| Explain the logic please 18:40 - Mar 15 with 3147 views | Fixed_It |
Club needs investment. Evans is still the owner. Some fans decide to stop putting money into the club whilst he is still there. So the Club get less money, and there is less likely to be investment.
I just don't get it. As a fan I will support the Club irrespective of who is the owner. I am gutted that the takeover looks to be stalling. But they are still my Club, and I will still support them. |  |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:31 - Mar 15 with 1140 views | chrismakin |
| Explain the logic please on 19:29 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
You've twisted it. That is absolutely not what was said. Twice in this thread you have flat out lied. |
How.
Churchman specially says hed be happy to go back paying to support the club in the conference.
ctly where you are with this.
If the club has to start again in Blue Square Sideways league after he’s destroyed this version of it, I’ll happily support that and put my £ into it. But MEs portfolio portfolio will get nothing from me. [Post edited 15 Mar 2021 19:33]
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| Explain the logic please on 19:35 - Mar 15 with 1122 views | dirtyboy |
| Explain the logic please on 18:58 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
It doesn't. |
Can you give me a suitable analogy for why you think you can demand what another person does and feel it’s justified? |  | | |
| Explain the logic please on 19:37 - Mar 15 with 1114 views | J2BLUE |
| Explain the logic please on 19:31 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
How.
Churchman specially says hed be happy to go back paying to support the club in the conference.
ctly where you are with this.
If the club has to start again in Blue Square Sideways league after he’s destroyed this version of it, I’ll happily support that and put my £ into it. But MEs portfolio portfolio will get nothing from me. [Post edited 15 Mar 2021 19:33]
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You've completely twisted it. You said:
Short term pain like taking the club to conference would be the better than having Evans as it could then be rebuilt.
That is not what Churchman said. He basically said he wouldn't be surprised if we were down there because Evans was destroying the club and he would support the club once Evans goes. Not that it would be better to do that just to get rid of Evans. Twice you have twisted what has been said to try and discredit our argument. |  |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:40 - Mar 15 with 1107 views | LeoMuff |
Club needs investment, owner is worth nearly $1 billion. He wouldn’t even sanction the re investment of transfer fees from sales, that is the bare minimum to progress as a club.
The pitch is a field, the Portman road moss now infamous, contracts left to expire on players worth a fee , sports science appears pre historic , the list goes on.
He doesn’t listen to fans, managers, or act on our decline, maybe he will listen people expressing their thoughts via wallets and feet. |  |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:40 - Mar 15 with 1098 views | J2BLUE |
| Explain the logic please on 19:35 - Mar 15 by dirtyboy |
Can you give me a suitable analogy for why you think you can demand what another person does and feel it’s justified? |
No but I can explain my position. He bought the club as an investment gamble. It hasn't worked out. He should own the loss and sell up. He is never going to get us to the Premier League and we will never compete in the top half of the Championship while he is here. He needs to sell for his own sake as much as anything. He's losing millions per year. He has proven he is not capable of running a club properly and he has proven he won't delegate power. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:42 - Mar 15 with 1090 views | chrismakin |
| Explain the logic please on 19:37 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
You've completely twisted it. You said:
Short term pain like taking the club to conference would be the better than having Evans as it could then be rebuilt.
That is not what Churchman said. He basically said he wouldn't be surprised if we were down there because Evans was destroying the club and he would support the club once Evans goes. Not that it would be better to do that just to get rid of Evans. Twice you have twisted what has been said to try and discredit our argument. |
Not twisted that's how I take his and your comments.
Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc
You would then be happy to suddenly buy into it just because Evans no longer involved.
It makes no sense. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:43 - Mar 15 with 1083 views | J2BLUE |
| Explain the logic please on 19:42 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
Not twisted that's how I take his and your comments.
Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc
You would then be happy to suddenly buy into it just because Evans no longer involved.
It makes no sense. |
Wow you're still doing it.
You keep knocking them straw men down. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:46 - Mar 15 with 1078 views | LeoMuff |
| Explain the logic please on 19:42 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
Not twisted that's how I take his and your comments.
Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc
You would then be happy to suddenly buy into it just because Evans no longer involved.
It makes no sense. |
Why would the club fold ? Evans owns the debt, he would simply have to sell.
It would also be highly damaging to him and his business image to see Portman rd empty the due to his mis management | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:46 - Mar 15 with 1073 views | jeera |
| Explain the logic please on 19:42 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
Not twisted that's how I take his and your comments.
Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc
You would then be happy to suddenly buy into it just because Evans no longer involved.
It makes no sense. |
"Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc"
This is the problem here.
This is pure conjecture, which you do have a habit of doing.
If you listen to J2, he is more precise with his comments but you shout over them with sweeping statements such as that. And as though they are factual.
Do you not see?
Take note of what people say and then respond to them according to what they actually say, and not to what you think they are saying. |  |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:47 - Mar 15 with 1071 views | HighgateBlue |
| Explain the logic please on 19:11 - Mar 15 by blueislander |
The proposed new owners have not stated, as far as I am aware, how much they would actually have invested in the club. |
Quite right. Indeed, they haven't even admitted to being the proposed new owners. None of us knows anything. That's a pretty poor foundation for any kind of opinion on whether this supposed takeover would be a good thing, a bad thing, or not even a thing. |  | | |
| Explain the logic please on 19:52 - Mar 15 with 1050 views | chrismakin |
| Explain the logic please on 19:46 - Mar 15 by jeera |
"Say everyone followed your lead and didnt support the club. It would end up in the conference. Club folds etc"
This is the problem here.
This is pure conjecture, which you do have a habit of doing.
If you listen to J2, he is more precise with his comments but you shout over them with sweeping statements such as that. And as though they are factual.
Do you not see?
Take note of what people say and then respond to them according to what they actually say, and not to what you think they are saying. |
I'm not saying they're factual. It's how I see those comments. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:55 - Mar 15 with 1035 views | J2BLUE |
| Explain the logic please on 19:52 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
I'm not saying they're factual. It's how I see those comments. |
My last comment...
You said:
Best I've read is
Short term pain like taking the club to conference would be the better than having Evans as it could then be rebuilt.
But you hadn't read it. You read something else, twisted it and then presented it as a fact so you could mock it.
My opinion of you has changed today. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:55 - Mar 15 with 1036 views | jeera |
| Explain the logic please on 19:52 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
I'm not saying they're factual. It's how I see those comments. |
Yes, but the trouble is you seem to see an awful lot of things and can't wait to tell everyone.
You can breath in between posts sometimes.
Maybe look at what someone is telling you before leaping to all sorts all the time.
You know, a bit of basic analysis rather than "what shall I write next?!!!!!!
You're like an excitable puppy. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 19:56 - Mar 15 with 1034 views | jas0999 |
If twenty thousand bought season tickets, Evans still wouldn’t invest in the playing squad. The bloke has form. |  | | |
| Explain the logic please on 20:00 - Mar 15 with 1010 views | chrismakin |
| Explain the logic please on 19:55 - Mar 15 by jeera |
Yes, but the trouble is you seem to see an awful lot of things and can't wait to tell everyone.
You can breath in between posts sometimes.
Maybe look at what someone is telling you before leaping to all sorts all the time.
You know, a bit of basic analysis rather than "what shall I write next?!!!!!!
You're like an excitable puppy. |
Fairplay
I just think for all his negatives there are a lot lot worse owners than Evans and I'd rather have Evans over a lot of them. I think people need to realise that sometimes
Of course I get where we are. It's not great but the mangers he has employed which overall were welcomed by majority of supporters ultimately failed and this isnt all down to Marcus. That's all I'm saying | |
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| Explain the logic please on 20:02 - Mar 15 with 1006 views | Fixed_It |
| Explain the logic please on 19:56 - Mar 15 by jas0999 |
If twenty thousand bought season tickets, Evans still wouldn’t invest in the playing squad. The bloke has form. |
As do you. Spend, spend, spend! | |
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| Explain the logic please on 20:03 - Mar 15 with 1002 views | J2BLUE |
| Explain the logic please on 20:00 - Mar 15 by chrismakin |
Fairplay
I just think for all his negatives there are a lot lot worse owners than Evans and I'd rather have Evans over a lot of them. I think people need to realise that sometimes
Of course I get where we are. It's not great but the mangers he has employed which overall were welcomed by majority of supporters ultimately failed and this isnt all down to Marcus. That's all I'm saying |
Of course there are worse owners. I made it clear he's not a bad man. I just refuse to be part of enabling him any longer. His time is up. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 20:08 - Mar 15 with 994 views | Guthrum |
| Explain the logic please on 19:40 - Mar 15 by LeoMuff |
Club needs investment, owner is worth nearly $1 billion. He wouldn’t even sanction the re investment of transfer fees from sales, that is the bare minimum to progress as a club.
The pitch is a field, the Portman road moss now infamous, contracts left to expire on players worth a fee , sports science appears pre historic , the list goes on.
He doesn’t listen to fans, managers, or act on our decline, maybe he will listen people expressing their thoughts via wallets and feet. |
While most of what you say is true, the 'owner is worth nearly $1 billion' bit is rather a red herring. That may be his paper wealth according to the Sunday Times Rich List, but it by no means equates to liquid cash he has spare to spend on an unprofitable venture (hobby, even) like a football club.
The vast bulk of that sum is simply that portion he (and his family) is believed to own of the assessed value of his companies. He's not going to start selling off bits of Marcus Evans Group to fund ITFC. |  |
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| Explain the logic please on 20:37 - Mar 15 with 962 views | LeoMuff |
| Explain the logic please on 20:08 - Mar 15 by Guthrum |
While most of what you say is true, the 'owner is worth nearly $1 billion' bit is rather a red herring. That may be his paper wealth according to the Sunday Times Rich List, but it by no means equates to liquid cash he has spare to spend on an unprofitable venture (hobby, even) like a football club.
The vast bulk of that sum is simply that portion he (and his family) is believed to own of the assessed value of his companies. He's not going to start selling off bits of Marcus Evans Group to fund ITFC. |
While it’s true a lot of the billion is not liquid cash, not re investing transfer fees received back into the playing squad for example is inexcusable, and it is safe to say he could afford it. | |
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| Explain the logic please on 22:29 - Mar 15 with 922 views | IP4_Blue |
| Explain the logic please on 18:56 - Mar 15 by RegencyBlue |
Evans is slowly killing the club.
My justification for not spending another penny at the club until he is gone is that it will eventually die under his inept regime. I didn’t cancel my season ticket lightly after well over 40 years but I wasn’t prepared to continue to pay for the privilege of watching him destroy us.
He needs to realise his time here is done and it’s time to go. If seeing season ticket sales reduce helps to gain his attention then it will be worth it.
The day he walks out of PR for the last time is the day I renew, not before! |
Agree with everything you say although reading posts before by Phil that Evans thinks change of manager and things will be rosy again. He just runs the club badly that’s why I was excited by the takeover I knew we wouldn’t be like Man City but was just hoping the club to be run better | | | |
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