| Johnson being a complete Johnson 08:05 - Apr 26 with 7253 views | tractordownsouth |
Obviously it’s the Mail so a rather big pinch of salt is required, but even for him this is a low point.
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| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:36 - Apr 26 with 676 views | brazil1982 |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 12:13 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
A very short term 'sugar rush' as what lies behind that is the running down of Covid grants and furlough money.
The selfish behaviour that saw so many voting for Brexit will be the same that gets upset when reality hits, as todays announcement reveal
"Sales of milk and cream to the EU are down an extraordinary 96 per cent — and chicken and beef by almost 80 per cent — because of Brexit, new figures show. Overall, the trade barriers erected in Boris Johnson’s deal have cost exporters more than £1.1bn since the start of the year, The Food and Drink Federation says."
"Dominic Goudie, the FDF’s head of international trade, said: “Exports to our biggest market, Ireland, have also dropped more than two thirds."
This kind of stuff takes a while to reach deep into the economy. And as with the failed, and now closed Pick for Britain, jobs vacated by Eastern Euroeans will not take up the slack. Those were jobs done by a highly mobile and flexible labour force who benefitted from low wages, when those wages translated into far more when shipped home. Not something that would be too attractive to those behind the so called 'red wall'.
And as farmers, fishermen, hauliers and exporters are discovering this is not a temporary 'blip' as with Covid - this is here to stay.
And the talk of the UK opening up again, will be for many, just one of the Job Centre doors opening up again. |
…and boy, are you enjoying it! |  | | |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:37 - Apr 26 with 692 views | HARRY10 |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:19 - Apr 26 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
I agree wholeheartedly Herbivore. I am not trying to make out that all is going well in all industries. My main point is that whatever ones views and yes, you and I think differently, you can find something somewhere in some newspaper or journal that will suit most arguments.
Hartlepool and the local elections will be a good guide to where things stand at the moment, particularly with these allegations flying around. |
Just because something is carried by the media does not mean it has worth or accuracy - something you seem unable to grasp.
Yours seems to be one of scrabbling around to find what suits, without any recourse to the slightest application of reason or validation,
And no, the by election and/or the council elections will not tell us much other than like the referendum there are an awful lot of folk out there who are basically.....essentially ignorant
Perhaps if they (and you) took time to understand how things are their ignorance might be lowered.... a bit.
Ignorance ?
"I didn't think brexit would mean what I was warned about " |  | | |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:40 - Apr 26 with 676 views | HARRY10 |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:36 - Apr 26 by brazil1982 |
…and boy, are you enjoying it! |
That is rather cretinous, even for you
Pointing out how the stupidity of others has fcked up so many lives, jobs and businesses can only be something that is enjoyed by a brexiter, gleeful over how they 'won'. | | | |
| Interestingly you've hit upon.... on 13:47 - Apr 26 with 661 views | GeoffSentence |
| Interestingly you've hit upon.... on 10:37 - Apr 26 by Bloots |
....one of my irrational dislikes.
David Attenborough.
There's something about him that I don't like, can't put my finger on it though.
Joanna Lumley is another one. |
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| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:53 - Apr 26 with 626 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:37 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
Just because something is carried by the media does not mean it has worth or accuracy - something you seem unable to grasp.
Yours seems to be one of scrabbling around to find what suits, without any recourse to the slightest application of reason or validation,
And no, the by election and/or the council elections will not tell us much other than like the referendum there are an awful lot of folk out there who are basically.....essentially ignorant
Perhaps if they (and you) took time to understand how things are their ignorance might be lowered.... a bit.
Ignorance ?
"I didn't think brexit would mean what I was warned about " |
Harry10 - This is not the first time that you suggest that those with different views to you, are ignorant. You even earlier today suggested that I do not sound that bright!
Humilty of course is not your strongest point is it?
I have said many times that I would say to any ones face anything that I post on here; Would you?
I have a different perspective to life than you do, oh and before you come out with any more abusive adjectives, I will pit my decency and help towards my fellow man/woman against yours at any time. | | | |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 14:07 - Apr 26 with 627 views | HARRY10 |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 13:53 - Apr 26 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
Harry10 - This is not the first time that you suggest that those with different views to you, are ignorant. You even earlier today suggested that I do not sound that bright!
Humilty of course is not your strongest point is it?
I have said many times that I would say to any ones face anything that I post on here; Would you?
I have a different perspective to life than you do, oh and before you come out with any more abusive adjectives, I will pit my decency and help towards my fellow man/woman against yours at any time. |
Blimey, he thinks I am Harry Hill.....'fight'
and failing to back any of his guff he resorts to some 'holier than thou' challenge
Ignorance is defined by a lack of knowledge, which in this case he has been amply shown. Not seeming to grasp that growth is measured by where you start from.
As to views, that is not what is in question. It is the using of inaccurate information to back them which is being challenged.... and exposed. | | | |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 14:10 - Apr 26 with 626 views | Herbivore |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 14:07 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
Blimey, he thinks I am Harry Hill.....'fight'
and failing to back any of his guff he resorts to some 'holier than thou' challenge
Ignorance is defined by a lack of knowledge, which in this case he has been amply shown. Not seeming to grasp that growth is measured by where you start from.
As to views, that is not what is in question. It is the using of inaccurate information to back them which is being challenged.... and exposed. |
You do come across as a bit of a bellend though to be fair. |  |
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| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 14:13 - Apr 26 with 616 views | HARRY10 |
| Nah, those that hero worship him..... on 14:10 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
You do come across as a bit of a bellend though to be fair. |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 14:25 - Apr 26 with 596 views | Herbivore |
Looks as though Gove has decided now is the time to make his move. Brexit is done, we look to be (fingers crossed) through the worst of the pandemic. Oust Johnson and blame all the sh!t on him, then take the credit for the recovery and any further deals with the EU that mitigate Brexit being a car crash. The problem with the Tories becoming a party that is now 100% based on self-serving opportunism is that a knife in the back is absolutely inevitable at some point. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 14:40 - Apr 26 with 581 views | HARRY10 |
Johnson said on Thursday that he would publish the texts between him and Dyson.
By Friday he changed his mind, and didn't
So given his long record of changing his mind and lying, what are the odds that he will admit he did use those words ?
What ever he sees as politically expedient I should imagine. | | | |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 14:44 - Apr 26 with 576 views | SpruceMoose |
As someone who lived in a location where bodies were indeed piled high in the street this time last year, it amazes me that a large number of UK voters will just shrug their shoulders at this remark and move along.
It's a disgusting comment which only a sociopath would make or excuse. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:00 - Apr 26 with 552 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 14:44 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
As someone who lived in a location where bodies were indeed piled high in the street this time last year, it amazes me that a large number of UK voters will just shrug their shoulders at this remark and move along.
It's a disgusting comment which only a sociopath would make or excuse. |
I suspect there will be very little shrugging of the shoulders as all too often it is throwaway comments like this that stick
Whether Marie Antoinette ever said the words 'let them eat cake' or if she did, they had a different meaning is not what sticks. It is because those words symbolise peoples perceptions of an indifferent and almost callous attitude of the French nobility at that time.
Much as well may be the case here - given how the clown avoided 5 COBRA meetings, took 12 days holiday when the pandemic was spreading fast, telling aides not to send him red boxes as he would not read them, and then when finally surfacing was more concerned with being popular by stating he had shaken hands with Covid patients.
How the second lockdown was delayed, how he again sought popularity by announcing Xmas would be 'restriction free', only to have to back track yet again.
As to him v Cummings, it really is Bungle (Rainbow) v Machiavelli. And this should be borne in mind as this ratchets up another level by the day
"But an ally of Mr Cummings said the PM's former chief adviser had taken a treasure trove of material with him when he left Downing Street last year, including audio recordings of discussions with senior ministers and officials.
'Dom has stuff on tape,' the ally said. 'They are mad to pick a fight with him because he will be able to back up a lot of his claims.
'He used to tell advisers to record things all the time — discussions with officials. He has also kept a lot of his correspondence.
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:03 - Apr 26 with 547 views | SpruceMoose |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:00 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
I suspect there will be very little shrugging of the shoulders as all too often it is throwaway comments like this that stick
Whether Marie Antoinette ever said the words 'let them eat cake' or if she did, they had a different meaning is not what sticks. It is because those words symbolise peoples perceptions of an indifferent and almost callous attitude of the French nobility at that time.
Much as well may be the case here - given how the clown avoided 5 COBRA meetings, took 12 days holiday when the pandemic was spreading fast, telling aides not to send him red boxes as he would not read them, and then when finally surfacing was more concerned with being popular by stating he had shaken hands with Covid patients.
How the second lockdown was delayed, how he again sought popularity by announcing Xmas would be 'restriction free', only to have to back track yet again.
As to him v Cummings, it really is Bungle (Rainbow) v Machiavelli. And this should be borne in mind as this ratchets up another level by the day
"But an ally of Mr Cummings said the PM's former chief adviser had taken a treasure trove of material with him when he left Downing Street last year, including audio recordings of discussions with senior ministers and officials.
'Dom has stuff on tape,' the ally said. 'They are mad to pick a fight with him because he will be able to back up a lot of his claims.
'He used to tell advisers to record things all the time — discussions with officials. He has also kept a lot of his correspondence.
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You have more faith in the UK electorate than I do!
"You know old Boris, he's always making silly comments like that! It's who is he! He didn't mean it. He'd be a right laugh down the pub I reckon.'" [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 15:04]
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:08 - Apr 26 with 535 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:03 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
You have more faith in the UK electorate than I do!
"You know old Boris, he's always making silly comments like that! It's who is he! He didn't mean it. He'd be a right laugh down the pub I reckon.'" [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 15:04]
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Yeah, it's not going to make the slightest difference unfortunately. We already know enough about Johnson to know what he is, this comment is only moderately surprising from him whereas it'd be a massive scandal from any other PM in my lifetime. When you're able to lower the bar of decency and integrity in public life more or less to the floor it seems people no longer judge you for being a thoroughly horrendous human being. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:09 - Apr 26 with 528 views | SpruceMoose |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:08 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
Yeah, it's not going to make the slightest difference unfortunately. We already know enough about Johnson to know what he is, this comment is only moderately surprising from him whereas it'd be a massive scandal from any other PM in my lifetime. When you're able to lower the bar of decency and integrity in public life more or less to the floor it seems people no longer judge you for being a thoroughly horrendous human being. |
" When you're able to lower the bar of decency and integrity in public life more or less to the floor it seems people no longer judge you for being a thoroughly horrendous human being."
In fact, people seem to love you all the more for it. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:12 - Apr 26 with 522 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:09 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
" When you're able to lower the bar of decency and integrity in public life more or less to the floor it seems people no longer judge you for being a thoroughly horrendous human being."
In fact, people seem to love you all the more for it. |
Indeed, it does rather seem that way. It was telling that the champions of our parliament being sovereign didn't bat an eyelid when Johnson illegally closed it down to try to undermine and circumvent the foundations of our democracy. In fact they cheered him on. The country has totally lost its head. We're making the US look sane right now. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:15 - Apr 26 with 516 views | SpruceMoose |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:12 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
Indeed, it does rather seem that way. It was telling that the champions of our parliament being sovereign didn't bat an eyelid when Johnson illegally closed it down to try to undermine and circumvent the foundations of our democracy. In fact they cheered him on. The country has totally lost its head. We're making the US look sane right now. |
I was pondering that the other day, that the UK is probably now right up there in the insane member of the western world stakes.
Luckily for you lot France is doing its best to catch up. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:37 - Apr 26 with 494 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:03 - Apr 26 by SpruceMoose |
You have more faith in the UK electorate than I do!
"You know old Boris, he's always making silly comments like that! It's who is he! He didn't mean it. He'd be a right laugh down the pub I reckon.'" [Post edited 26 Apr 2021 15:04]
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It is not so much faith, as a recognition of how they react.
Whether he made that remark or not, the litmus test will be whether people want to believe he did.
And to paraphrase Lady Bracknell 'to make one cockup may be regarded as a misfortune, to make so many looks like incompetence’ | | | |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:38 - Apr 26 with 492 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:37 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
It is not so much faith, as a recognition of how they react.
Whether he made that remark or not, the litmus test will be whether people want to believe he did.
And to paraphrase Lady Bracknell 'to make one cockup may be regarded as a misfortune, to make so many looks like incompetence’ |
Look at Johnson's history, it's littered with some pretty vile stuff. And people still vote for him. This won't make any real difference. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:48 - Apr 26 with 478 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:38 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
Look at Johnson's history, it's littered with some pretty vile stuff. And people still vote for him. This won't make any real difference. |
None of which have involved Parliamentary investigation.
What we have here is not the sum total, but barely the beginning.
We have seen the accusations, but we have not had the real 'meaty' stuff - where those accusations are backed by evidence.... cue Cummings and others.
And it is the constant denial that wounds - as with so many in Majors back to basics sleaze | | | |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:59 - Apr 26 with 462 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:48 - Apr 26 by HARRY10 |
None of which have involved Parliamentary investigation.
What we have here is not the sum total, but barely the beginning.
We have seen the accusations, but we have not had the real 'meaty' stuff - where those accusations are backed by evidence.... cue Cummings and others.
And it is the constant denial that wounds - as with so many in Majors back to basics sleaze |
The public don't care about parliamentary investigations, mate. | |
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| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 16:09 - Apr 26 with 456 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 15:59 - Apr 26 by Herbivore |
The public don't care about parliamentary investigations, mate. |
But they will be affected by what is revealed - as it then goes beyond accusation
Which is what the Garden Bridge, Accuri, Russian 'donations', renovations etc have only been so far.
As to who will shift his fat carcass our of number 10 we saw with Thatcher that when she was a hindrance more than a help it was not the public who booted her out. | | | |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 17:29 - Apr 26 with 424 views | Leaky |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 08:30 - Apr 26 by LeighOnSeaBlue |
The Mail is a hideous paper, but they do support the clown in number 10. So for them to go with this headline is quite interesting |
All news paper's are hideous that's, why I have never bought one since the phone hacking scandal. |  | | |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 17:45 - Apr 26 with 417 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson being a complete Johnson on 17:29 - Apr 26 by Leaky |
All news paper's are hideous that's, why I have never bought one since the phone hacking scandal. |
There are newspapers that aren't tabloids, mate. | |
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