| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m 14:33 - Mar 1 with 17639 views | jasondozzell |
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/the-verdict-blackpool-2-ipswich-town-1-1-6539568
Football has been better under Lambert although he's made mistakes with postponing games and the ill fated rotation. But we do play better football, just seem to lack the ruthlessness required.
Players too comfortable again? I'm beginning to think Hurst was right to try and shake things up but encountered players used to having too much influence under Mick as proper blokes etc. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 14:36]
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:40 - Mar 2 with 1238 views | londontractorboy57 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:37 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
The owner and manager for sanctioning the deals and that's not just solely on PL we have an incredibly high number of professionals in our squad. Have a look at the list of names, a percentage of those were signed by MM and PH. We might have ability, but we lack the mentality to be real contenders and lack leaders on the pitch, that's why we fold when we are put under the slightest pressure.
No offence C HealylsAPleasure, but we'll just go around in circles with this debate. I respect your view that you feel it's all on PL, but I think differently that I think it's ME, PL and the players' fault. You aren't going to change my opinion and I'm not going to change yours. Going to bow out now though, can see this going on and on and on otherwise. |
Agree to disagree I think they call it. |  | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:42 - Mar 2 with 1230 views | No9 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:17 - Mar 2 by Herbivore |
I agree that Mick was much better at picking up good players for nothing than either Hurst or Lambert. |
MM reputedly signed 79 players for ITFC - how many can you remember?
& do you reacall how many of those never made the grade? | | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:45 - Mar 2 with 1217 views | patrickswell |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:42 - Mar 2 by No9 |
MM reputedly signed 79 players for ITFC - how many can you remember?
& do you reacall how many of those never made the grade? |
Plenty didn’t make the grade but enough did to ensure that we were competitive in the Championship in a way that neither his two immediate predecessors or two immediate successors have been able to get anywhere near. |  | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:49 - Mar 2 with 1210 views | PJH |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:45 - Mar 2 by patrickswell |
Plenty didn’t make the grade but enough did to ensure that we were competitive in the Championship in a way that neither his two immediate predecessors or two immediate successors have been able to get anywhere near. |
Correct.
Nearly everything that happened here before MM and nearly everything that has happened since MM prove what a very good job he did here. |  | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 10:00 - Mar 2 with 1200 views | itfcjoe |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:37 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
The owner and manager for sanctioning the deals and that's not just solely on PL we have an incredibly high number of professionals in our squad. Have a look at the list of names, a percentage of those were signed by MM and PH. We might have ability, but we lack the mentality to be real contenders and lack leaders on the pitch, that's why we fold when we are put under the slightest pressure.
No offence C HealylsAPleasure, but we'll just go around in circles with this debate. I respect your view that you feel it's all on PL, but I think differently that I think it's ME, PL and the players' fault. You aren't going to change my opinion and I'm not going to change yours. Going to bow out now though, can see this going on and on and on otherwise. |
I think everyone agrees it is a combination of ME, PL and the players - but which one of those can you change and hope it improves things?
Evans - Is there another buyer and will it be quick?
Lambert - can you change the manager and see if a new voice with new methods can get the best out of the players
The Players - can you overhaul the whole squad this summer? If you can do you think Lambert has earned the right to have another go at this after realistically 2 seasons of under performance
That is why the focus is on Lambert |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 11:17 - Mar 2 with 1151 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 10:00 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
I think everyone agrees it is a combination of ME, PL and the players - but which one of those can you change and hope it improves things?
Evans - Is there another buyer and will it be quick?
Lambert - can you change the manager and see if a new voice with new methods can get the best out of the players
The Players - can you overhaul the whole squad this summer? If you can do you think Lambert has earned the right to have another go at this after realistically 2 seasons of under performance
That is why the focus is on Lambert |
If ME announced he was selling that would be the best news, it would feel like a dark cloud had been lifted from PR. PL's contract and the timing of it certainly hasn't helped and I feel sure that's fired people up. Without question you have to look at the current form and our efforts from last season and point fingers at PL, it's not good enough. I'm still not convinced he's the right man going forwards, I needed to see more focus on a style of play, formation and the evidence that he was building a side this season, there's been little to encourage me. You know my feelings on the players Joe and I'd just be going over old ground and boring you with points I've already made in countless posts recently. Whomever the manager is during the summer, I'd be advising him to get rid of some of the deadwood in our squad and there's a number. Appreciate that's easier said than done. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 12:57 - Mar 2 with 1110 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:42 - Mar 2 by No9 |
MM reputedly signed 79 players for ITFC - how many can you remember?
& do you reacall how many of those never made the grade? |
When you're signing players on a budget of roughly zero they aren't all going to be gems. That several of them were is a big credit to him. I know you find Mick's competence upsetting but you need to let go. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:48 - Mar 2 with 1087 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:44 - Mar 1 by Herbivore |
When you're relying on pure speculation to defend the manager, you know the game is up. |
Having said that, you're relying on pure speculation to suggest he isn't addressing the matter?
Truth be told, neither of us don't know what he is nor isn't addressing? |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:51 - Mar 2 with 1079 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 10:00 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
I think everyone agrees it is a combination of ME, PL and the players - but which one of those can you change and hope it improves things?
Evans - Is there another buyer and will it be quick?
Lambert - can you change the manager and see if a new voice with new methods can get the best out of the players
The Players - can you overhaul the whole squad this summer? If you can do you think Lambert has earned the right to have another go at this after realistically 2 seasons of under performance
That is why the focus is on Lambert |
Whilst I agree, Lambert is the easy solution, maybe not financially given his length of contract.
A new voice comes in, same set of players. Jose Mourinho once said a group of players are only recipient to new ideas for around 3 months hence you commonly get a new manager bounce. Do we hen just repeat the circle when the same group players are recipient in 3 months time, I don't really know. [Post edited 2 Mar 2020 13:52]
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:55 - Mar 2 with 1060 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:48 - Mar 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Having said that, you're relying on pure speculation to suggest he isn't addressing the matter?
Truth be told, neither of us don't know what he is nor isn't addressing? |
It's not speculation when there's no observable evidence to suggest that he is addressing it. You are speculating that he is with no evidence to support your case. I get that you're one of a handful that is still Team Lambert, so I can understand the mental gymnastics. Sadly, though, it's pretty apparent that he's largely clueless and a busted flush. If he's still here next season, half the crowd won't be. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:57 - Mar 2 with 1053 views | itfcjoe |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:51 - Mar 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Whilst I agree, Lambert is the easy solution, maybe not financially given his length of contract.
A new voice comes in, same set of players. Jose Mourinho once said a group of players are only recipient to new ideas for around 3 months hence you commonly get a new manager bounce. Do we hen just repeat the circle when the same group players are recipient in 3 months time, I don't really know. [Post edited 2 Mar 2020 13:52]
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Do you think Lambert is the man o overhaul the squad though? That is where the problem lies - he hasn't earned that right to ship players out and bring others in for me - I'd rather a fresh face and set of eyes look at them and take that opportunity.
Lambert has had 18 months here, and on the pitch will have achieved the square root of f*ck all if the season ends as we expect it to. For all the good work he has done off the pitch, that isn't going to keep you in a job.
The players may not be up to it, but I don't trust Lambert to be the one to decide if they are or not, because he has been so haphazard in style of play it's hard to know what they need to be up to. If he wants us to be a passing team then James Wilson isn't up to it, if he wants us to be a long ball team then Will Keane isn't up to it, if he wants us to be a fit and fast team then Alan Judge isn't up to it.
By not nailing down a type and style of football it's hard to tell which players are required going forward and which one's aren't - this is his biggest failure. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:04 - Mar 2 with 1038 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 13:57 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
Do you think Lambert is the man o overhaul the squad though? That is where the problem lies - he hasn't earned that right to ship players out and bring others in for me - I'd rather a fresh face and set of eyes look at them and take that opportunity.
Lambert has had 18 months here, and on the pitch will have achieved the square root of f*ck all if the season ends as we expect it to. For all the good work he has done off the pitch, that isn't going to keep you in a job.
The players may not be up to it, but I don't trust Lambert to be the one to decide if they are or not, because he has been so haphazard in style of play it's hard to know what they need to be up to. If he wants us to be a passing team then James Wilson isn't up to it, if he wants us to be a long ball team then Will Keane isn't up to it, if he wants us to be a fit and fast team then Alan Judge isn't up to it.
By not nailing down a type and style of football it's hard to tell which players are required going forward and which one's aren't - this is his biggest failure. |
Also, if Chambers is the massive issue that many seem to be implying with all this 'losing mentality' and 'too comfortable' talk, why didn't Lambert bomb him out in the summer? He had the perfect opportunity to. Skuse as well, we didn't have to take up the one year option. If there is a culture issue here and it's coming from the senior pros then that's on Lambert as he chose to keep them around. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:06 - Mar 2 with 1028 views | flimflam |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 18:24 - Mar 1 by BlueBadger |
I'm sure, that like the story about Chambers swearing at 'the fans' you have a solid link that can support this?
Oh no wait, you've made this up as well. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 18:30]
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As much as it pains me Chambers was guilty of that and I was literally 5 seats away from the bloke involved in CO OP lower.
But to be fair to Chambers he reacted to the bloke being an utter knob so the fact Chambers lost it was understandable if silly as is the family enclosure and plenty of kids about. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:07 - Mar 2 with 1024 views | itfcjoe |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:04 - Mar 2 by Herbivore |
Also, if Chambers is the massive issue that many seem to be implying with all this 'losing mentality' and 'too comfortable' talk, why didn't Lambert bomb him out in the summer? He had the perfect opportunity to. Skuse as well, we didn't have to take up the one year option. If there is a culture issue here and it's coming from the senior pros then that's on Lambert as he chose to keep them around. |
Exactly, if the plan was to move on from them then they should already be gone. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:21 - Mar 2 with 1005 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:07 - Mar 2 by itfcjoe |
Exactly, if the plan was to move on from them then they should already be gone. |
This is one of the things I struggle with when some still try to defend Lambert and pin it on the senior pros. He actively chose to keep them and has been full of praise for them. If we needed a shake up he could very easily have got rid of Chambers and Skuse (as well as Bart) last summer. The fact he's kept them around suggests they probably aren't the problem here, but even if they are a problem then they're a problem of Lambert's making. | |
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