| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown 20:15 - Jan 4 with 1718 views | itfcjoe |
7 weeks until end of half term, 2-3 weeks for vaccines to kick in and that will be healthcare, care workers and the over 70s sorted.....guess each phase from that point takes longer as more people |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 07:49 - Jan 5 with 1464 views | TractorWood |
The papers seem to be saying that we are going to vaccinate 13m people by Mid February. Given that we've vaccinated 1m in 4 weeks I've no idea how 13m in 6 weeks is even remotely plausible. |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:09 - Jan 5 with 1419 views | DanTheMan |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 07:49 - Jan 5 by TractorWood |
The papers seem to be saying that we are going to vaccinate 13m people by Mid February. Given that we've vaccinated 1m in 4 weeks I've no idea how 13m in 6 weeks is even remotely plausible. |
At a guess, they're hoping that the Oxford vaccine will be easier to distribute and administer. |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:11 - Jan 5 with 1413 views | itfcjoe |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 07:49 - Jan 5 by TractorWood |
The papers seem to be saying that we are going to vaccinate 13m people by Mid February. Given that we've vaccinated 1m in 4 weeks I've no idea how 13m in 6 weeks is even remotely plausible. |
We haven't had the Oxford one available, which should speed things up, but does feel like it is unlikely to happen - the vaxx needs to ramp up as we aren't going to go from where we are to 2m this week......means that to hit it we will prob need to be doing 3-3.5m a week by the end of this period | |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:23 - Jan 5 with 1371 views | TractorWood |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:11 - Jan 5 by itfcjoe |
We haven't had the Oxford one available, which should speed things up, but does feel like it is unlikely to happen - the vaxx needs to ramp up as we aren't going to go from where we are to 2m this week......means that to hit it we will prob need to be doing 3-3.5m a week by the end of this period |
If you include weekends, which to me is a pretty questionable assumption it's 500k a day at peak. It's taken the best part of a year to get our testing regime to that level.
When you consider that the vaxx needs final QC and putting into vials, which there is apparently a global shortage of and the host of people who should be getting their 2nd booster and staff who will inevitably need to self isolate it all seems highly unlikely. | |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:28 - Jan 5 with 1348 views | StokieBlue |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:23 - Jan 5 by TractorWood |
If you include weekends, which to me is a pretty questionable assumption it's 500k a day at peak. It's taken the best part of a year to get our testing regime to that level.
When you consider that the vaxx needs final QC and putting into vials, which there is apparently a global shortage of and the host of people who should be getting their 2nd booster and staff who will inevitably need to self isolate it all seems highly unlikely. |
It's certainly a bullish target but the Oxford vaccine can be given anywhere, all GPs offices for instance because it doesn't need to be super-cooled for transport and storage. There are huge limitations on how and where the Pfizer vaccine can be administered which is why there are complaints in France and the US about how slowly it's going.
France only managed ~500 vaccinations all last week. Italy not really much better.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55529240
I don't think they will make that target but it's good to aim for something. The second booster won't affect the rollout of Oxford, only Pfizer locations will get the second booster.
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:31 - Jan 5 with 1324 views | TractorWood |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:28 - Jan 5 by StokieBlue |
It's certainly a bullish target but the Oxford vaccine can be given anywhere, all GPs offices for instance because it doesn't need to be super-cooled for transport and storage. There are huge limitations on how and where the Pfizer vaccine can be administered which is why there are complaints in France and the US about how slowly it's going.
France only managed ~500 vaccinations all last week. Italy not really much better.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55529240
I don't think they will make that target but it's good to aim for something. The second booster won't affect the rollout of Oxford, only Pfizer locations will get the second booster.
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Agree on the target.
Pfizer will affect it because you have less people who can potentially administer the mammoth scale of required AZ vaccinations.
Thanks for that article. The French are having a mare. [Post edited 5 Jan 2021 8:38]
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:34 - Jan 5 with 1295 views | GeoffSentence |
I am pretty sure it will be longer. I wouldnt expect things to be relaxed until tsome time in April at the earliest. As well as your timetable I tihnk there will be extra time needed for hospitiisation and death rates to drop,. As well as that I would be surprised if the vaccines got rolled out as quickly as hoped. |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:44 - Jan 5 with 1246 views | Herbivore |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:34 - Jan 5 by GeoffSentence |
I am pretty sure it will be longer. I wouldnt expect things to be relaxed until tsome time in April at the earliest. As well as your timetable I tihnk there will be extra time needed for hospitiisation and death rates to drop,. As well as that I would be surprised if the vaccines got rolled out as quickly as hoped. |
Things are as bad or worse in comparison to the first peak and we ended up being locked down for about 3 months, so I think April is probably realistic. |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:50 - Jan 5 with 1226 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:23 - Jan 5 by TractorWood |
If you include weekends, which to me is a pretty questionable assumption it's 500k a day at peak. It's taken the best part of a year to get our testing regime to that level.
When you consider that the vaxx needs final QC and putting into vials, which there is apparently a global shortage of and the host of people who should be getting their 2nd booster and staff who will inevitably need to self isolate it all seems highly unlikely. |
Surely they are doing weekends? That’s 30% of the week. |  | | |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:51 - Jan 5 with 1224 views | textbackup |
50p says the virus finds a way round the vaccine in next 3/4 weeks |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:54 - Jan 5 with 1210 views | Steve_M |
Earliest possible change is going to be late Feb:
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 11:04 - Jan 5 with 1005 views | TractorWood |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:50 - Jan 5 by PrideOfTheEast |
Surely they are doing weekends? That’s 30% of the week. |
You'd think they'd be working 24/7 but nothing would suprise me with this Government. I'm not sure if they've scrapped the requirement for vaccinators to have hostage negotiation training yet. | |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 11:06 - Jan 5 with 998 views | DanTheMan |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 08:54 - Jan 5 by Steve_M |
Earliest possible change is going to be late Feb:
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Well at least I managed to get a decent birthday last year. | |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 11:12 - Jan 5 with 968 views | Radlett_blue |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 11:04 - Jan 5 by TractorWood |
You'd think they'd be working 24/7 but nothing would suprise me with this Government. I'm not sure if they've scrapped the requirement for vaccinators to have hostage negotiation training yet. |
That kind of stuff is hugely irritating but the reality is that the real barrier is the supply chain for the vaccine. I agree that lockdown until at least end February looks inevitable (hugely depressing) but the reality is that it could be longer than that. The government has a shocking record of managing expectations. |  |
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| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 13:19 - Jan 5 with 816 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 11:12 - Jan 5 by Radlett_blue |
That kind of stuff is hugely irritating but the reality is that the real barrier is the supply chain for the vaccine. I agree that lockdown until at least end February looks inevitable (hugely depressing) but the reality is that it could be longer than that. The government has a shocking record of managing expectations. |
Yep. I'm fully expecting it to be significantly longer. | | | |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 13:21 - Jan 5 with 809 views | hype313 |
| Sounds like going to be at least 9-10 weeks of full lockdown on 13:19 - Jan 5 by PrideOfTheEast |
Yep. I'm fully expecting it to be significantly longer. |
Any deadline Boris gives, it's best to add an extra 3 months. |  |
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