| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. 08:41 - Aug 5 with 4106 views | unstableblue |
…. Get a number?? |  |
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| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 17:01 - Aug 5 with 1113 views | wkj |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 16:56 - Aug 5 by Mediocre_Quick |
Our better players? Chaplin, Burns, Evans, Fraser, y'know, players I mentioned in an earlier point that you ignored, who can turn a game on its head in seconds with a bit of magic
Again, you're living in an academy product bias world, and the stats for each of those players over the last 2/3 seasons speak for themselves compared to Downes |
Downes is a solid midfielder who can be good with holding up the ball in the middle and getting the interceptions in. This is something we're in short supply of right now. He's a good player and would be one of the few from last year who would be a credit to the squad.
If he finds a championship suitor before the end of the window, it won't be undeserved. |  |
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| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 17:13 - Aug 5 with 1088 views | Mediocre_Quick |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 16:56 - Aug 5 by Mediocre_Quick |
Our better players? Chaplin, Burns, Evans, Fraser, y'know, players I mentioned in an earlier point that you ignored, who can turn a game on its head in seconds with a bit of magic
Again, you're living in an academy product bias world, and the stats for each of those players over the last 2/3 seasons speak for themselves compared to Downes |
And I've just realised Keanish, it wasn't you that I made that point to, apologies good sir |  | | |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 18:07 - Aug 5 with 1041 views | Keaneish |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 16:56 - Aug 5 by Mediocre_Quick |
Our better players? Chaplin, Burns, Evans, Fraser, y'know, players I mentioned in an earlier point that you ignored, who can turn a game on its head in seconds with a bit of magic
Again, you're living in an academy product bias world, and the stats for each of those players over the last 2/3 seasons speak for themselves compared to Downes |
I didn’t ignore it, I just don’t agree with it as it’s very sinplistic. Yeah hope Evans does step up to the plate and fill Downes shoes and more but yet to be seen. Fraser and Burns aren’t at the same level as Downes, Chaplin, maybe.
It was only 18 - 12 months ago ex England Manager Hodgson was in for Downes in a Prem move, I don’t recall any of the others listed being touted at that level. Too many short memories amongst football fans in my view. [Post edited 5 Aug 2021 19:34]
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| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 18:18 - Aug 5 with 1023 views | J2BLUE |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 11:05 - Aug 5 by Mediocre_Quick |
Don't get the Downes worship on here at all, who cares if he gets a number or not? He's clearly shown he doesn't want to stay and has done anything to fight for his place back in the first team, just let him go and stop holding on just because he's an academy product, if anything, focus on the newer lads that are coming through and making an impression and start focusing on the bright future this club now has,
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Agree we need to forget about him but people are reacting this way because it seems such an obvious solution. We need a CM and we would all be pretty excited if we got someone of his quality in the door.
It seems to make sense for everyone. We don't need to take a cut price fee, Downes will get a better move with a season or two (if we go up) of proving himself and Cook would get a high class CM to add to an exciting squad.
Instead it seems destined to end in a way that doesn't really suit anyone. Will we even get seven figures guaranteed? I expect most of any fee to be add ons.
Phil or Joe said too much water under the bridge. That's how it feels. Logically it shouldn't end this way but it will. |  |
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| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 18:32 - Aug 5 with 1014 views | JDB23 |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 13:35 - Aug 5 by itfcjoe |
But when 2 young English midfielders of a similar age hit the market in the same summer and one ends up with the team that finished 9th in the 2nd tier for a much bigger deal than one who ends up signing for a team in the 3rd tier it's clear which one is more highly thought of by the football industry.
Obviously there are a million factors that go into things - but for age and experience profiles they are pretty comparable, nationality, position, international honours etc then it's a fairly easy conclusion to draw that Dozzell is the better player currently
I'm looking forward to seeing Harper play, and think he'll be a really good signing and is one who could really hit the heights - and think move for Dozzell was best for all parties - but if any of the players we've signed were offered the sort of contract QPR could, then they would be there not here. |
We (Championship) bought Jackson for nearly £2m at basically the exact same time Peterborough (L1) bought Toney for less than half that. Both English strikers around the same age on the market at the same time. Easy conclusion to say Jackson is the better player then!
Obviously I get where you are coming from but it's not that simple. |  | | |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 18:49 - Aug 5 with 984 views | bobbyramsey |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 14:43 - Aug 5 by blaggers |
Is he? Based on what evidence? 3 career goals, 1 assist, 65% successful tackle rate...hardly stellar. |
......and a shi!!y attitude to boot..... |  | | |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 19:33 - Aug 5 with 939 views | itfcjoe |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 18:32 - Aug 5 by JDB23 |
We (Championship) bought Jackson for nearly £2m at basically the exact same time Peterborough (L1) bought Toney for less than half that. Both English strikers around the same age on the market at the same time. Easy conclusion to say Jackson is the better player then!
Obviously I get where you are coming from but it's not that simple. |
But Peterborough agreed that deal for Jackson as well and we nipped in at the last minute - so bad example really as they thought he was worth £1.6m too |  |
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| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 00:46 - Aug 6 with 858 views | JDB23 |
| When are the squad numbers out?? And will Downes…. on 19:33 - Aug 5 by itfcjoe |
But Peterborough agreed that deal for Jackson as well and we nipped in at the last minute - so bad example really as they thought he was worth £1.6m too |
Not sure how that makes it a bad example, if anything it just furthers the point that clubs get transfers wrong all the time and bigger fee/higher club doesn't automatically equal better player. [Post edited 6 Aug 2021 0:46]
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