| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… 11:21 - Sep 4 with 10072 views | unstableblue |
… I was reviewing the 10th (tenth) page of bile and unanimous slating of Mark Ashton on ‘The Only Team in Bristol’ forum. The huge criticism of his tenure at Ashton Gate.
They’ve picked up our reaction on TWTD to their views -
Perhaps our fans calling them ‘knuckle staggers’ was unwise! - But actually there seems good feeling towards ITFC as a club.
A summary of the factors to which they despise Ashton are: took over control and footballing matters, manager selection based on his imperious role, hung out the manager he’d brought in to dry once found to be flawed, allowed an appalling injury situation to develop and an enquiry he instigated was a joke (some of that fitness team are now here), they find Ashton smarmy, PRish.., etc etc
They obviously think he will be a disaster here, and cast aspersions on our 19 player influx he has orchestrated. Slightly ignoring revenue and wage bill benefits of outgoing players!!
But looking on the positives and calling out some of the views they are missing, just a couple of thoughts from me:
- Cook has it seems identified all the players brought in, I think there is no suggestion that Ashton suggested any players - he just executed the transfers. Ashton is not acting as a pseudo manager as much as Bristol City fans suggest
- Cook is in charge of the footballing side of the football operation;
I don’t think Cook would accept direct interference from Ashton
- Ashton does not just have a non footballing owner above him - O’Leary is his governance and control; and The Three Lions especially our Turkish investor are quite savvy in running a football club and will be providing necessary oversight
- if we get the wins we so desperately need I am expecting Ashton to turn to non footballing operations issues such as ground, ticketing, PA etc, where his work was positively received at Bristol
What do you think?
Certainly Ashtons US style motivational approach and management system concept has grated the Bristol fans… and maybe a few players and fans will not buy in… but let’s repeat a key point WE HAD MILNE AND CLEGG
I am concerned about the unanimous negativity, no smoke without fire, but I DO think Ashton is operating in a different set-up and environment.
Now let’s get that WIN so that Cook is left to it, and Ashton, OLeary and the Three Lions can focus on the longer game. |  |
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:19 - Sep 7 with 1343 views | FBI |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:05 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
Just remember, there are no such things as problems, just opportunities. As long as you juxtapose your interpersonal skills with working at pace while shooting for the moon in a results orientated environment, you’ll be fine.
Aaaargh! |
My old boss used to say "...my challenge to you is..." at every opportunity. By dropping the phrase into any given meeting when she wasn't there it was possible to derail the session as we all started laughing. [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 14:19]
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:23 - Sep 7 with 1322 views | Churchman |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:19 - Sep 7 by FBI |
My old boss used to say "...my challenge to you is..." at every opportunity. By dropping the phrase into any given meeting when she wasn't there it was possible to derail the session as we all started laughing. [Post edited 7 Sep 2021 14:19]
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The words ‘leaning opportunity’ were the words of doom. If somebody said that it meant you were about to get lumbered with a really cr@p task others had quickly avoided. |  | | |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:33 - Sep 7 with 1301 views | FBI |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:23 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
The words ‘leaning opportunity’ were the words of doom. If somebody said that it meant you were about to get lumbered with a really cr@p task others had quickly avoided. |
Heheh. We called it a 'development opportunity'. | |
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 03:44 - Sep 8 with 1202 views | shamboy |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:33 - Sep 7 by FBI |
Heheh. We called it a 'development opportunity'. |
Sounds like a stretch assignment! Ashton must surely have a limited supply of this Brentisms, but much fun to come before he exhausts his supply. |  | | |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 08:50 - Sep 8 with 1129 views | Churchman |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 03:44 - Sep 8 by shamboy |
Sounds like a stretch assignment! Ashton must surely have a limited supply of this Brentisms, but much fun to come before he exhausts his supply. |
By not reinventing the wheel and gaining peoples buy in on best practice, despite being time short, Ashton should be able to get traction on the club exceeding expectations. The key thing is to eat the elephant in bite size chunks. Boiling the ocean is not an option. | | | |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 10:50 - Sep 8 with 1083 views | FBI |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 08:50 - Sep 8 by Churchman |
By not reinventing the wheel and gaining peoples buy in on best practice, despite being time short, Ashton should be able to get traction on the club exceeding expectations. The key thing is to eat the elephant in bite size chunks. Boiling the ocean is not an option. |
I presume Ashton did a SWOT and PESTLE analysis in order to drill down into the key strategic wins going forward. So long as his objectives are SMART I'll be happy. | |
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 11:27 - Sep 8 with 1049 views | Churchman |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 10:50 - Sep 8 by FBI |
I presume Ashton did a SWOT and PESTLE analysis in order to drill down into the key strategic wins going forward. So long as his objectives are SMART I'll be happy. |
PESTLE should provide a macro picture going forward to enable staging of projected scaleable outcomes. This should produce a win win situation, providing everyone buys in and is kept in the loop.
Ashton setting SMART objectives should help the process of continuous improvement. [Post edited 8 Sep 2021 11:39]
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 11:40 - Sep 8 with 1030 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I'm going to be honest, I've never really got the 'opened a can of worms' analogy.
I opened a can of worms once, the worms didn't do much, maybe moved around a little, but generally, they just lay there. It certainly wasn't the level of chaos that I was led to believe would be unleashed. |  |
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 13:59 - Sep 8 with 975 views | Herbivore |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:23 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
The words ‘leaning opportunity’ were the words of doom. If somebody said that it meant you were about to get lumbered with a really cr@p task others had quickly avoided. |
Who doesn't enjoy a good lean every now and then? |  |
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| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:07 - Sep 8 with 955 views | Churchman |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 13:59 - Sep 8 by Herbivore |
Who doesn't enjoy a good lean every now and then? |
A leaning is better than a learning.
I need new glasses. | | | |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:11 - Sep 8 with 944 views | Herbivore |
| Without wanting to open the can of worms again that is Bristol fans forum… on 14:07 - Sep 8 by Churchman |
A leaning is better than a learning.
I need new glasses. |
Your need for new glasses is one of your key learnings from this episode. | |
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