| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. 10:24 - Dec 17 with 5855 views | Pinewoodblue |
If he gets his way can we have a second Chilcott enquiry as we didn't like the outcome of the first one. |  |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 13:37 - Dec 17 with 858 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 12:55 - Dec 17 by J2BLUE |
I'll listen to him when he swears on a stack of bibles that he will never accept any position of power within the EU. Until then I believe he is simply trying to look out for his own ambition. |
Charlie Mullins is on Sky News making the case for remain. That should convert a few to leave. |  |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 13:40 - Dec 17 with 847 views | monytowbray |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 13:35 - Dec 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Would be better if there weren't so many party officials who held such racists views but ho hum.
Rather than bore the board with this any more I can send you five of these a day if you want? Labour against antisemitism have submitted 1200 cases to the party with another 4000 ready to go. [Post edited 17 Dec 2018 13:36]
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Please do provide the list of all these, I'd be interested to know what they actually say.
You wanted it dealt with, it's getting dealt with. Please stop moving the goal posts so you can carry on attacking a politician you once laughed at who now poses an actual threat to the heartless sh1t show of a party you love so much. |  |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 14:13 - Dec 17 with 814 views | Guthrum |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 11:14 - Dec 17 by Steve_M |
I've had a good read about what it entails and it's a crap deal. It's the result of May only caring about ending Freedom of Movement (which she is selling to the British public with glee) so it focuses on goods and ignores services. Not only are services more important to the UK economy now but they are often indivisible from goods.
This deal is also only a Withdrawal Agreement, there needs to be much more negotiation over future trade deals and that is all supposed to happen in two years. It's obvious from the last two that there is no likelihood of that happening and once we are out of the EU we have even less leverage during that period.
I can't see it as representing any sort of consensus outcome to a divided country so think the least economically damaging route out is required. If the country is markedly poorer then most people won't sanguinely think "Oh well, it's what we voted for".
A second referendum will be messy but that's were we are now. May's failure to make clear that choices incur costs as led to this impasse, but in that she just followed the Leave campaign. |
Indeed, if the "red lines" did not exist, we could get a much more advantageous deal. But, (unfortunately IMO) they are part of the political landscape and extremely precious to most Brexiteers. Within those very awkward constraints, I'm not sure anything better can be done.
The two-year transition limit is exactly why we need a backstop arrangement, to make as much time available as is needed to complete the negotiations. A five-year timescale would be far more appropriate. But everyone's in a mad rush to get away from the EU asap. |  |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 14:19 - Dec 17 with 802 views | Guthrum |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 10:51 - Dec 17 by SomethingBlue |
As far as a waste of time is concerned - if it takes another year to make sure we're not fcuked for the next 50 I'm ok with that. |
The problem is that another referendum does not postpone the March 29th deadline. Only Parliament can try to do that (if, as their legal people suggest, the EU is prepared to accept a revocation of Article 50).
So six weeks wasted on organising and campaigning this vote leaves only about the same period before we run out of time. | |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 14:55 - Dec 17 with 761 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 11:14 - Dec 17 by Steve_M |
I've had a good read about what it entails and it's a crap deal. It's the result of May only caring about ending Freedom of Movement (which she is selling to the British public with glee) so it focuses on goods and ignores services. Not only are services more important to the UK economy now but they are often indivisible from goods.
This deal is also only a Withdrawal Agreement, there needs to be much more negotiation over future trade deals and that is all supposed to happen in two years. It's obvious from the last two that there is no likelihood of that happening and once we are out of the EU we have even less leverage during that period.
I can't see it as representing any sort of consensus outcome to a divided country so think the least economically damaging route out is required. If the country is markedly poorer then most people won't sanguinely think "Oh well, it's what we voted for".
A second referendum will be messy but that's were we are now. May's failure to make clear that choices incur costs as led to this impasse, but in that she just followed the Leave campaign. |
I think I am the opposite of most people, I would like to keep freedom of movement and goods but I'd happily ditch the EU Parliament. |  |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 15:08 - Dec 17 with 741 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 14:55 - Dec 17 by Lord_Lucan |
I think I am the opposite of most people, I would like to keep freedom of movement and goods but I'd happily ditch the EU Parliament. |
If there was an EU wide referendum on ditching the EU parliament you would be in the majority | |
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| Tony Blair wants a second referendum. on 15:12 - Dec 17 with 738 views | BloomBlue |
Why didn't he have a referendum to ask the public if we should join the Iraq military operation? |  | | |
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