| Not sure GB will be back... 22:32 - Oct 28 with 4557 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
....if this is all they come up with. No mention of anything institutional so far!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/28/labour-figures-braced-antisemit
"The EHRC is not expected to make direct recommendations that disciplinary action should be taken against high-profile individuals such as Corbyn. But sources close to the inquiry said an earlier draft report found evidence of indirect discrimination in the operation of the party’s processes, which would be a breach of equalities law." |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 08:38 - Oct 29 with 2020 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 00:02 - Oct 29 by jeera |
Some common ground at least.
Mayo became trendy in the 80s didn't it. People were suddenly dismissive of my childhood favourite of salad cream and things like the M&S prawn mayonnaise sandwich was the new Vienetta.
I don't mind mayonnaise with some things, but usually when I do have it, I always think it would taste better with some vinegar added, and maybe some mustard powder, and maybe a good drop of rapeseed oil... |
Sophistication arrived in the 70's with that dressing from Thousand Island. | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 08:51 - Oct 29 with 2005 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 22:55 - Oct 28 by jeera |
If we were to go down the trash food route.
It has to be ketchup in bacon rolls. It complements them.
Brown sauce just takes over and you can't taste the bacon. |
It wouldn't take over if you used it more sparingly. |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:06 - Oct 29 with 1954 views | ElderGrizzly |
This doesn't read well for "Party Leadership" - NEC or Corbyn?
An investigation into the Labour Party by the Equalities Watchdog has found it was responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination.
The party is responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act (2010) relating to:
- Political interference in antisemitism complaints.
- Failure to provide adequate training to those handling antisemitism complaints.
- Harassment
A report just published by the Equality and Human Rights Commission identified what it described as “serious failings in the Labour Party leadership in addressing antisemitism and an inadequate process for handling antisemitism complaints.”
The EHRC said its analysis “points to a culture within the Party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it.”
The equalities watchdog found evidence of political interference in the complaints process, with 23 instances of inappropriate involvement by the Leader of the Opposition’s Office (LOTO) and others in the 70 files looked at. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 10:15]
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:18 - Oct 29 with 1944 views | factual_blue |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:19 - Oct 29 with 1943 views | BloomBlue |
In a statement, it said: "The equality body's analysis points to a culture within the party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent anti-Semitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it."
In other words racism against Jewish people |  | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:19 - Oct 29 with 1941 views | WeWereZombies |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 07:20 - Oct 29 by gordon |
I'd been wondering why we were so short of threads blaming anti-racism protestors for violence against minorities. Then I noticed that we were also a little shy on Corbyn mega-threads, and I realised someone was missing. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 7:21]
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Now I may be putting two and two together and surmising that the answer is five, but I do wonder if GB and Hampstead were ever seen in the same room together?
[whooshes expected] |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:21 - Oct 29 with 1932 views | footers |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:19 - Oct 29 by WeWereZombies |
Now I may be putting two and two together and surmising that the answer is five, but I do wonder if GB and Hampstead were ever seen in the same room together?
[whooshes expected] |
Have you and Craig David? |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:22 - Oct 29 with 1932 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:06 - Oct 29 by ElderGrizzly |
This doesn't read well for "Party Leadership" - NEC or Corbyn?
An investigation into the Labour Party by the Equalities Watchdog has found it was responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination.
The party is responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act (2010) relating to:
- Political interference in antisemitism complaints.
- Failure to provide adequate training to those handling antisemitism complaints.
- Harassment
A report just published by the Equality and Human Rights Commission identified what it described as “serious failings in the Labour Party leadership in addressing antisemitism and an inadequate process for handling antisemitism complaints.”
The EHRC said its analysis “points to a culture within the Party which, at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and, at worst, could be seen to accept it.”
The equalities watchdog found evidence of political interference in the complaints process, with 23 instances of inappropriate involvement by the Leader of the Opposition’s Office (LOTO) and others in the 70 files looked at. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 10:15]
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Well it was hardly ever likely to read well was it?
However charges of institutional racism, which certain people had nailed themselves to, there are not!
Somebody will be hovered over their keyboard a while longer! | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:24 - Oct 29 with 1921 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:22 - Oct 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Well it was hardly ever likely to read well was it?
However charges of institutional racism, which certain people had nailed themselves to, there are not!
Somebody will be hovered over their keyboard a while longer! |
So only the Leadership was anti-Semitic, not the party itself?
Because a lot of the criticism of this report is pointing directly at the LOTO and the conduct within | | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:26 - Oct 29 with 1909 views | WeWereZombies |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:21 - Oct 29 by footers |
Have you and Craig David? |
I asked him out for a drink on Tuesday... | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:29 - Oct 29 with 1902 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:24 - Oct 29 by ElderGrizzly |
So only the Leadership was anti-Semitic, not the party itself?
Because a lot of the criticism of this report is pointing directly at the LOTO and the conduct within |
You will need to find some quotes for that part about the leadership being antisemitic....it seems to suggest that politicians politic.....quelle surpris, colour me shocked! | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:42 - Oct 29 with 1880 views | BloomBlue |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:29 - Oct 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You will need to find some quotes for that part about the leadership being antisemitic....it seems to suggest that politicians politic.....quelle surpris, colour me shocked! |
As leaders it's their responsibility to stop it, by staying 'I'm not' doesn't stop you being accountable
It's like an owner of an company, if that company was sending out racist material if the owner said but I'm not racists it doesn't make it acceptable and doesn't take away the owner has responsibility for the material | | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:51 - Oct 29 with 1866 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:42 - Oct 29 by BloomBlue |
As leaders it's their responsibility to stop it, by staying 'I'm not' doesn't stop you being accountable
It's like an owner of an company, if that company was sending out racist material if the owner said but I'm not racists it doesn't make it acceptable and doesn't take away the owner has responsibility for the material |
Having responsibility (and failing) to stop something doesn't necessarily make you that thing. |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:56 - Oct 29 with 1849 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:51 - Oct 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Having responsibility (and failing) to stop something doesn't necessarily make you that thing. |
If you don't stop it or act upon it on 23 occasions, it doesn't make you look great.
I've said before on here, I don't believe Corbyn himself is AS, but there is clearly a culture around him who seemed accepting of AS if it was politically beneficial. | | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 12:04 - Oct 29 with 1807 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 10:56 - Oct 29 by ElderGrizzly |
If you don't stop it or act upon it on 23 occasions, it doesn't make you look great.
I've said before on here, I don't believe Corbyn himself is AS, but there is clearly a culture around him who seemed accepting of AS if it was politically beneficial. |
I agree with you, and haven't said otherwise. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:14 - Oct 29 with 1763 views | vindicatedblue |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:15 - Oct 29 with 1755 views | jeera |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:14 - Oct 29 by vindicatedblue |
This thread has aged well |
It is one day old. [?] |  |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:20 - Oct 29 with 1730 views | longtimefan |
If only the report had been published a year ago. KS could have taken over then and we might not of ended up with this pox of a government! |  | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:28 - Oct 29 with 1708 views | BloomBlue |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:20 - Oct 29 by longtimefan |
If only the report had been published a year ago. KS could have taken over then and we might not of ended up with this pox of a government! |
If it had been published 1 year ago KS wouldn't be labour leader he was part of that Corbyn leadership team. You think the labour faithful would vote for someone to be leader in that situation? | | | |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:31 - Oct 29 with 1698 views | noggin |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:16 - Oct 29 by BanksterDebtSlave |
How so unvindicated Glaswegian one?
Damp squib comes to mind.
Edit.....now off to the dentist with you! [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 14:17]
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Has he really returned on the day the report was released? I'm sure it's just coincidence. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 14:38]
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:40 - Oct 29 with 1681 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:31 - Oct 29 by noggin |
Has he really returned on the day the report was released? I'm sure it's just coincidence. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 14:38]
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Oh believe me, in his dreams it was meant to be so much more than this! | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:49 - Oct 29 with 1660 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 12:04 - Oct 29 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I agree with you, and haven't said otherwise. |
The chief investigator reached a fairly simple conclusion too
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 15:10 - Oct 29 with 1641 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 14:49 - Oct 29 by ElderGrizzly |
The chief investigator reached a fairly simple conclusion too
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Again, why are you posting this at me? Where have I said differently? | |
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| Not sure GB will be back... on 19:13 - Oct 29 with 1582 views | bournemouthblue |
| Not sure GB will be back... on 05:56 - Oct 29 by solomon |
Best to wait until the report is published. Can’t speak for GB but there are some of us with Jewish heritage who await this report with great anticipation. |
Fairly disappointing I should imagine?
It has suggested there wasn't institutional racism within the party itself? |  |
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