How easy is it to track down online trolls? 14:31 - Jul 12 with 2351 views | MattinLondon | The actual subject of this post isn’t technically football but the context of it is so that’s why I have added it to the football threads. The players who missed penalties last night have all been subjected to racist abuse on Twitter etc. I’m think the vast amount of abuse has been from anonymous accounts where a fake handle has been used and linked to the users alternative email address. Social Media companies have previously stated that it will be very hard to ban such users. My question for any social media/ IT experts on here is - Is this actually the case? Or is it possible to track them down but it’ll simply take a lot of manpower? Obviously such trolls can also be guilty of others forms of hatred such as homophobia etc not necessarily connected to football. Thanks. |  | | |  |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:23 - Jul 12 with 471 views | chicoazul |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:21 - Jul 12 by BlueBadger | He had his employer's name in his profile. It's quite likely his employer saw it themselves. |
Yes. So what about telling their employers? |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:26 - Jul 12 with 465 views | jeera |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:23 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | Yes. So what about telling their employers? |
To be fair Chickers, I would want to know if someone who represented me and/or my company was behaving in that way. Not sure that answers your question though. |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:26 - Jul 12 with 464 views | Funge |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 15:42 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | I’m very uneasy about this. It’s a form of vigilantism. |
Hmmmm, I'm not sure, Chickers. I've very low tolerance for racism - its some fcking cowardly business, particularly on social media. If fools are stupid enough to run their racist mouths on SM, the larger part of me considers that they deserve all the subsequent consequences. That said, I acknowledge the point that wider vigilantism is not particularly helpful. Simple answer, I suppose, is to stay off SM and don't be a dick. |  | |  |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:28 - Jul 12 with 454 views | jeera |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:26 - Jul 12 by Funge | Hmmmm, I'm not sure, Chickers. I've very low tolerance for racism - its some fcking cowardly business, particularly on social media. If fools are stupid enough to run their racist mouths on SM, the larger part of me considers that they deserve all the subsequent consequences. That said, I acknowledge the point that wider vigilantism is not particularly helpful. Simple answer, I suppose, is to stay off SM and don't be a dick. |
Quite, if you don't want to be persecuted for being a racist then don't do racist things. |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:29 - Jul 12 with 451 views | homer_123 |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:26 - Jul 12 by Funge | Hmmmm, I'm not sure, Chickers. I've very low tolerance for racism - its some fcking cowardly business, particularly on social media. If fools are stupid enough to run their racist mouths on SM, the larger part of me considers that they deserve all the subsequent consequences. That said, I acknowledge the point that wider vigilantism is not particularly helpful. Simple answer, I suppose, is to stay off SM and don't be a dick. |
Or, even simpler than that - don't be a racist c*ck? |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:30 - Jul 12 with 453 views | BlueBadger |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:23 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | Yes. So what about telling their employers? |
You've never complained about bad service in a restaurant, poor care for your hospitalised relatives or given a bad review to a lazy and incompetent builder? |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:32 - Jul 12 with 444 views | itfcjoe |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:23 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | Yes. So what about telling their employers? |
If that was one of my employees I'd want to know - it's not acceptable, we have BAME people on our workforce and why should they have to work alongside someone with those views? How could I let someone with those views go into the house of BAME clients we have - the ultimate trust being given to someone, in my name, when they hold those views about them |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:36 - Jul 12 with 425 views | homer_123 |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:30 - Jul 12 by BlueBadger | You've never complained about bad service in a restaurant, poor care for your hospitalised relatives or given a bad review to a lazy and incompetent builder? |
Why are you bringing Joe into this? |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:42 - Jul 12 with 416 views | BloomBlue |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:11 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | What about telling their employers? |
Lots of employers now have rules built into employees contracts about what the employee can post on social media, if they posts something inappropriate the employer should be contacted and the employee sacked. |  | |  |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:45 - Jul 12 with 403 views | chicoazul | Everyone apart from Badger who appears to be conflating racism with bad restaurant service has made good and interesting points on this page so far. But what if ANTIFA or whoever gets it wrong? What if there are two dudes with the same name who look similar and so forth? I think calling out racism is a good and necessary thing, but to the police, and let them deal with it. |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:46 - Jul 12 with 397 views | footers |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:42 - Jul 12 by BloomBlue | Lots of employers now have rules built into employees contracts about what the employee can post on social media, if they posts something inappropriate the employer should be contacted and the employee sacked. |
That is true. We inserted a clause into ours years ago after one of our more, erm, passionate analysts had a diference of opinion with a client on Twiter and called him a cõont. He no longer works for us. |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:59 - Jul 12 with 374 views | LankHenners |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 16:45 - Jul 12 by chicoazul | Everyone apart from Badger who appears to be conflating racism with bad restaurant service has made good and interesting points on this page so far. But what if ANTIFA or whoever gets it wrong? What if there are two dudes with the same name who look similar and so forth? I think calling out racism is a good and necessary thing, but to the police, and let them deal with it. |
Yes worth remembering there have been some pretty bad cases of the internet trying to be helpful and well meaning but getting it very very wrong when it comes to identifying a wrong'un which can ruin an innocent person's life. As Joe has pointed out it can get a bit daft (and nasty) when someone is publicly ridiculed for something they said or did when they were a teenager or whatever which is taking it too far but with stuff like this on balance it's fair to go in with a fairly strong tackle. Though by that I mean things like mass reporting of any racism to the appropriate places (though again I can understand why people take things into their own hands given some social media companies' historically flimsy response to these instances). |  |
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How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 18:07 - Jul 12 with 336 views | bluejacko |
How easy is it to track down online trolls? on 15:14 - Jul 12 by BlueBadger | Some would argue that soldiers and coppers ARE professional thugs... *walks away whistling* |
Are these the thugs that were drafted in to help the NHS then? Never mind I suppose with your superior attitude you wouldn’t have lowered yourself to acknowledge them would you.🙄 |  | |  |
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