| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m 14:33 - Mar 1 with 17638 views | jasondozzell |
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/the-verdict-blackpool-2-ipswich-town-1-1-6539568
Football has been better under Lambert although he's made mistakes with postponing games and the ill fated rotation. But we do play better football, just seem to lack the ruthlessness required.
Players too comfortable again? I'm beginning to think Hurst was right to try and shake things up but encountered players used to having too much influence under Mick as proper blokes etc. [Post edited 1 Mar 2020 14:36]
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 21:53 - Mar 1 with 5988 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 16:09 - Mar 1 by 44_not_out |
They might be happy just collecting a cheque, but remember most of them halved their wages overnight when we got relegated. I have it on good authority that those here next season, should we get promoted, will go back to their ‘championship money’. Plus there is decent bonuses if promotion was achieved - it’s not like they haven’t got the motivation
Or as has been suggested, maybe they just ain’t good enough?? |
Well we know most aren’t more than League 1 footballers, it’s the reason we a thoroughly deserving of remaining in this division next season. The bulk of players that have played the majority of this season are mid-table footballers.
The table never lies, you will always finish where you deserve over the course of a full season. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:21 - Mar 1 with 5944 views | haynes_toe1 |
Didn't the OP also try and find every excuse possible for Hurst whilst he was here too? |  | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:44 - Mar 1 with 5929 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 21:49 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Last time the boat was rocked the players threw their toys out the trolly after receiving home truths from Paul Hurst.
Lambert will be addressing that I’m sure, but I can’t imagine years and years of comfort culture can be changed via a click of your fingers.
Will take a lot longer than I imagine many have the patience for, unfortunately. |
When you're relying on pure speculation to defend the manager, you know the game is up. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:58 - Mar 1 with 5910 views | Melford |
There were a few things in that Bart long interview where he said the squad were resigned to relegation and there was nothing much to be done to turn the tide.
"The first thing he did was call four or five of us to his office, the senior players, and tried to get everyone together again. He asked us about the whole situation, what it's like in the dressing room and he told us he would motivate us to do it and stay up.
"He showed us stats from previous seasons which showed it was doable, but I think the damage was already done. The majority of us I think had accepted the relegation way too early, maybe in October or November. You could see it.
"There was no spark, even in training and no belief that we could do it. It was hard for Paul Lambert to do something.
"I think he still believed we could do it. We were trying to believe it and we were trying to be positive, anything to get a first win under him and then a second one. Maybe after that the momentum could take us somewhere but it wasn't to be.
What a sh!t attitude from the players, sounds like they just downed tools. From the position we were in then is WAS doable. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 23:16 - Mar 1 with 5893 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:58 - Mar 1 by Melford |
There were a few things in that Bart long interview where he said the squad were resigned to relegation and there was nothing much to be done to turn the tide.
"The first thing he did was call four or five of us to his office, the senior players, and tried to get everyone together again. He asked us about the whole situation, what it's like in the dressing room and he told us he would motivate us to do it and stay up.
"He showed us stats from previous seasons which showed it was doable, but I think the damage was already done. The majority of us I think had accepted the relegation way too early, maybe in October or November. You could see it.
"There was no spark, even in training and no belief that we could do it. It was hard for Paul Lambert to do something.
"I think he still believed we could do it. We were trying to believe it and we were trying to be positive, anything to get a first win under him and then a second one. Maybe after that the momentum could take us somewhere but it wasn't to be.
What a sh!t attitude from the players, sounds like they just downed tools. From the position we were in then is WAS doable. |
Yep. I hadn’t seen that Bart interview before but it’s how I kind of felt the squad mentality was/is.
Herbivore obviously thinks different. |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 23:33 - Mar 1 with 5877 views | jasondozzell |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 22:21 - Mar 1 by haynes_toe1 |
Didn't the OP also try and find every excuse possible for Hurst whilst he was here too? |
I'm probably guilty of wanting Hurst and Lambert to succeed so much that maybe I'm not enough of a realist, but blaming everything on the manager and thinking that a new one is the answer isn't working for us at the moment is it...
Lambert has done a lot of good in terms of connection with supporters and getting club in better shape. We have played better football. It's a lot more positive than Mick's safety first grind at the end, but we haven't created or taken enough chances. Lambert has made some good signings.
I'm not convinced he's the answer but I'm not sure getting rid of him is either. Think we have to give him a bit more time, even though that's hard to accept. I think the football has been better than under Jewell or Keane, even if his win ratio is dire. | | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:05 - Mar 2 with 5805 views | hampstead_blue |
An interesting piece.
Clearly leaning and finding lots of uses of words which can be used to paint a picture.
I've said for a long time that Chambers isn't a leader. He's a 'DS' watcher....DS meaning Directing Staff. When the eyes are on him and the team he is all fluff and bluster.
My thoughts are he does this to cover his pack of ability.
Having someone like that as your leader would give me no confidence. I'd probably point him to the door. Zero credibility.
Not sure about Skuse, he's quiet. Classy but quiet.
If, as Watson states, it's the players then I'd have had Chambers gone lone ago. Get a real leader in and you'll see the difference.
Sears alluded to 'mistakes at the back, same old' before quickly making it a team thing. He's right.
If I were next to Chambers in defence I'd be worried all the time. That has a knock-on effect.
I know Garbutt made an error, but the line running through our slide is Chambers and I'm thinking he's the core of the problem on the pitch. Was it not he and Skuse who lead the rage against Hurst?
Fair enough I'll get lots of opposing opinions but.... |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:10 - Mar 2 with 5796 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 23:33 - Mar 1 by jasondozzell |
I'm probably guilty of wanting Hurst and Lambert to succeed so much that maybe I'm not enough of a realist, but blaming everything on the manager and thinking that a new one is the answer isn't working for us at the moment is it...
Lambert has done a lot of good in terms of connection with supporters and getting club in better shape. We have played better football. It's a lot more positive than Mick's safety first grind at the end, but we haven't created or taken enough chances. Lambert has made some good signings.
I'm not convinced he's the answer but I'm not sure getting rid of him is either. Think we have to give him a bit more time, even though that's hard to accept. I think the football has been better than under Jewell or Keane, even if his win ratio is dire. |
You're mad. Lambert has served up several of my top 10 worst ITFC performances. The football is okay occasionally but mostly it's still dross. You criticise Mick for not being attack minded but we're not really scoring any more goals under Lambert in the third division than we did under Mick in the Championship. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 with 5775 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:10 - Mar 2 by Herbivore |
You're mad. Lambert has served up several of my top 10 worst ITFC performances. The football is okay occasionally but mostly it's still dross. You criticise Mick for not being attack minded but we're not really scoring any more goals under Lambert in the third division than we did under Mick in the Championship. |
To be fair, MM had better players at his disposal than what PL has currently. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 with 5771 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
To be fair, MM had better players at his disposal than what PL has currently. |
We were also playing against considerably better players |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:38 - Mar 2 with 5762 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
We were also playing against considerably better players |
Fair point, but these type of debates you can use the evidence to massage your own side of the argument. For example, you'd expect better players are going to create more chances. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:50 - Mar 2 with 5749 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:38 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
Fair point, but these type of debates you can use the evidence to massage your own side of the argument. For example, you'd expect better players are going to create more chances. |
I don’t really think it’s massaging things, we have a considerably better side and budget compared to the competition at this level than we ever did in the Championship under McCarthy. IMO on the first part, and almost certainly factually on the second | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:54 - Mar 2 with 5740 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:50 - Mar 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
I don’t really think it’s massaging things, we have a considerably better side and budget compared to the competition at this level than we ever did in the Championship under McCarthy. IMO on the first part, and almost certainly factually on the second |
I'm not going into this argument again. You've got your view and I've got mine. 44 games will show where we deserve to be. One thing that we can both agree on, this season hasn't been good enough. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:00 - Mar 2 with 5738 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:54 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
I'm not going into this argument again. You've got your view and I've got mine. 44 games will show where we deserve to be. One thing that we can both agree on, this season hasn't been good enough. |
44 games will show where Lambert has taken the side. That he’s done so with either the biggest or second biggest budget in the division will almost certainly be proven to be a fact | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:04 - Mar 2 with 5731 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:00 - Mar 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
44 games will show where Lambert has taken the side. That he’s done so with either the biggest or second biggest budget in the division will almost certainly be proven to be a fact |
Biggest budget doesn't always equate to success though.  | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:07 - Mar 2 with 5724 views | No9 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:37 - Mar 1 by J2BLUE |
I don't understand this too much influence under MM thing. MM had clear demands if you wanted to be in his team. If you met those demands you played. If you didn't, you didn't play. Seems to be a bit of a myth that he had his favourites who had too much power. |
That may well have been what MM preached but it wasn't what he practised was it?
'Proper Blokes' were his favourites.
& it seems may players who showed promised never developed. | | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:09 - Mar 2 with 5718 views | patrickswell |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 19:40 - Mar 1 by Oxford_Blue |
First, when did he say this - please provide your reference.
Secondly, even assuming he did, the results were pretty good compared to now, wouldn’t you say? |
I don’t think McCarthy ever said Chambers would play every game regardless, but I do remember a comment he made when a number of key players, particularly Christophe Berra were struggling during the post play-off seasons in that he backed them to play themselves back into form.
I remember thinking how simulataneously supportive this was of the players while also wondering why the likes of Paul Digby should bother given that their chances of getting a break when other players were struggling seemed to be remote. |  | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:13 - Mar 2 with 5705 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:04 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
Biggest budget doesn't always equate to success though. |
Well no, not when the manager is sh*t it doesn’t | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:17 - Mar 2 with 5692 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:13 - Mar 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Well no, not when the manager is sh*t it doesn’t |
And perhaps with one of the biggest budgets it shows we 'over-pay' for some rank average players?! | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:17 - Mar 2 with 5692 views | Herbivore |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
To be fair, MM had better players at his disposal than what PL has currently. |
I agree that Mick was much better at picking up good players for nothing than either Hurst or Lambert. | |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:19 - Mar 2 with 5681 views | jeera |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 08:34 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
To be fair, MM had better players at his disposal than what PL has currently. |
The players he went out and signed you mean?
Or doesn't he get credit for doing that part of his job either? |  |
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:20 - Mar 2 with 5683 views | No9 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 21:49 - Mar 1 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Last time the boat was rocked the players threw their toys out the trolly after receiving home truths from Paul Hurst.
Lambert will be addressing that I’m sure, but I can’t imagine years and years of comfort culture can be changed via a click of your fingers.
Will take a lot longer than I imagine many have the patience for, unfortunately. |
When PH took over there was a bit of the Clough -V -Leeds situation evident.
Too many non performers who had been 1st on the team sheet now found they were only equals.
PH may not have got on top of the problem as there still seems to be a bit of that haninging around which is why I believe ALL those over 28 should leave | | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:23 - Mar 2 with 5674 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:17 - Mar 2 by Chrisd |
And perhaps with one of the biggest budgets it shows we 'over-pay' for some rank average players?! |
And who’s fault would that be? Of the 16 players to have made 10+ league starts, Lambert either signed or gave new contracts to 11 of them
I completely disagree though. The squad is plenty good enough at this level, the problem is a complete failure to instil any kind of consistent system or pattern of play [Post edited 2 Mar 2020 9:24]
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| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:30 - Mar 2 with 5658 views | londontractorboy57 |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 14:37 - Mar 1 by J2BLUE |
I don't understand this too much influence under MM thing. MM had clear demands if you wanted to be in his team. If you met those demands you played. If you didn't, you didn't play. Seems to be a bit of a myth that he had his favourites who had too much power. |
A myth spread by the rabid Mick haters and look where it's got us.Numbskulls | | | |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:37 - Mar 2 with 5642 views | Chrisd |
| Good piece from Watson today. Maybe players rather than Lambert who need to do m on 09:23 - Mar 2 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
And who’s fault would that be? Of the 16 players to have made 10+ league starts, Lambert either signed or gave new contracts to 11 of them
I completely disagree though. The squad is plenty good enough at this level, the problem is a complete failure to instil any kind of consistent system or pattern of play [Post edited 2 Mar 2020 9:24]
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The owner and manager for sanctioning the deals and that's not just solely on PL we have an incredibly high number of professionals in our squad. Have a look at the list of names, a percentage of those were signed by MM and PH. We might have ability, but we lack the mentality to be real contenders and lack leaders on the pitch, that's why we fold when we are put under the slightest pressure.
No offence C HealylsAPleasure, but we'll just go around in circles with this debate. I respect your view that you feel it's all on PL, but I think differently that I think it's ME, PL and the players' fault. You aren't going to change my opinion and I'm not going to change yours. Going to bow out now though, can see this going on and on and on otherwise. | |
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