show empathy.


Thanks for sharing your experiences mate, it saddens me you've had to go through that. I really hope a few people read that and let it sink in.

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Hate crime on the rise on 22:04 - Oct 16 with 2952 viewsClapham_Junction

Hate crime on the rise on 20:49 - Oct 16 by Currie10

Agreed, I will have a difficult time with that viewpoint due to many people lapping up the absolute rubbish the BBC talk.

Same goes for Sky news.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

No idea as to the link / reputable etc but taken me about five seconds to find an article that also shows the BBC to be to the left.

Supposed to be central thanks. No bias.

Regarding hate crimes - terrible.

People need to be nice to one another.

It's fine for the left to bang on about the Daily Mail ' right wing bla bla bla ' and sure - may be an element of truth to that.

Slate the BBC and you're talking rubbish. God people need to open their eyes.
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"the absolute rubbish the BBC talk"

The source presented:

"Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH; The BBC is an outstanding journalistic source."


I think it's important to differentiate between media sources that are reliable and those that are not. The Guardian and the Times are both sources that are generally reliable despite their known political leanings. Then you have the likes of the Mail and Express, which are utter sh!trags. People who make out that the Guardian is equivalent to the Mail are idiots.

The BBC is the only mainstream media source in the UK to get a "Very high" rating on their factual reporting, and they are also classed as the least biased (sitting between left-centre and least biased).

Guardian - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-centre
Independent - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-centre
Times - Factual News: HIGH; right-centre
Sky News - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-center (surprised by this)
Telegraph - Factual Reporting: HIGH; right-center (very surprised by both ratings)

Express - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing
Mail - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing
Mirror - Factual Reporting: MIXED; left-wing
Sun - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing
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Hate crime on the rise on 22:11 - Oct 16 with 2939 viewsjjblue84

Hate crime on the rise on 22:04 - Oct 16 by Clapham_Junction

"the absolute rubbish the BBC talk"

The source presented:

"Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH; The BBC is an outstanding journalistic source."


I think it's important to differentiate between media sources that are reliable and those that are not. The Guardian and the Times are both sources that are generally reliable despite their known political leanings. Then you have the likes of the Mail and Express, which are utter sh!trags. People who make out that the Guardian is equivalent to the Mail are idiots.

The BBC is the only mainstream media source in the UK to get a "Very high" rating on their factual reporting, and they are also classed as the least biased (sitting between left-centre and least biased).

Guardian - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-centre
Independent - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-centre
Times - Factual News: HIGH; right-centre
Sky News - Factual Reporting: HIGH; left-center (surprised by this)
Telegraph - Factual Reporting: HIGH; right-center (very surprised by both ratings)

Express - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing
Mail - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing
Mirror - Factual Reporting: MIXED; left-wing
Sun - Factual Reporting: MIXED; right-wing


It's good to declare your political opinion and unashamedly argue that case. What is slippery is your opinions presented as fact...as in 'mediabiasfactcheck'...
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Hate crime on the rise on 23:53 - Oct 16 with 2884 viewsfactual_blue

Hate crime on the rise on 20:57 - Oct 16 by BlueBadger

Blimey Herbers, didn't think you were planning on starting a 'who is TWTD's most ignorant racist'' competition this evening.


It would be unfair to let any of the contenders lose.

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Hate crime on the rise on 23:59 - Oct 16 with 2886 viewsBlueBadger

Hate crime on the rise on 23:53 - Oct 16 by factual_blue

It would be unfair to let any of the contenders lose.


In a very real way, all the contenders are losers.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Hate crime on the rise on 00:01 - Oct 17 with 2880 viewsBlueBadger

Hate crime on the rise on 22:11 - Oct 16 by jjblue84

It's good to declare your political opinion and unashamedly argue that case. What is slippery is your opinions presented as fact...as in 'mediabiasfactcheck'...


Opinions being valued as much as facts is how we've ended up with Brexit, Trump and dickheads in this thread arguing that 'hate crime isn't real'.

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Hate crime on the rise on 07:46 - Oct 17 with 2802 viewsm14_blue

Hate crime on the rise on 18:44 - Oct 16 by Currie10

All people do nowadays is complain and everything offends them.

' i'm offended you've opened the door at that angle '

What a wet pathetic nation of moaning self entitled idiots the UK has become.


Yep, I've never heard you moan or complain.

Not once, never.
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Hate crime on the rise on 07:51 - Oct 17 with 2787 viewsjeera

Hate crime on the rise on 20:58 - Oct 16 by Currie10

Well I just think news needs to be reported as centrally as possible by the news.

Needs to be fair to people on both sides of the fence?!

I know it's hard to be bang on - however the BBC is never remotely balanced.

They have an agenda and will continue to. Been like it far too long.


The Beeb is a British institution.

Why do you hate your country so much?

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Hate crime on the rise on 07:54 - Oct 17 with 2784 viewsjeera

Hate crime on the rise on 18:44 - Oct 16 by Currie10

All people do nowadays is complain and everything offends them.

' i'm offended you've opened the door at that angle '

What a wet pathetic nation of moaning self entitled idiots the UK has become.


I've never known people to complain about doors being opened at particular angles, (unless it was letting in a draft I suppose).

I have known quite a few to be openly abused for their skin colour or religion.

You cannot possibly think that behaviour is acceptable.

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Hate crime on the rise on 07:58 - Oct 17 with 3094 viewsHerbivore

Hate crime on the rise on 20:58 - Oct 16 by Currie10

Well I just think news needs to be reported as centrally as possible by the news.

Needs to be fair to people on both sides of the fence?!

I know it's hard to be bang on - however the BBC is never remotely balanced.

They have an agenda and will continue to. Been like it far too long.


Yeah, that just isn't true though. Politically you align yourself with the likes of Benters, who is pretty far right of centre. So to you guys the Beeb seems left because the centre ground is really quite far to the left of your own politics. The reality is that the Beeb is pretty much in the centre, on some issues they are slightly to the right, on others they are slightly to the left. On the whole, though, politically, socially and economically they don't stray far from the centre ground.

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