| Some expert knowledge on Covid 12:40 - Mar 16 with 3277 views | hampstead_blue |
Well worth a read. |  |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:47 - Mar 16 with 667 views | hampstead_blue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:44 - Mar 16 by monytowbray |
The government line is currently in real time utterly contradicting this post though.
Have you sussed out you can't trust the Tories yet? Please say yes? |
Not sure I agree.
The tweet is also politically agnostic.
I'd say that Jim is trying to stop people flapping and listen to the Gov scientists. After all, he's worked alongside them at Porton Down. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:48 - Mar 16 with 667 views | StokieBlue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:44 - Mar 16 by monytowbray |
The government line is currently in real time utterly contradicting this post though.
Have you sussed out you can't trust the Tories yet? Please say yes? |
For the umpteenth time the actions are based on the advisers who are the same as Labour would have had access to.
You are essentially saying that you would have wanted Labour to ignore the chief medical offer and chief scientific adviser. That's an interesting stance to take.
I am sure that if the Tories had have ignored those two and it became public knowledge you'd be all over it.
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:49 - Mar 16 with 657 views | SpruceMoose |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:47 - Mar 16 by hampstead_blue |
Not sure I agree.
The tweet is also politically agnostic.
I'd say that Jim is trying to stop people flapping and listen to the Gov scientists. After all, he's worked alongside them at Porton Down. |
Are you the guy in the tweet? There are some similarities. Just wondering. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 17:50]
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:05 - Mar 16 with 622 views | Herbivore |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:48 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue |
For the umpteenth time the actions are based on the advisers who are the same as Labour would have had access to.
You are essentially saying that you would have wanted Labour to ignore the chief medical offer and chief scientific adviser. That's an interesting stance to take.
I am sure that if the Tories had have ignored those two and it became public knowledge you'd be all over it.
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Advice is not neutral though, Stokie. You don't know what questions have been asked of the advisers. I think it's naive to think that the government just rocks up to its advisers, shrugs, and asks them to take the lead. |  |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:06 - Mar 16 with 620 views | hampstead_blue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:49 - Mar 16 by SpruceMoose |
Are you the guy in the tweet? There are some similarities. Just wondering. [Post edited 16 Mar 2020 17:50]
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No. I love tanks though. Very big, growly, and with a huge gun!
I was Int Corps and then transferred to the RAMC, Combat Medic. I was also a soldier, none of that Officer filth!
I do know him, he's a mate and a properly top bloke. Puts his team first always. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:06 - Mar 16 with 620 views | Herbivore |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:43 - Mar 16 by hampstead_blue |
Correct, well kind of but the context isn't quite what he means and I agree with.
His point is that we should follow the Gov line and ignore prigs on Celeb TV.
Jim's credentials are stated to give credibility to his point. I know him and he is so far away from some of the unkind comments made. |
It's pretty blatantly you. You got a few likes and retweets on twitter from like minded folk and thought you'd chance your arm on here by posting it up. All very odd. | |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:07 - Mar 16 with 618 views | Herbivore |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:06 - Mar 16 by hampstead_blue |
No. I love tanks though. Very big, growly, and with a huge gun!
I was Int Corps and then transferred to the RAMC, Combat Medic. I was also a soldier, none of that Officer filth!
I do know him, he's a mate and a properly top bloke. Puts his team first always. |
As a 'friend' you should advise him to not profess to be an expert on things in which he lacks expertise. Good advice to give yourself that as well. | |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:11 - Mar 16 with 610 views | StokieBlue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:05 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Advice is not neutral though, Stokie. You don't know what questions have been asked of the advisers. I think it's naive to think that the government just rocks up to its advisers, shrugs, and asks them to take the lead. |
Perhaps some truth in that but I suspect most of it is driven by what they get told. It's too serious a situation for it not to be and they would be held to account later if that wasn't the case. If they were to say "yeah, that said that but I thought I knew better" they would be for it.
It also doesn't mean that posters need to go around the board all day trying to score weird political points at a very serious time.
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:13 - Mar 16 with 603 views | Herbivore |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:11 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue |
Perhaps some truth in that but I suspect most of it is driven by what they get told. It's too serious a situation for it not to be and they would be held to account later if that wasn't the case. If they were to say "yeah, that said that but I thought I knew better" they would be for it.
It also doesn't mean that posters need to go around the board all day trying to score weird political points at a very serious time.
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Fair enough, I just think the "they're just following expert advice" line is also a bit of a cop out though. These are still ultimately political decisions and we don't know the parameters within which expert advice is being sought. | |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:14 - Mar 16 with 593 views | monytowbray |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:05 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Advice is not neutral though, Stokie. You don't know what questions have been asked of the advisers. I think it's naive to think that the government just rocks up to its advisers, shrugs, and asks them to take the lead. |
Was about to say the same thing. For all we know the brief could have been "do a science now but do it with the least economic damage possible."
Not to say that did or didn't happen, but it shows how you can get an expert to craft anything in your favour with the right instructions or limitations. I've seen this happen many times in the work place. |  |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 18:34 - Mar 16 with 569 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 17:48 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue |
For the umpteenth time the actions are based on the advisers who are the same as Labour would have had access to.
You are essentially saying that you would have wanted Labour to ignore the chief medical offer and chief scientific adviser. That's an interesting stance to take.
I am sure that if the Tories had have ignored those two and it became public knowledge you'd be all over it.
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Not necessarily wholly true. The CMO, CSA and civil service expertise would probably be the same with any government. But this government are also paying a lot of heed to ‘nudge theory’ from the now privatised, part-Govt owned, former Behavioural Insights Team. It’s this nudge theory that’s had a major impact on shaping our response so far (although as of Boris’ announcement earlier that now looks to be abandoned/changed)..
Nb. Apparently there is no “published evidence showing that applying nudge theory to something like coronavirus is empirically accurate”:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-science-mental-health/202003/is-nudg |  |
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| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 21:04 - Mar 16 with 513 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Some expert knowledge on Covid on 12:46 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue |
Not sure about any of that to be honest. Comparisons to the Spanish Flu are nearly pointless given different vectors, incubation periods, r0 and mortality rate. They also don't factor in improvements in modelling and medicine.
There was also a rather large war going on during the Spanish flu outbreak.
You just like it because it's a military person who is supporting your view.
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Hasn’t war basically ended? |  | | |
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