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‘Proper’ football clubs. 22:20 - Apr 16 with 1228 viewsMattinLondon

From time-to-time I read posters saying that various clubs are ‘proper’. What do people mean by this? A long history, a large fan base, a good stadium?? If so, was Ipswich a proper club when it won the league?
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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:11 - Apr 16 with 1157 viewsGuthrum

Primarily it seems to mean "not having bought its way to the top".

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:20 - Apr 16 with 1141 viewsMattinLondon

‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:11 - Apr 16 by Guthrum

Primarily it seems to mean "not having bought its way to the top".


To a certain extent all of the bigger clubs have splashed the cash to see them stay at the top. Just some like Man City spend a lot within a few years which seems to upset some.
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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:37 - Apr 16 with 1120 viewsWeWereZombies

‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:11 - Apr 16 by Guthrum

Primarily it seems to mean "not having bought its way to the top".


That is part of it but I also think there are other factors too:

a) A substantial fan base that sticks with the club through thick and thin, e.g, Sheffield United, Burnley, Wolves, Portsmouth, even Leeds

b) A perceptible connection between owners, club personnel and supporters

c) A ground and surroundings that have a bit of character, this can rule out clubs that have gone for the convenience of edge of town and identikit new stadia, e.g. Derby, Colchester, Reading

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 23:53 - Apr 16 with 1107 viewsOldsmoker

I think some of it is the way the club conducts its business.
ME has carried on the traditions no matter what grievances you have with him.
We don't discuss transfers until after they are done.
When a player is injured we help to recuperate them even though they are out of contract eg Grant Ward.
We have an academy and develop players.
We stand by our manager and don't ditch them when the going gets tough.
ITFC players rarely make the Suns back pages and when they do (Chopra) the club supports them and don't hang them out to dry.
That's a proper football club.

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 11:11 - Apr 17 with 920 viewsElephantintheRoom

It can mean anything you want it to. Tends to describe clubs that live vaguely within their means and represent and acknowledge their fans and communities. And in return they are something vaguely wholesome you are not embarrassed to support.

So yes - in the last century when Town were one of the most admired clubs in the land, they were held up as 'a proper football club'. And nowadays they are anything but.

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 11:39 - Apr 17 with 894 viewsSwansea_Blue

Not Norwich I assume.

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 12:15 - Apr 17 with 860 viewsRadlett_blue

You could also ask them what "the Ipswich way" is.

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 12:18 - Apr 17 with 854 viewsSuperblue95

‘Proper’ football clubs. on 12:15 - Apr 17 by Radlett_blue

You could also ask them what "the Ipswich way" is.


Being sh1t, presumably?

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 13:01 - Apr 17 with 813 viewsChutney

In my experience it's typically a defence mechanism for supporters of clubs that once enjoyed some success, but are now largely insignificant, to try and reclaim some sort of high ground vs. the new kids on the block.

"I mean, yeah, sure, you're winning trophies now and getting to travel to some of the best stadia in the world, and watch some of the greatest players that have ever donned a pair of boots wear your shirt, BUT WE'VE GOT BRADLEY DACK AND WHERE WERE YOU IN 1885 WHEN WE WERE WINNING THE FA CUP?"
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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 07:28 - Apr 18 with 658 viewsDinnernotTea

‘Proper’ football clubs. on 13:01 - Apr 17 by Chutney

In my experience it's typically a defence mechanism for supporters of clubs that once enjoyed some success, but are now largely insignificant, to try and reclaim some sort of high ground vs. the new kids on the block.

"I mean, yeah, sure, you're winning trophies now and getting to travel to some of the best stadia in the world, and watch some of the greatest players that have ever donned a pair of boots wear your shirt, BUT WE'VE GOT BRADLEY DACK AND WHERE WERE YOU IN 1885 WHEN WE WERE WINNING THE FA CUP?"


A bit of this. Us, Sheff Wed, Forest, Leeds etc will all say we are. I still think that's true but fans more likely to beat that drum because all these clubs have been crap for so long.

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‘Proper’ football clubs. on 07:30 - Apr 18 with 657 viewsitfcjoe

If you have to ask, then you don’t know

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