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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting 18:53 - Jun 2 with 1384 viewsTrequartista

Absolutely outrageous. Why is this not on the BBC front page, yet "Tiger King zoo handed to rival Carole Baskin" makes it on there?

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:54 - Jun 2 with 1369 viewsSpruceMoose

Can us ex-pats get a link at least?

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:55 - Jun 2 with 1362 viewsHerbivore

The BBC is cowed by the government, it's pretty obvious.

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:57 - Jun 2 with 1347 viewsSpruceMoose

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:55 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

The BBC is cowed by the government, it's pretty obvious.


But I thought it was the propaganda wing of the LeftieBumFest?!

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:59 - Jun 2 with 1348 viewsTrequartista

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:55 - Jun 2 by Herbivore

The BBC is cowed by the government, it's pretty obvious.


It's a very schizophrenic organisation at the moment in my view, it's heart is left-leaning but some sections are, as you infer, terrified about the licence fee being removed by the government.

I don't think this story is high up on many news agendas though to be fair.
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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 19:02 - Jun 2 with 1332 viewsNthQldITFC

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:57 - Jun 2 by SpruceMoose

But I thought it was the propaganda wing of the LeftieBumFest?!


Seems to depend largely on your point of view, so far as I can see, which isn't very far. It's kind of everybody's monster, in a frightfully nice way. And it's general standard of journalism is far more sloppy than it used to was. Constant confusion between the words 'of' and 'with' as a pertinent, contemporary example.
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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 19:15 - Jun 2 with 1289 viewspointofblue

Because the pairing system should mean that every MP who is unable to vote absent should see a MP who would have voted the other way step aside to balance it out. The pairing system has been around for decades though it’s most well known ‘failure’ is from 1979 where the Labour Chief Whip failed to force the Conservative Chief Whip to pair up with an absent Labour MP, Sir Alfred Broughton. The result was a vote of no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government by just one ‘aye’ and a general election.

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 19:48 - Jun 2 with 1235 viewsTrequartista

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 19:15 - Jun 2 by pointofblue

Because the pairing system should mean that every MP who is unable to vote absent should see a MP who would have voted the other way step aside to balance it out. The pairing system has been around for decades though it’s most well known ‘failure’ is from 1979 where the Labour Chief Whip failed to force the Conservative Chief Whip to pair up with an absent Labour MP, Sir Alfred Broughton. The result was a vote of no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government by just one ‘aye’ and a general election.


There are quite a number though that will not be able to make it now because of the shielding rules, dozens i think, whereas i thought pairing is just for the odd one or two.

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 20:54 - Jun 2 with 1150 viewsfactual_blue

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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 21:06 - Jun 2 with 1126 viewsClapham_Junction

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 19:15 - Jun 2 by pointofblue

Because the pairing system should mean that every MP who is unable to vote absent should see a MP who would have voted the other way step aside to balance it out. The pairing system has been around for decades though it’s most well known ‘failure’ is from 1979 where the Labour Chief Whip failed to force the Conservative Chief Whip to pair up with an absent Labour MP, Sir Alfred Broughton. The result was a vote of no confidence in Her Majesty’s Government by just one ‘aye’ and a general election.


Unfortunately during the last parliament, the chief whip of the Conservatives ordered their MPs to break the pairing arrangements on borderline votes to try and win them. I would be surprised if any opposition party has any trust in them now.
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MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 21:20 - Jun 2 with 1088 viewsDarth_Koont

MPs being effectively being prevented from voting on 18:59 - Jun 2 by Trequartista

It's a very schizophrenic organisation at the moment in my view, it's heart is left-leaning but some sections are, as you infer, terrified about the licence fee being removed by the government.

I don't think this story is high up on many news agendas though to be fair.
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"Its heart is left-leaning"

Hmmm. Last century I think they were much more centre. Perhaps with a leftish tinge as that's where most proper factual journalists have always been.

But since then Blair passed them moving right. They're pretty much centre-right now, which is either a fairer representation of the audience's leanings or because that's where the government funding comes from. Probably a bit of both.
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