| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? 09:20 - Feb 27 with 15266 views | HARRY10 |
Should the government issue guidelines, even a timetable of the level of panic required ?
The Daily Mail has jumped the gun already with warnings that not only could concerns about the virus cause cancer, but far worse could lead to a fall in house prices.
It may have been ok for previous generations to have a few 'Keep calm and carry on posters', or handwritten signs next to bombed shops saying 'business as usual' but this is the 21st century.
Is it safe to eat pot noodles, or rice ?
Should the channel tunnel be closed to stop infectious germs blowing through
Leyton Orient ? Should the ground now be closed ?
This was all predicted by Nostradamus who wrote'
a pestilence shall appear
terror shall strike the land of Albion
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:49 - Feb 28 with 1622 views | StokieBlue |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:37 - Feb 28 by jeera |
Chatting to the lass in the local shop last night and she was saying the general feel at her college is that it's just "a bad cold".
Those words.
She seemed completely unaware of the speed at which it seems to be spreading and how contagious it is.
I know she's only 18 but you'd think one of her crowd might pipe up and suggest it's a bit more than the sniffles. [Post edited 28 Feb 2020 11:54]
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That's a bit worrying, there is plenty of information around which is well explained. Some terms like r0 and mortality rate might be a bit odd but the concepts of them are fairly easy as is what it can do to a person.
This whole thread is based on the premise that everything is a total overreaction though so she's far from the only one.
That is why there is so much focus in the news at the moment on containment - any vaccine is going to be a while.
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:54 - Feb 28 with 1612 views | Ryorry |
Biggest problem is the potential for exponential spread of Corov? As it's a long incubation period, people don't know they have it because they have no symptoms, so they go out & about to work, shops, social events etc & the ripple spreads out, resulting in huge volumes affected. Reliable scientific source said 0.2% mortality rate for ordinary flu, 2% mortality rate Coro19 - obviously worrying when not every country is able or willing to clamp down like China or UK. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 12:02 - Feb 28 with 1587 views | jeera |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:49 - Feb 28 by StokieBlue |
That's a bit worrying, there is plenty of information around which is well explained. Some terms like r0 and mortality rate might be a bit odd but the concepts of them are fairly easy as is what it can do to a person.
This whole thread is based on the premise that everything is a total overreaction though so she's far from the only one.
That is why there is so much focus in the news at the moment on containment - any vaccine is going to be a while.
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I've noticed a couple of cases now where people have been given the all-clear following a bout of the illness and it's crept back again.
I don't know if they've 're-caught' it or whether it's laid dormant for a while in the body and reactivated.
That's a bit troubling if the symptoms can disappear altogether but the virus is still kicking about. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 13:28 - Feb 28 with 1541 views | StokieBlue |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:54 - Feb 28 by Ryorry |
Biggest problem is the potential for exponential spread of Corov? As it's a long incubation period, people don't know they have it because they have no symptoms, so they go out & about to work, shops, social events etc & the ripple spreads out, resulting in huge volumes affected. Reliable scientific source said 0.2% mortality rate for ordinary flu, 2% mortality rate Coro19 - obviously worrying when not every country is able or willing to clamp down like China or UK. |
Yes, the issue is that SARS was only contagious when the symptoms were visible (as are many other viruses) but Covid19 is contagious even during the period that people don't know they have it. There is also some debate about whether that period is in fact longer than 14 days which would be a big problem.
The mortality rate is higher than seasonal flu but currently still unknown as loads of cases must be going unregistered. For instance the numbers in Iran imply a 10-15% mortality rate which seems unlikely.
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 13:29 - Feb 28 with 1537 views | StokieBlue |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 12:02 - Feb 28 by jeera |
I've noticed a couple of cases now where people have been given the all-clear following a bout of the illness and it's crept back again.
I don't know if they've 're-caught' it or whether it's laid dormant for a while in the body and reactivated.
That's a bit troubling if the symptoms can disappear altogether but the virus is still kicking about. |
Those were in Japan and China, in one place in China 14% of people who had it, then tested negative, got it again.
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 14:07 - Feb 28 with 1500 views | baxterbasics |
I say we let it run its course without all this shutting down and quarantining of whole regions. It's natures way of taking out the trash.
Practice good hygiene and don't go to work or school when you've got a sniffle. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 14:21 - Feb 28 with 1491 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 11:54 - Feb 28 by Ryorry |
Biggest problem is the potential for exponential spread of Corov? As it's a long incubation period, people don't know they have it because they have no symptoms, so they go out & about to work, shops, social events etc & the ripple spreads out, resulting in huge volumes affected. Reliable scientific source said 0.2% mortality rate for ordinary flu, 2% mortality rate Coro19 - obviously worrying when not every country is able or willing to clamp down like China or UK. |
There's no way to stop it at the moment.
Case confirmed in Swansea this morning. Once it's in the schools, as it now appears to be, it'll spread everywhere.
Oh well. On the plus side may get some time off if they start shutting places down. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 15:16 - Feb 28 with 1461 views | Ryorry |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 14:21 - Feb 28 by Swansea_Blue |
There's no way to stop it at the moment.
Case confirmed in Swansea this morning. Once it's in the schools, as it now appears to be, it'll spread everywhere.
Oh well. On the plus side may get some time off if they start shutting places down. |
Schools - oh dear, yes, genie out of the bottle there it would seem. | |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 15:19 - Feb 28 with 1450 views | Ryorry |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 14:07 - Feb 28 by baxterbasics |
I say we let it run its course without all this shutting down and quarantining of whole regions. It's natures way of taking out the trash.
Practice good hygiene and don't go to work or school when you've got a sniffle. |
"Trash"? what a spectacularly insensitive choice of words, even if you meant it figuratively, as I think you probably did.
There are people on here in the "most vulnerable" group category. | |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 16:12 - Feb 28 with 1418 views | flimflam |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 08:19 - Feb 28 by HARRY10 |
It has become the same as the Brass Eye episode on paedophilia whetre the highlight and mocking of the media and so called experts was deflected into being a mocking of concerns over paredophilia.
The humour here is mocking shyterages like the Mail who endlessly squeak about people for being 'snowflakes' yet have been running story after story telling it's readers how worried they should be.
"The Daily Mail also suggests the health service is bracing for "virus mayhem".
The humour is also directed at the stupid reaction of the ignorant. We scoffed at the supposed attacks on German suasage dogs in WWI yet here we haveabuse directed at, and physical attacks on, 'oriental' looking people. Corona beer reporting a drop in sales with Chinatown in LA reporting a similar full in numbers.
Stockpile goods, wear a mask or evn hide under the bed. They are not what I am mocking. It is the absurdity in wondering if rice is safe to eat, chinese restuarants are ok or if cricketers should stop bowling a 'slow chinaman'
So I will continue with mocking of those parts of the media who bleat about the supposed bulldog spiriit of our isles, show posters of 'Keep calm and carry on' yet now fill their pages with unbridled hysteria. |
Masks are absolutely useless and actually do not help anything as people believe they protect them. They do not. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 16:27 - Feb 28 with 1410 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
"a pestilence shall appear
terror shall strike the land of Albion
and shall take away many lives"
West Brom not going up automatically then?
The state of you lot, down arrowing this. [Post edited 28 Feb 2020 16:28]
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:17 - Feb 28 with 1342 views | WeWereZombies |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 16:12 - Feb 28 by flimflam |
Masks are absolutely useless and actually do not help anything as people believe they protect them. They do not. |
They are not absolutely useless and are recommended for people caring for and in close contact with people diagnosed with the virus. But, and you are right about the false sense of security, even then they should be used in conjunction with the other health measures of frequent hand washing and healthy living. |  |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:33 - Feb 28 with 1314 views | jeera |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 16:12 - Feb 28 by flimflam |
Masks are absolutely useless and actually do not help anything as people believe they protect them. They do not. |
I don't know why people keep repeating this when it's a clear case of something is better than nothing.
They stop droplets, which should be pretty obvious. [Post edited 28 Feb 2020 19:33]
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:35 - Feb 28 with 1307 views | jeera |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 14:07 - Feb 28 by baxterbasics |
I say we let it run its course without all this shutting down and quarantining of whole regions. It's natures way of taking out the trash.
Practice good hygiene and don't go to work or school when you've got a sniffle. |
What an unpleasant individual.
Say that to the families would you?
Utterly classless. | |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:38 - Feb 28 with 1300 views | jeera |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:17 - Feb 28 by WeWereZombies |
They are not absolutely useless and are recommended for people caring for and in close contact with people diagnosed with the virus. But, and you are right about the false sense of security, even then they should be used in conjunction with the other health measures of frequent hand washing and healthy living. |
A false sense of security in the hands of idiots.
Like those studies that found [some] cyclists would take more risks if they wore a helmet because it made them feel disproportionately secure.
If someone thinks wearing a helmet will stop a bus or that donning a mask will mean they don't need to practice basic hygiene, then it isn't the apparatus at fault. | |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 20:46 - Feb 28 with 1256 views | WeWereZombies |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 19:38 - Feb 28 by jeera |
A false sense of security in the hands of idiots.
Like those studies that found [some] cyclists would take more risks if they wore a helmet because it made them feel disproportionately secure.
If someone thinks wearing a helmet will stop a bus or that donning a mask will mean they don't need to practice basic hygiene, then it isn't the apparatus at fault. |
The big difference in this case is an idiot is also more likely to become a super spreader. | |
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| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 21:10 - Feb 28 with 1236 views | jeera |
| Coronavirus - is it time to panic ? on 20:46 - Feb 28 by WeWereZombies |
The big difference in this case is an idiot is also more likely to become a super spreader. |
Yes, but not because of a mask. | |
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