| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? 11:49 - Aug 24 with 1104 views | unstableblue |
We've all lost count of the must win games under the Hurst and Lambert debacle...
This feels EVEN bigger in my mind - against a back drop of typically, over a decade, of failing on the big occasion, falling at the last
The difference is that this time round it feels like there is actually is a foundation, evidence of progress and quality in the squad to build from
WIN and the fan base, Cook, the players and the project get a massive boost
We then get further time to hone the system, get the squad fully fit, learn the patterns
LOSE, and the clamour around Cook's position increases, pressure and a bad vide sweeps through the club.
I'll be there, looking forward to it, expecting Wimbledon to unsettle us early, and expecting the much needed WIN |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:01 - Aug 24 with 1084 views | Herbivore |
Aside from Fishers, who is looking for bites, there really isn't any clamour around Cook's position. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from to be honest.
I really don't see any game at this stage of the season as being must win. It's a game we should win and if we don't win it that will be massively disappointing but I don't think this one game is season defining and I'm not sure putting that much on it is very helpful. [Post edited 24 Aug 2021 12:32]
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:10 - Aug 24 with 1055 views | DanTheMan |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:01 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
Aside from Fishers, who is looking for bites, there really isn't any clamour around Cook's position. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from to be honest.
I really don't see any game at this stage of the season as being must win. It's a game we should win and if we don't win it that will be massively disappointing but I don't think this one game is season defining and I'm not sure putting that much on it is very helpful. [Post edited 24 Aug 2021 12:32]
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Agreed.
It would be very much helpful for supporter morale and I imagine the team's morale. |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:13 - Aug 24 with 1042 views | unstableblue |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:01 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
Aside from Fishers, who is looking for bites, there really isn't any clamour around Cook's position. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from to be honest.
I really don't see any game at this stage of the season as being must win. It's a game we should win and if we don't win it that will be massively disappointing but I don't think this one game is season defining and I'm not sure putting that much on it is very helpful. [Post edited 24 Aug 2021 12:32]
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Take a look on twitter, here and Radio Suffolk and the questioning of Cook's position is pretty significant.
I agree in the sober light of day, we could manage another draw and further signs of progress on the pitch. BUT Herbivore, we can't keep delaying, 10 points off the top two, teams like Sheff Weds, Wycombe, Sunderland, Wigan, Pompey already getting into a stride.
Would Wycombe or Bolton then become must wins? much harder games in theory.
How soon is now? We've got to get this show on the road. | |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:35 - Aug 24 with 981 views | Herbivore |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:13 - Aug 24 by unstableblue |
Take a look on twitter, here and Radio Suffolk and the questioning of Cook's position is pretty significant.
I agree in the sober light of day, we could manage another draw and further signs of progress on the pitch. BUT Herbivore, we can't keep delaying, 10 points off the top two, teams like Sheff Weds, Wycombe, Sunderland, Wigan, Pompey already getting into a stride.
Would Wycombe or Bolton then become must wins? much harder games in theory.
How soon is now? We've got to get this show on the road. |
I avoid ITFC twitter and don't listen to Radio Suffolk as I'm not local. However, on here I'm really not seeing much questioning of Cook's position at all. Stuart Watson made a similar point to one I've been making consistently after the MK Dons game: there's more moaning about moaning than there is actual moaning.
Even a 10 point gap at this stage of the season isn't much to worry about, there's 40+ games left to play. A win would be very welcome, we need to start racking up the points, but a must win game? I'm not having it. | |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:42 - Aug 24 with 950 views | FBI |
I imagine the players/staff would be a lot happpier to get a win under their belts (waistbands?), as will the fanbase. Apart from the swivel-eyed loons, nobody's calling for PC's head and we knew it wouldn't be instant, but that doesn't mean to say that a win won't settle our collective qualms. |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:47 - Aug 24 with 937 views | Garv |
Very rarely is a game 'must win', so it isn't in my book. Unless it's just so the pressure is lifted on Cook, but there'll still be pressure either way. We could lose the next two after than that and he'll be back where he is now, or worse. |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 13:19 - Aug 24 with 879 views | jayessess |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:01 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
Aside from Fishers, who is looking for bites, there really isn't any clamour around Cook's position. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from to be honest.
I really don't see any game at this stage of the season as being must win. It's a game we should win and if we don't win it that will be massively disappointing but I don't think this one game is season defining and I'm not sure putting that much on it is very helpful. [Post edited 24 Aug 2021 12:32]
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It certainly isn't "must win" but... it will be our best opportunity to clamber out of this rut for quite some time, arguably until October. Things could get very messy very quickly if we end August with just 2-3 points on the board. |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 13:19 - Aug 24 with 879 views | unstableblue |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:47 - Aug 24 by Garv |
Very rarely is a game 'must win', so it isn't in my book. Unless it's just so the pressure is lifted on Cook, but there'll still be pressure either way. We could lose the next two after than that and he'll be back where he is now, or worse. |
Loving you and Herbivore's point of view, and I sort of agree... and definitely agree if we then lose two.. we are back to square one
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BUT.... football is a confidence game, form comes from form... and failing to win feels like kicking the can down the road... as a club and as a team, we need start GRABBING the momentum... | |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 13:42 - Aug 24 with 834 views | Herbivore |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 13:19 - Aug 24 by unstableblue |
Loving you and Herbivore's point of view, and I sort of agree... and definitely agree if we then lose two.. we are back to square one
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BUT.... football is a confidence game, form comes from form... and failing to win feels like kicking the can down the road... as a club and as a team, we need start GRABBING the momentum... |
We do, but if we lose to Wimbledon and then win 8 on the bounce and find ourselves in the top 6 then the Wimbledon game won't have mattered at all. For me that means it can't really have been a must win game. If we were playing Wimbledon in our last game of the season and needed a win to guarantee promotion then that would be a must win game, but playing them in August in our fifth game of the season? Nah bruv. | |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 14:28 - Aug 24 with 773 views | The_Realist_09 |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 13:42 - Aug 24 by Herbivore |
We do, but if we lose to Wimbledon and then win 8 on the bounce and find ourselves in the top 6 then the Wimbledon game won't have mattered at all. For me that means it can't really have been a must win game. If we were playing Wimbledon in our last game of the season and needed a win to guarantee promotion then that would be a must win game, but playing them in August in our fifth game of the season? Nah bruv. |
These are strange leagues aren't they. Matches seem to be much closer than at the top level leading to inconsistency for most. I remembered my mate telling me about Bolton last year in league 2 so I just checked.
They were 17th at the half way point of the season and went on a ridiculous run to finish 3rd.
Saying that, I'd much rather us get up and running now! But it's far from over. |  | | |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 14:55 - Aug 24 with 740 views | Herbivore |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 14:28 - Aug 24 by The_Realist_09 |
These are strange leagues aren't they. Matches seem to be much closer than at the top level leading to inconsistency for most. I remembered my mate telling me about Bolton last year in league 2 so I just checked.
They were 17th at the half way point of the season and went on a ridiculous run to finish 3rd.
Saying that, I'd much rather us get up and running now! But it's far from over. |
The gap between top and bottom is definitely narrower in this league. There is a gap, but it's not like in the Prem where if a Norwich beat a Man City it's huge news. That does mean that the league tends to be tighter and one upshot of that is that a good run of form can move you up the table very, very quickly. It would do us the world of good to get 3 points in the bag as soon as possible but we really don't need to be panicking at this point. There's so much football left to be played. | |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 16:18 - Aug 24 with 672 views | itfcjoe |
| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 12:13 - Aug 24 by unstableblue |
Take a look on twitter, here and Radio Suffolk and the questioning of Cook's position is pretty significant.
I agree in the sober light of day, we could manage another draw and further signs of progress on the pitch. BUT Herbivore, we can't keep delaying, 10 points off the top two, teams like Sheff Weds, Wycombe, Sunderland, Wigan, Pompey already getting into a stride.
Would Wycombe or Bolton then become must wins? much harder games in theory.
How soon is now? We've got to get this show on the road. |
For every post genuinely questioning Cooks position there are 25 posts projecting that view on to others
Saturday important, as are all games - but mostly to ensure positive momentum isn’t lost |  |
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| So in the Pantheon of MUST WIN games.... where does this my blue collective? on 18:41 - Aug 24 with 586 views | istanblue |
Let's put this in context for a second. We're playing AFC Wimbledon at home. A nervy 1-0 for example isn't going to settle nerves or convince any doubters. Even an assured win won't do that. Start putting winning runs together and beating the big teams and then fans will be 100% behind Cook and the team. |  | | |
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