| Evans - Mr unlucky? 16:08 - Feb 13 with 4118 views | Lord_Lucan |
I know it is popular to moan at Evans and I am no longer as big an apologist of him as I was, after all he is in possession of a club that is in a desperate crisis and probably hasn't hit rock bottom yet. I also think his treatment of Magilton was very poor - but most of the time he has done exactly what the fans have wanted.
Roy Keane; He was a big name with big ambitions and most people were very excited when he joined. It failed and everyone wanted him out so he went.
Jewell; I'm on the fence with this one as I thought it was a strange choice but he did wonders at Wigan. I don't recall many people being too upset. It went tits up and then we clearly needed a Steady Eddie to save us
Mick Mack; Saved us from relegation and welcomed by fans. Went on to produce some exciting football. I remember against Brentford on Boxing day we looked magnificent. Should have strengthened after Brentford but I don't think Mick was keen as he didn't want to upset the applecart. From memory (and I am prepared to be corrected) money was available.
Love him or loathe him it was pretty bloody terrible towards the end, fans were screaming for a young up and coming track suit manager.
Paul Hurst; Fans got their young track suit manager and it was a disaster.
Paul Lambert; Welcomed by fans and for a short time it was banners galore all over the ground. RAMBO LAMBO was the man.
By and large Evans has done exactly what fans have asked, he keeps the club from bankruptcy and doesn't get involved with team affairs. He has at points during his tenure put a few quid in although got his fingers burnt badly by Keane.
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 22:58 - Feb 13 with 548 views | Sebastian |
”got his fingers burnt badly by Keane.”
This was 10 years and 4 managers ago. If he still loses sleep over that he’s bonkers. |  |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 23:35 - Feb 13 with 534 views | tractordownsouth |
I think the Keane and Mick appointments were both sensible ones, in that they were both seen as coups at the time. Obviously Keane was a disaster, but that's with hindsight.
Appointing Jewell after his dismal spell at Derby was a poor decision though, and while Hurst's hiring seemed logical at the time, not putting a proper structure in place was a big mistake.
Undoubtedly Evans' biggest managerial error has been the 5 year contract though. It was supposedly negotiated in October 2019, when we were top of the league, but Lambert still had 18 months to run on his deal, so there was no rush to extend it at all, let alone till 2025. |  |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 03:12 - Feb 14 with 501 views | BlueForYou |
Given the choice again, would we have been better with Ross instead of Hurst? He might have been a better fit & also a better fit than he was at Sunderland? Who else was available at the time? |  | | |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 09:14 - Feb 14 with 456 views | Slambo |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 16:22 - Feb 13 by jeera |
Agree with most of that in principle and don't think that's an unfair summary at all.
Especially on Jim, thought that was poor show, and, although there were a number who didn't like the Keane appointment, loads definitely bought into the excitement and went over-board. Thought it was an awful fit myself but there you go.
Agree on PJ, by then we'd have settled for pretty much anyone. The fact he didn't come across as a total c*** was welcome on its own.
As you say and has been pointed out lots of times yet still ignored by some quarters, Mick said himself he had a happy changing room (regarding that January) and didn't want to screw it up.
Yes it was then all about Ross and Hurst and most of us were taken aback at how badly that went so fast. Again as you say, the chance being taken on this younger up and coming manager was lauded at the time.
Lambert, not everyone was convinced on that one to be fair. Evan's was more than a bit desperate by then and again, he'd tried various angles and it's clear he just doesn't know what to do next. He's at a loss which is fully understandable in that respect.
Still has a lot to answer for the way he's run things though. He shouldn't be in charge if he doesn't know what he's doing. Employ someone who does Evans ffs. [Post edited 13 Feb 2021 16:33]
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Hmm. It was reported in The Athletic that Mick had approached Evans that January for a striker and a midfielder, but Evans 'didn't want to jepoardise the future of the club', presumably by splashing out on a couple of signings that we'd be lumbered with if we didn't go up... |  |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 09:31 - Feb 14 with 438 views | Slambo |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 16:26 - Feb 13 by nodge_blue |
I agree with you.
All his appointments have had success at other clubs. None were complete gambles.
Its hard to say why we've gone backwards. A combination of alot of things. Not quite right in the transfer market (esp Hurst), different playing styles rather than a settled club pattern like a Brentford?, long term injury jinxes, lack of a top goal scorer over the years....
Keep hoping the tide will turn but theres little sign yet. |
Thing is, you have to be extremely careful with appointing managers who have had success at other clubs. No man is an island, as they say, and behind every successful manager there are people supporting and enabling his success. This is why i'm very sceptical about the potential appointments of Paul Cook or the Cowleys. The Cowleys turned Lincoln into a force, but they've been gone from there for a couple of years now and Lincoln are only getting better; ditto Paul Cook and Accrington. Andy Holt is arguably the most hard-working and dedicated owner in the game. Any manager would thrive there...
Marcus Evans buying this football club was the greatest calamity in its history. I don't think he's ever acted in spite towards us, but he has nonetheless turned us into a laughing stock and I loathe him with every fibre or being for this. There'll be dancing in the streets of Ipswich on the glorious day that he sells the club and p1sses off... | |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 10:20 - Feb 14 with 424 views | nodge_blue |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 09:31 - Feb 14 by Slambo |
Thing is, you have to be extremely careful with appointing managers who have had success at other clubs. No man is an island, as they say, and behind every successful manager there are people supporting and enabling his success. This is why i'm very sceptical about the potential appointments of Paul Cook or the Cowleys. The Cowleys turned Lincoln into a force, but they've been gone from there for a couple of years now and Lincoln are only getting better; ditto Paul Cook and Accrington. Andy Holt is arguably the most hard-working and dedicated owner in the game. Any manager would thrive there...
Marcus Evans buying this football club was the greatest calamity in its history. I don't think he's ever acted in spite towards us, but he has nonetheless turned us into a laughing stock and I loathe him with every fibre or being for this. There'll be dancing in the streets of Ipswich on the glorious day that he sells the club and p1sses off... |
I have a feeling that in the middle years he lost a degree of interest and stomach for the financial input. He looked over us at arms length rather than the full on ownership that is needed.
To some degree thats understandable given his other business interests.
But I don't think its helped the club. Too much drift.
I do think at this moment he is doing more and trying to turn it around. But he keeps backing the wrong horses and not acting on what he sees. |  |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 12:22 - Feb 14 with 400 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 16:26 - Feb 13 by nodge_blue |
I agree with you.
All his appointments have had success at other clubs. None were complete gambles.
Its hard to say why we've gone backwards. A combination of alot of things. Not quite right in the transfer market (esp Hurst), different playing styles rather than a settled club pattern like a Brentford?, long term injury jinxes, lack of a top goal scorer over the years....
Keep hoping the tide will turn but theres little sign yet. |
The finances required to compete even at Championship level have changed beyond all recognition since he became owner. He was sold the dream of a couple of million pound investment leading to promotion to the big time.
I think the bottom line is that he is not prepared to invest/lose the amounts of money required to seriously compete. You just have to look at the likes of Derby to see that even then money guarantees nothing. |  |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 12:33 - Feb 14 with 394 views | NorrisHatter |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 09:31 - Feb 14 by Slambo |
Thing is, you have to be extremely careful with appointing managers who have had success at other clubs. No man is an island, as they say, and behind every successful manager there are people supporting and enabling his success. This is why i'm very sceptical about the potential appointments of Paul Cook or the Cowleys. The Cowleys turned Lincoln into a force, but they've been gone from there for a couple of years now and Lincoln are only getting better; ditto Paul Cook and Accrington. Andy Holt is arguably the most hard-working and dedicated owner in the game. Any manager would thrive there...
Marcus Evans buying this football club was the greatest calamity in its history. I don't think he's ever acted in spite towards us, but he has nonetheless turned us into a laughing stock and I loathe him with every fibre or being for this. There'll be dancing in the streets of Ipswich on the glorious day that he sells the club and p1sses off... |
Paul Cook didn't exactly fail at Accrington. And your analysis of what happens when he leaves clubs is seriously incomplete. He got Chesterfield promoted. Look at them now. He got Portsmouth promoted. They've hardly kicked on big style since he left to go to Wigan, who he also got promoted and almost kept up despite the points deduction when they went bust. I'd say in fact that Paul Cook's impact on a club is very obvious when you look at where they were before he arrived and where they went to after he left. | | | |
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| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 13:00 - Feb 14 with 384 views | RegencyBlue |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 10:20 - Feb 14 by nodge_blue |
I have a feeling that in the middle years he lost a degree of interest and stomach for the financial input. He looked over us at arms length rather than the full on ownership that is needed.
To some degree thats understandable given his other business interests.
But I don't think its helped the club. Too much drift.
I do think at this moment he is doing more and trying to turn it around. But he keeps backing the wrong horses and not acting on what he sees. |
Evans thought he saw an opportunity to make a fast buck here with minimal outlay. His whole strategy was based on buying the then debt at a fraction of its face value, put in a few million to gain rapid promotion to the Premiership and get the debt paid back in full. He could then keep syphoning off money from the club or sell it on as a Premiership club.It didn’t work and the club has been paying the price for that failure ever since!
As far as Evans is concerned we are a business gamble that went wrong and looking at the state of the club I don’t detect any sign he is trying to turn anything around. In fact I have no idea what he is trying to do and I don’t think he has either! |  | | |
| Evans - Mr unlucky? on 13:05 - Feb 14 with 377 views | thebooks |
I don’t think he’s done what the fans want at all, apart from appoint Hurst. The rest is a story of disinvestment, mismanagement, miscommunication and gradual decline.
Besides, isn’t his job to get the club doing well rather than simply do as the fans want (whatever that is)?
Interesting this is such a popular post, though. I suspect the current disatisfaction will blow over and Town fans will revert to complete lack of expectation type, and cap-doffing to our millionaire owner. |  | | |
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